The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[JimiSurvivor]

You are not understanding things correctly.
The keeping of the law, the repentance comes as a natural result of your love for God.

Because you love God, you repent and turn from your evil ways..

When you are filled with the Spirit of God your delight is in obedience to the laws of God.

We obey the law because we are saved by grace and we obey by claiming the promises by faith, and we do this because of what Jesus done for us.

A Love response to God's great Love.

No one starts out loving God. In fact, the Bible teaches that in our natural (unconverted) state we completely at odds with Him (although most people are not aware of this). Therefore, before God can save us we must first be convinced that we are sinners who need saving. We begin to love Him only after we are forgiven of our sins.

In the Bible, this process is called CONVICTION.
8 And when He (the Holy Spirit) comes, He will CONVICT the world in regard to SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS and JUDGEMENT:
9 in regard to sin, because they do not believe in Me;…(John 16:8-9)
The word conviction is from the Greek word elégxō [ἐλέγχω]– which means properly, to convince with solid, compelling evidence,
especially to expose or prove WRONG. The same word is used in Matthew 18:15 when we are told to first show an errant brother his FAULT in private before making it known to others.

After we are convinced that we are sinners who cannot save ourselves we must take the radical step of giving the control of our souls to Jesus (personally). We cannot obtain life by following the commandments. As Jesus Himself told the religious people of His time:
39 You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse TO COME TO ME to have life.
(John 5:39-40)
The Savior said the same thing another way: 24 Then Jesus told His disciples, “If ANYONE wants to COME AFTER ME [following Him as sheep follow their Shepherd], he must deny HIMSELF and TAKE UP HIS CROSS and FOLLOW ME . 25 For whoever wants to save his life {his "soul") will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
(Matthew 16:24-25)

 

[Roger316]

Jimi, Yes repentance is expected of us Jesus started his Ministry with "repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand"

You are correct in what you wrote about some of the items of the law of Moses that pointed to Christ ( the shadow) but the COVENANT is the TEN COMMANDMENTS, ( put in our hearts and minds = NEW COVENANT) you omitted the most important part of Jer 31, verse 33!

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

you cannot escape it either you accept it and Live, Jesus said so clearly. Will you listen to what Christ said ( the narrow path that leads to eternal life) or will you ignore him? (The narrow path that leads to spiritual death?)

Stop Fighting what Jesus said and Listen to him!!!

All authority in Heaven and earth was given to him!

It is BY HIS WORDS that we all shall be judged!

The Ten Commandments are NOT the covenant. The death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is the covenant.

During the Passover meal, Jesus held up the wine and said, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood." Luke 22:20 1 Corinthians 11:25 Hebrews 9:15, 12:24.

 

[vassal]

No one starts out loving God. In fact, the Bible teaches that in our natural (unconverted) state we completely at odds with Him (although most people are not aware of this). Therefore, before God can save us we must first be convinced that we are sinners who need saving. We begin to love Him only after we are forgiven of our sins.

In the Bible, this process is called CONVICTION.
8 And when He (the Holy Spirit) comes, He will CONVICT the world in regard to SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS and JUDGEMENT:
9 in regard to sin, because they do not believe in Me;…(John 16:8-9)
The word conviction is from the Greek word elégxō [ἐλέγχω]– which means properly, to convince with solid, compelling evidence,
especially to expose or prove WRONG. The same word is used in Matthew 18:15 when we are told to first show an errant brother his FAULT in private before making it known to others.

After we are convinced that we are sinners who cannot save ourselves we must take the radical step of giving the control of our souls to Jesus (personally). We cannot obtain life by following the commandments. As Jesus Himself told the religious people of His time:
39 You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse TO COME TO ME to have life.
(John 5:39-40)
The Savior said the same thing another way: 24 Then Jesus told His disciples, “If ANYONE wants to COME AFTER ME [following Him as sheep follow their Shepherd], he must deny HIMSELF and TAKE UP HIS CROSS and FOLLOW ME . 25 For whoever wants to save his life {his "soul") will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
(Matthew 16:24-25)

a HUGE blunder you wrote here first GOD gives us a choice, second you wrote:"We cannot obtain life by following the commandments."

Mat 19:16 And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why askest thou me concerning that which is good? One there is who is good: but if thou wouldest enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? And Jesus said, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Mat 19:19 Honor thy father and thy mother; and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

Jesus was saying to keep the commandments, me mentioned them in a short list that every Jew knew by heart.

you twist scripture and teach false doctrine.

 

[pinebeach]

a HUGE blunder you wrote here first GOD gives us a choice, second you wrote:"We cannot obtain life by following the commandments."

you twist scripture and teach false doctrine.

The commandments were given to draw attention to sin. You seem fascinated with that rather than praising God for the salvation He has given to us through His Son. You think if you manage to keep the commandments that somehow that is righteous in God's eyes?

No. That is denial of God's gift and blasphemy. You do not acknowledge the gospel which is the 'good news'. You harp on the commandments which were only a shadow of that which was hidden until Christ was born.

Why do you constantly deny the blood of Christ is the New Covenant? Who shall we believe? You, a false teacher, or God's plan of salvation revealed through the life of Christ?

If you say that we believe in cheap grace and continue sinning, you declare yourself an untruthful person.

 

[Rob7]

you twist scripture and teach false doctrine.

To YOU (Anti-Truth/Christ) false prophets, introducing destructive heresies as in 2 Peter 2:1, which reads: "Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master (Jesus) who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves."

... Ofcourse you will deny, malign, denigrate, and try to confuse the understanding of God's prophets, who proclaim a message of OBEDIENCE to God, to this sinful & spiritually dying world.

Matthew 24:11 and Matthew 24:24 prophesy that "many false prophets will arise and mislead many" and that false Christs and prophets will rise to show great signs to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

• 1 John 4:1 instructs believers to "test the spirits, whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
• Acts 20:29–30 warns that "savage wolves will come in among you" and that even from within the congregation, men will distort the truth to draw disciples away.
• 1 Timothy 4:1 states that "in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons."

YOU ! ... deceitful spirits, teachings misunderstanding & doctrines of demons, ie. disobedience to God, have been present in all of God's History, throughout the OT and the NT..

"But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be." Matt. 24:37 .... Noah, a prophet of God

"And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly."

This New Testament verse explicitly calls Noah a "preacher of righteousness." ... Noah's role was not only to build the ark but also to proclaim the message of obedience = righteousness and repentance.

"By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith."

• Here, Noah’s obedience to God's warning and his preparation of the ark are linked to his faith and righteousness. He is portrayed as obedient, condemning the world by his actions, and trusting in God's promise.

Ellen G. White, emphasizes that Noah's preaching of righteousness was not just limited to building the ark but also involved calling people to repentance. She writes:

"For 120 years Noah's voice was heard in warning. The message he brought was that of repentance and reform; he was a preacher of righteousness" (Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 92).

According to White, Noah’s role as a preacher of righteousness was vital in God's plan to give the world a chance to repent before the flood came. Despite the rejection of his message, Noah continued to be faithful and obedient to God’s commands.

Noah is clearly depicted as a preacher of righteousness in both the Bible and the writings of Ellen G. White. He faithfully preached for 120 years, calling people to obedience and repentance in preparation for the coming judgment. His life is an example of unwavering faith, righteousness, and obedience to God despite widespread rejection.

Elijah a prophets of God, confronted 450 prophets of Baal and 400 prophets of Asherah.
The Bible describes Elijah as a prophet sent by God who preached obedience to God and challenged the Israelites to stop wavering between the Lord and Baal. In 1 Kings 18:21, Elijah publicly declared, "How long will you falter between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal, follow him," directly calling the people to choose obedience to the true God

John the Baptist a prophet of God, with Jesus affirming he was "more than a prophet" and the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy ( Matthew 11:9-11; Isaiah 40:3 ). He was uniquely called to prepare the way for the Messiah, serving as the voice crying in the wilderness to turn hearts toward God.

John's ministry centered on preaching repentance and obedience to God's call, urging the people to "produce fruit in keeping with repentance" ( Matthew 3:8 ). He demonstrated unwavering obedience to his divine mission by living an ascetic life in the wilderness, confronting religious hypocrisy, and fearlessly rebuking King Herod Antipas ( as we Adventist rebuke this World, for your disobedience ) for his unlawful marriage. Forwhich they took his head off !

False Prophets, Pharisaical types and all those promoting disobedience to God, are siding with Satan and his AntiChrist, ( Revelation 16:13 ) and will naturally reject any council of "Obedience to God" saying " We don't have to keep the 10 Commandments, God's Moral Law" and will deny and denigrate EGW, Adventists or anyone proclaiming the necessity of OBEDIENCE to God, through Faith to have the Righteousness of Christ, by LOVE, to become Justified & Sanctified to God, becoming His Obedient Children, " ... the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev. 14:12 ... Inheriting eternal life with Jesus. ~~~~ Amen ! I Pray !!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ~~ Blessed Sabbath Folks ! ~~ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++​

 

[TMS]

The Savior said the same thing another way: 24 Then Jesus told His disciples, “If ANYONE wants to COME AFTER ME [following Him as sheep follow their Shepherd], he must deny HIMSELF and TAKE UP HIS CROSS and FOLLOW ME . 25 For whoever wants to save his life {his "soul") will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
(Matthew 16:24-25)

I have not taught anything different.

It is by surrender of self to Jesus that we are saved. By denying self and taking up the cross.

When self is dead and the Holy lives in us we will naturally live in accordance with God's will.

Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

The desire to keep the commandments is not a burden, but the natural result of a heart that has been transformed by God. True love for God and the act of keeping His law are inseparable.

Do you love love God while you are purposely disobeying the law of God?

The Bible from start to finish shows God's faithful as those that Obey Him.

"For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous" 1 John 5:3.

Before we can truly walk in His ways, God must work within us. Christ taught that a spiritual rebirth is necessary to align our lives with His will John 3:7. When the law is written in the heart, obedience becomes a delight rather than a legalistic chore Psalm 40:8.

No Glory to us, we can only do this when we die to self.
By abiding in Christ, we receive the power to live as He lived—in perfect harmony with the Father’s commandments John 15:10

 

[TMS]

No one answered my question?
Because we love Jesus do you feel motivated to not steal. Because you love Jesus are you motivated to not kill or murder. Do the 10 commandments have have a place in your heart because you love to obey God???

Are Keeping the commandments a result of Dieing to self and bearing the cross???

 

[Cameron143]

No one answered my question?
Because we love Jesus do you feel motivated to not steal. Because you love Jesus are you motivated to not kill or murder. Do the 10 commandments have have a place in your heart because you love to obey God???

Are Keeping the commandments a result of Dieing to self and bearing the cross???

Nope. Obedience results from walking in the Spirit.

You didn't answer my question: how do you moment by moment know you are loving God and loving others?

 

[Inquisitor]

No one answered my question?
Because we love Jesus do you feel motivated to not steal. Because you love Jesus are you motivated to not kill or murder. Do the 10 commandments have have a place in your heart because you love to obey God???

Are Keeping the commandments a result of Dieing to self and bearing the cross???

We need to sort something out here.

The SDA is based on a so called prophecy by William Miller.

There has been a huge mistake made in defining William Miller as a prophet.

I asked AI the question; is William Miller a prophet or someone using an interpretation of a verse in Daniel?

Interesting that it took AI some time to dig through the literature and that is unusual.

Logically, William Miller was a biblical interpreter predicting a return date rather than a prophet claiming
direct revelation. He functioned as a lay preacher who calculated a "time" for the Second Coming (initially 1843-1844)
through intensive, systematic study of Daniel 8:14, rather than receiving visions.

Key Aspects of Miller’s Role:

• Methodical Calculator: Miller used a literal, systematic approach to scripture, applying the day-year principle
  to the 2300-day prophecy of Daniel, leading him to believe the Second Advent would happen around 1843-1844.
• Interpreter, Not Prophet: He did not see himself as receiving new prophetic revelations from God, but rather as an explorer of existing prophetic texts, putting him in the tradition of Bible interpretation.
• Failed Predictions ("Great Disappointment"): When Jesus did not return on March 21, 1844, or October 22, 1844, Miller acknowledged his misunderstanding. He stopped setting dates afterward, unlike those defined as "false prophets".
• Misinterpreted Event: While later adherents (like Seventh-day Adventists) believed Miller's time calculation was correct, they concluded his event interpretation (the "cleansing of the sanctuary" meant the Second Coming) was wrong.
  

While some contemporary skeptics or supporters called him a "prophet" in a colloquial sense, he is
academically characterized as a mistaken apocalyptic predictor or revivalist, not a prophet claiming inspiration.

 

[GWH]

I know the Decalogue is part of the OC,
and I know the OC was superseded by the Gospel (Heb. 7:21-10:1).

Next question?

 

[TMS]

I know the Decalogue is part of the OC,
and I know the OC was superseded by the Gospel (Heb. 7:21-10:1).

Next question?

Should we not steal and not murder, and not take the Lord's name in vain. ?

Should we commit Adultery or bow down to graven images?

When did God make these laws void?

 

[TMS]

We need to sort something out here.

The SDA is based on a so called prophecy by William Miller.

There has been a huge mistake made in defining William Miller as a prophet.

I asked AI the question; is William Miller a prophet or someone using an interpretation of a verse in Daniel?

Interesting that it took AI some time to dig through the literature and that is unusual.

Logically, William Miller was a biblical interpreter predicting a return date rather than a prophet claiming
direct revelation. He functioned as a lay preacher who calculated a "time" for the Second Coming (initially 1843-1844)
through intensive, systematic study of Daniel 8:14, rather than receiving visions.

Key Aspects of Miller’s Role:

• Methodical Calculator: Miller used a literal, systematic approach to scripture, applying the day-year principle
  to the 2300-day prophecy of Daniel, leading him to believe the Second Advent would happen around 1843-1844.
• Interpreter, Not Prophet: He did not see himself as receiving new prophetic revelations from God, but rather as an explorer of existing prophetic texts, putting him in the tradition of Bible interpretation.
• Failed Predictions ("Great Disappointment"): When Jesus did not return on March 21, 1844, or October 22, 1844, Miller acknowledged his misunderstanding. He stopped setting dates afterward, unlike those defined as "false prophets".
• Misinterpreted Event: While later adherents (like Seventh-day Adventists) believed Miller's time calculation was correct, they concluded his event interpretation (the "cleansing of the sanctuary" meant the Second Coming) was wrong.

While some contemporary skeptics or supporters called him a "prophet" in a colloquial sense, he is
academically characterized as a mistaken apocalyptic predictor or revivalist, not a prophet claiming inspiration.

The history is largely unseen but I will say that it was predicted by God.

He was looking at the book of Daniel and the 2300 day prophecy.

It was a spiritual revival that was sweet in the mouth but was bitter in the belly.

Rev 10:9-10
9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. 10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

If the understanding of the 2300 day prophecy doesn't work for you.. well that's your choice.

We are talking about the 10 commandments and it's relevance today.

You already said you believe in then except for the sabbath.

 

[TMS]

We need to sort something out here.

The SDA is based on a so called prophecy by William Miller.

There has been a huge mistake made in defining William Miller as a prophet.

I asked AI the question; is William Miller a prophet or someone using an interpretation of a verse in Daniel?

Interesting that it took AI some time to dig through the literature and that is unusual.

Logically, William Miller was a biblical interpreter predicting a return date rather than a prophet claiming
direct revelation. He functioned as a lay preacher who calculated a "time" for the Second Coming (initially 1843-1844)
through intensive, systematic study of Daniel 8:14, rather than receiving visions.

Key Aspects of Miller’s Role:

• Methodical Calculator: Miller used a literal, systematic approach to scripture, applying the day-year principle
  to the 2300-day prophecy of Daniel, leading him to believe the Second Advent would happen around 1843-1844.
• Interpreter, Not Prophet: He did not see himself as receiving new prophetic revelations from God, but rather as an explorer of existing prophetic texts, putting him in the tradition of Bible interpretation.
• Failed Predictions ("Great Disappointment"): When Jesus did not return on March 21, 1844, or October 22, 1844, Miller acknowledged his misunderstanding. He stopped setting dates afterward, unlike those defined as "false prophets".
• Misinterpreted Event: While later adherents (like Seventh-day Adventists) believed Miller's time calculation was correct, they concluded his event interpretation (the "cleansing of the sanctuary" meant the Second Coming) was wrong.

While some contemporary skeptics or supporters called him a "prophet" in a colloquial sense, he is
academically characterized as a mistaken apocalyptic predictor or revivalist, not a prophet claiming inspiration.

The history is largely unseen but I will say that it was predicted by God.

He was looking at the book of Daniel and the 2300 day prophecy.

It was a spiritual revival that was sweet in the mouth but was bitter in the belly.

Rev 10:9-10
9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. 10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

If the understanding of the 2300 day prophecy doesn't work for you.. well that's your choice.

We are talking about the 10 commandments and the it's relevance today.

You already said you believe in then except for the sabbath

 

[GWH]

Should we not steal and not murder, and not take the Lord's name in vain. ?

Should we commit Adultery or bow down to graven images?

When did God make these laws void?

Most of the Torah/OT Law was Levitical for the purpose of creating a culture that would produce Messiah
and became void when that purpose was fulfilled by the advent and atonement of Jesus.

Some OT laws were elaborations of God's moral nature, revealed by creation and conscience,
and summarized by the Golden Rule (GR)/divine love (DL), which is fulfilled as believers in Messiah cooperate with the HS
(Rom. 5:5, 13:8, Gal. 5:22-23).

The five laws you cited are expressions of the latter and are expanded/amended and re-commanded in the NT (Matt. 5:20-48),
but the Sabbath Law (SL) is part of the former and was not re-commanded in the NT, although in a sense it too was amended
and expanded (Matt. 12:1-12, Col. 2:16-17, Rom. 12:1-3, Heb. 3:7-4:11) ).

 

[Inquisitor]

The history is largely unseen but I will say that it was predicted by God.

He was looking at the book of Daniel and the 2300 day prophecy.

It was a spiritual revival that was sweet in the mouth but was bitter in the belly.

Rev 10:9-10
9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. 10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

If the understanding of the 2300 day prophecy doesn't work for you.. well that's your choice.

We are talking about the 10 commandments and it's relevance today.

You already said you believe in then except for the sabbath.

Your confusing me with the Catholics and the Reformers.

I am not under the law.

I am under the law of Christ and not the ten commandments.

Walking in love for others fulfills the law absolutely.

The law was only given to Israel and they were in covenant to obey the law.

The Gentiles were never in covenant to obey the written law.

 

[Inquisitor]

Should we not steal and not murder, and not take the Lord's name in vain. ?

Should we commit Adultery or bow down to graven images?

When did God make these laws void?

The Gentiles legally were only under the law of Noah.

You keep confusing the former covenant that the Jews were bound to obey, with the Gentiles
that never had the law.

The Catholics and Reformers put you under the law.

 

[TMS]

Nope. Obedience results from walking in the Spirit.

You didn't answer my question: how do you moment by moment know you are loving God and loving others?

So you agree that by the power of the Holy Spirit we can obey the law. By walking in the Spirit obedience is the result.

Not because we are able but because God can do it in us.

But we need to die to self and allow The Spirit to work in us.

Love is best defined by looking at God.

God is Love.

So we know we are loving God and others when God is living in us.
We know we are filled with God's love when self is dead, and we are surrendered to God.

We will act like Jesus when we are walking in the Spirit.

Joh 15:9-10
9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Love is all about Jesus living in us.
Being connected to the vine.
Being filled with the Holy Spirit.

The fruit you produce will show who is your master.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

 

[Gideon300]

Why? How I behave isn't going to gain salvation.. doing Christ's works and bearing His cross is a delight when you love the Lord Jesus.

True obedience is the heart's joyful response to God’s love, expressed through a life that is in harmony with His ten commandments.

Obedience is not a means of earning salvation, but rather the fruit of a saving relationship with Jesus Christ. When we love Him, we naturally desire to walk in His ways and reflect His character to the world.

The law of God is a transcript of His character and serves as the eternal standard for our lives. It reveals our duty to both God and our fellow man.
Love for God and Love for our neighbors.

Obedience is the very essence of why we were created. "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man" Ecclesiastes 12:13.

The law is not an arbitrary set of rules but a perfect guide for the soul. "The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul" Psalm 19:7.

Jesus lived a life of perfect obedience as an example for us. "I delight to do your will, O my God: yes, your law is within my heart" Psalm 40:8.

Our actions reveal the true state of our hearts. True love for God is always demonstrated by a willingness to follow His instructions.
Jesus clearly identified the link between affection and action. John 14:15.

Obedience allows us to remain in close communion with our Saviour. "If you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love" John 15:10.

Scripture defines the love of God through our loyalty to His precepts. "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous" 1 John 5:3.

God has provided specific signs of our allegiance to Him, chief among them being the Sabbath, which commemorates His power as both Creator and Sanctifier.

Keeping the Sabbath is a sign that it is the Lord who makes us holy. "Verily my sabbaths you shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that you may know that I am the LORD that does sanctify you" Exodus 31:13.

In the final days of earth's history, God’s people are identified by their steadfast obedience. "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war
with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" Revelation 12:17.
The final conflict develops a class of people who remain loyal despite opposition. "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus" Revelation 14:12.

We cannot keep the law in our own strength; it is only through the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit that true obedience becomes possible.

When we walk by the Spirit, we are no longer under the condemnation of the law because we are fulfilling its righteousness. "That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit" Romans 8:4.

Choosing to follow God’s path leads to peace, prosperity, and the eventual gift of eternal life.

Disregard for God's law leads to unrest, but obedience brings tranquility. "O that you had listened to my commandments! then had your peace been as a river, and your righteousness as the waves of the sea" Isaiah 48:18.

The ultimate gift for a life of faithful obedience through Christ is entrance into the Holy City. "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city" Revelation 22:14.

Insistence on keeping the sabbath is a sign that you do not know the true gospel. I know what SDA teach. It's putting grace back under the law and rejecting the true gospel. You expose your ignorance by your misinterpretation of God's word. You reveal that you are unteachable when you reject those who correct your false doctrine.

Do you even know what eternal life is? Do you know Jesus? I see no sign that you do. All you have is a concept.

This is eternal life:

"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever rejects the Son will not see life. Instead, the wrath of God remains on him.” John 3:36

"And this is that testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life." 1 John 5:11 & 12

"Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent." John 17:3

If you do not have eternal life now, you are not saved, no matter how religiously you obey the Law.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Insistence on keeping the sabbath is a sign that you do not know the true gospel. I know what SDA teach. It's putting grace back under the law and rejecting the true gospel. You expose your ignorance by your misinterpretation of God's word. You reveal that you are unteachable when you reject those who correct your false doctrine.

Do you even know what eternal life is? Do you know Jesus? I see no sign that you do. All you have is a concept.

This is eternal life:

"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever rejects the Son will not see life. Instead, the wrath of God remains on him.” John 3:36

"And this is that testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life." 1 John 5:11 & 12

"Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent." John 17:3

If you do not have eternal life now, you are not saved, no matter how religiously you obey the Law.

What man deems as a sign is not that important. God deems that's important.

God said the Sabbath is a sign between God and His people

Eze 20:20 hallow My Sabbaths, and they will be a sign between Me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.’

Its a sign of His sanctification

Eze 20:13 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them.

Because we can't do this ourselves we need God.

Isa 66:17 “Those who sanctify themselves and purify themselves,
To go to the gardens
After an idol in the midst,
Eating swine’s flesh and the abomination and the mouse,
Shall be consumed together,” says the Lord.


God calls everyone to join ourselves to Him and be His servant

Isa 56:6 “Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant

Only His servants will be sealed- why He invited everyone -

Rev 7:3saying, “Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.”

Sadly many do not respond to the call because of a harden heart just as those before us Heb3:7-19 Eze20:13 Exe20:15-16

Why belief and obey are interchangeable in Scripture

John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

Which would include obeying what Jesus said man should live by quoting the OT- every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God Mat4:4

 

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So you agree that by the power of the Holy Spirit we can obey the law. By walking in the Spirit obedience is the result.

Not because we are able but because God can do it in us.

But we need to die to self and allow The Spirit to work in us.

Love is best defined by looking at God.

God is Love.

So we know we are loving God and others when God is living in us.
We know we are filled with God's love when self is dead, and we are surrendered to God.

We will act like Jesus when we are walking in the Spirit.

Joh 15:9-10
9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Love is all about Jesus living in us.
Being connected to the vine.
Being filled with the Holy Spirit.

The fruit you produce will show who is your master.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

We believe that by the power of the Holy Spirit we can reflect God's love/cooperate with His will,
which is called walking in the Spirit.

We are able to do this because God enables us to cooperate with Him.
It takes two to tango (Hez. 5:12 :^).