Thank you for finally agreeing that gentiles aren’t commanded to keep the sabbath.
The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?
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We gentile are not obligated to keep the Mosaic Civil ..& Ceremonial Laws, they were nailed to the cross.
Please ! Go finish re-reading both of those post ! It's very well explained there ..
Ah ! Now we are getting somewhere ! You like to be able to be selfish, to be able to commit adultery, covetousness, lying , etc..
So you misinterpret God's Word, to suit & enable your "Self-righteousness" rather than having Jesus' Righteousness of obedience.
Nuf sed ! Almost Sabbath.. Gotta Go ! Blessing Folk !
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There is no need to reread anything. Maybe you should just reread:
“Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.”
Colossians 2:16-17 ESV
Don't put words in my mouth .. I said We ALL are obligated to keep ALL 10 Commandments ... Period (idiot !
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Self righteousness?Ah ! Now we are getting somewhere ! You like to be able to be selfish, to be able to commit adultery, covetousness, lying , etc..
So you misinterpret God's Word, to suit & enable your "Self-righteousness" rather than having Jesus' Righteousness of obedience.
Nuf sed ! Almost Sabbath.. Gotta Go ! Blessing Folk !
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yea ok. I’m a worthless sinner with zero hope without Jesus. I have no problem admitting that. His Spirit is the only good inside me. The self righteous ones are the ones that believe they keep the whole law while looking down on others. Look in the mirror if you want to see what that looks like. The self righteous ones are the ones that are trying to save themselves through the law.
You said I was right that scripture never states that gentiles are to keep the sabbath. Did you not?
Oh and it’s not very loving to call people idiots even if you make the text smaller.Don't put words in my mouth .. I said We ALL are obligated to keep ALL 10 Commandments ... Period (idiot !
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Oh? You don't have The letter of White to the Misinformed? I believe you can find info on that judgement in there, chapter 231: 1-0, in 'The Book of Shadows, Bizarre Demonic Encounters mistaken for Angels and Torture for Children (with a focus on little girls)'
The foreward was written by the imp who used to sit on her shoulders and whisper false teaching into her receptive ears.
Trust me. It's allllllll in there. Along with how to curse people who find you to be not right between the ears and how to join hands with others you have deceived and pray down the wrath of God on pesky Bible believing Christians.
Right. In this thread mr op, we have you replacing Jesus with the 10 commandments.
Happy Sabbath to all
But happy Sabbath when it comes to you. Where ever you live.
God's sanctified hours
Blessed rest.
Thank God for the holy Sabbath Day.
But happy Sabbath when it comes to you. Where ever you live.
God's sanctified hours
Blessed rest.
Thank God for the holy Sabbath Day.
Ah ! Now we are getting somewhere ! You like to be able to be selfish, to be able to commit adultery, covetousness, lying , etc..
So you misinterpret God's Word, to suit & enable your "Self-righteousness" rather than having Jesus' Righteousness of obedience.
Nuf sed ! Almost Sabbath.. Gotta Go ! Blessing Folk !
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Sabbath seems to really bring out the best in some SDA people.
Jesus was the center of the new Testament and was the center of the Old Testament. And should be the center of of lives today.
No one has taken away from this fact by encouraging the 10 commandments.
To disobey Jesus and not follow His example you are making Jesus secondary to your own lusts and desires.
To put Jesus first is to obey and do his will.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1Jn 2:3-4
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
your argument sounds confident, but it rests on a misunderstanding of what the Bible is actually doing in Genesis. The list being quoted isn’t even from the text of the King James Version—it’s a later rabbinic summary often called the Noahide laws. When you go back and read Genesis 8–9 itself, the covenant God makes with Noah contains only a few specific instructions: be fruitful and multiply, do not eat blood, and do not shed human blood. That’s all. So yes, the Sabbath isn’t mentioned there—but neither is idolatry, adultery, honoring parents, or most of what anyone would consider basic moral law. The passage was never intended to be a complete list of all divine commandments.
The bigger issue is that the Sabbath doesn’t start with Noah—or with Israel. It begins at creation. Genesis 2:2–3 says God rested on the seventh day, blessed it, and sanctified it. That happens before there is any nation, before sin spreads across humanity, and long before the flood. Nothing in the text limits that act to one group of people. It’s presented as part of the created order itself.
Scripture also makes it clear that God’s commands existed before they were written down at Sinai. God says that Abraham “obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws” (Genesis 26:5). That’s well before the Ten Commandments were formally given. And even more directly, in Exodus 16—before Sinai—God rebukes Israel for not keeping His commandments and specifically refers to the Sabbath as something He had already given them. So the idea that the Sabbath suddenly appeared later doesn’t match the flow of the text.
What’s really happening in Genesis 9 is that God is establishing a covenant focused on preserving life and stabilizing the world after the flood. It’s selective, not exhaustive. It highlights a few foundational principles for a reset humanity, not the entire moral framework God had already established. So arguing that a command doesn’t exist just because it isn’t repeated there doesn’t work. By that same reasoning, you’d have to deny the existence of several other moral laws that clearly predate Sinai.
In the end, the claim “there’s no Sabbath in Noah, therefore no early Sabbath” only works if you isolate one passage and ignore the rest of Scripture. But when you read the whole biblical narrative, the Sabbath is rooted in creation, known before Sinai, and not dependent on whether it gets repeated in the covenant with Noah.
See inquisitor the power of scripture?
Exactly.
All those animal sacrifices were pointing to Jesus.
PLease define this new covenant if you can please provide scripture as I always do. try to convince me I will to listen carefully.
You quoted Isaiah 56 and which covenant is being spoken of?
Isaiah 56:6-7
...And holds fast My covenant;
Even those I will bring to My holy mountain
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will
be acceptable on My altar.
Unless your making offerings and sacrificing in that old covenant, then your not listening
to what the Lord said.
That is certainly the old covenant that God made with the nation of Israel.
Exodus 19:5-6
Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be My own possession
among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine; and you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.
These are the words that you shall speak to the sons of Israel.
Now read Isaiah 56:7 carefully.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on My altar.
To be able to join that old covenant at Mt Sinai a Gentile must be circumcised and be living in the
land of Israel. You can't use Isaiah 56 when your talking about the new covenant in the New Testament.
Gentiles in Rome and Egypt were not in that old covenant.
I don't believe you quoted Isaiah 56 to support Ellen's idea that Gentiles were under the law.
The text explicitly states that God made that old covenant with Israel only.
Don't tell me that I said this because the scripture directly states what I said.
You have nothing to support your wild claim, nothing in the O.T.
Prove it from the scripture.
The following verses explain that the Gentiles never knew God or the covenants, never had the law
or the promised land of Israel.
Romans 9:4-5
Who are Israelites, to whom belongs the adoption as sons, and the glory and the covenants and
the giving of the Law and the temple service and the promises, whose are the fathers, and from
whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.
Your claiming that the Gentiles had the law and the covenants which they did not.