The Three Angels And Babylon's Fall

[Walter]

Friday 6-23-23 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Tammuz 4 5783, 3rd. Summer Day

Revelation 14

The 144,000

1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

The Three Angels' Announcements

6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

The Harvest Judgement

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Love, Walter and Debbie

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Wow I was just studying the revelation and babylons fall so cool to find you guys have posted bout it !!!

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Did you guys notice all the descriptions of Babylon in the vision and notice how there’s a beautiful woman arrayed and then she gives birth to the messiah and then she’s pursued into the desert so you have

“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: and she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:1-2, 5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

then this

“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Then this

“So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

and upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:3-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you see how the woman begins beautiful and pure wearing her crown of twelve stars clothed with the sun and moon and she’s expecting to have a son who would rule from Gods throne with a rod of iron

the woman is persecuted and pursued into the desert and eventually you see the beast has caught her and she’s defiled and her attire has changed and now she’s holding a cup of fornication and abominations she’s also blamed for the blood of all the martyrs and with corrupting the nations around her ect

This is one of many many corresponding laments and prophecy 700 years prior

“Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,

Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine. Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil. I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk. I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck. And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head. Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.

And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.

But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.

Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them, And in all thine abominations and thy whoredoms thou hast not remembered the days of thy youth, when thou wast naked and bare, and wast polluted in thy blood.

Thou hast built thy high place at every head of the way, and hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms.

Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbours, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me to anger.

Thou hast played the whore also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied. Thou hast moreover multiplied thy fornication in the land of Canaan unto Chaldea; and yet thou wast not satisfied herewith.

They give gifts to all whores: but thou givest thy gifts to all thy lovers, and hirest them, that they may come unto thee on every side for thy whoredom.

Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the LORD: Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thy filthiness was poured out, and thy nakedness discovered through thy whoredoms with thy lovers, and with all the idols of thy abominations, and by the blood of thy children, which thou didst give unto them; behold, therefore I will gather all thy lovers, with whom thou hast taken pleasure, and all them that thou hast loved, with all them that thou hast hated; I will even gather them round about against thee, and will discover thy nakedness unto them, that they may see all thy nakedness. And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy. And I will also give thee into their hand, and they shall throw down thine eminent place, and shall break down thy high places: they shall strip thee also of thy clothes, and shall take thy fair jewels, and leave thee naked and bare. They shall also bring up a company against thee, and they shall stone thee with stones, and thrust thee through with their swords. And they shall burn thine houses with fire, and execute judgments upon thee in the sight of many women: and I will cause thee to cease from playing the harlot, and thou also shalt give no hire any more. So will I make my fury toward thee to rest, and my jealousy shall depart from thee, and I will be quiet, and will be no more angry.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭16:2, 8-17, 22, 25-26, 28-29, 33, 35-42‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This is one of the most consistent themes in prophecy regarding the future of Jerusalem in Jeremiah Ezekiel especially Jerusalem and also Judah are painted as two sisters that out do one another with thier whoredoms see the prophecy and lament of aholah and aholibah


“Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah.”

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Friday 6-23-23 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Tammuz 4 5783, 3rd. Summer Day

Revelation 14

The 144,000

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

The Three Angels' Announcements

6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

The Harvest Judgement

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Love, Walter and Debbie

“After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭4:1-2‬ ‭

“but ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12:22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: …..And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:2, 4‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.”

“And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, (the throne is in heaven where they are and jesus is standing )and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth”( they aren’t standing on earth they were redeemed from earth )

( the ot was exclusive to everyone but the tribes of Israel and converts to them then the gospel eas sent to all nations )

“And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭14:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Then another group appears at the throne from all nations and peoples singing and praising

“After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; and cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:9-10, 14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

redeemed by the gospel message as the others had been redeemed from the earth beforehand and brought to Gods throne now suddenly appears an inummersble group of gentiles joining this limited number of Israelis beforehand

“The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬


we’re seeing into the kingdom in heaven where initially only israel was allowed but now gentiles also are included by the new testsment sent to them as an invite to the wedding

“how that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; that the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭3:3, 5-6‬ ‭

So first we see only israel before the throne because they had the gospel forst preached to israel and then After we see gentiles included because it was sent to them after Jesus rose and ascended to heaven

revelation is a really amazing book

 

[Inquisitor]

Did you guys notice all the descriptions of Babylon in the vision and notice how there’s a beautiful woman arrayed and then she gives birth to the messiah and then she’s pursued into the desert so you have

“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: and she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:1-2, 5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

then this

“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Then this

“So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

and upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:3-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you see how the woman begins beautiful and pure wearing her crown of twelve stars clothed with the sun and moon and she’s expecting to have a son who would rule from Gods throne with a rod of iron

the woman is persecuted and pursued into the desert and eventually you see the beast has caught her and she’s defiled and her attire has changed and now she’s holding a cup of fornication and abominations she’s also blamed for the blood of all the martyrs and with corrupting the nations around her ect

This is one of many many corresponding laments and prophecy 700 years prior

“Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,

Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine. Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil. I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk. I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck. And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head. Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.

And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.

But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.

Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them, And in all thine abominations and thy whoredoms thou hast not remembered the days of thy youth, when thou wast naked and bare, and wast polluted in thy blood.

Thou hast built thy high place at every head of the way, and hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms.

Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbours, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me to anger.

Thou hast played the whore also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied. Thou hast moreover multiplied thy fornication in the land of Canaan unto Chaldea; and yet thou wast not satisfied herewith.

They give gifts to all whores: but thou givest thy gifts to all thy lovers, and hirest them, that they may come unto thee on every side for thy whoredom.

Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the LORD: Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thy filthiness was poured out, and thy nakedness discovered through thy whoredoms with thy lovers, and with all the idols of thy abominations, and by the blood of thy children, which thou didst give unto them; behold, therefore I will gather all thy lovers, with whom thou hast taken pleasure, and all them that thou hast loved, with all them that thou hast hated; I will even gather them round about against thee, and will discover thy nakedness unto them, that they may see all thy nakedness. And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy. And I will also give thee into their hand, and they shall throw down thine eminent place, and shall break down thy high places: they shall strip thee also of thy clothes, and shall take thy fair jewels, and leave thee naked and bare. They shall also bring up a company against thee, and they shall stone thee with stones, and thrust thee through with their swords. And they shall burn thine houses with fire, and execute judgments upon thee in the sight of many women: and I will cause thee to cease from playing the harlot, and thou also shalt give no hire any more. So will I make my fury toward thee to rest, and my jealousy shall depart from thee, and I will be quiet, and will be no more angry.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭16:2, 8-17, 22, 25-26, 28-29, 33, 35-42‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This is one of the most consistent themes in prophecy regarding the future of Jerusalem in Jeremiah Ezekiel especially Jerusalem and also Judah are painted as two sisters that out do one another with thier whoredoms see the prophecy and lament of aholah and aholibah


“Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah.”

I see the two women as different women. One is the bride and the other is the harlot.

 

[Inquisitor]

Friday 6-23-23 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Tammuz 4 5783, 3rd. Summer Day

Revelation 14

The 144,000

1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

The Three Angels' Announcements

6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

The Harvest Judgement

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Love, Walter and Debbie

Which city is Babylon, the great city?

 

[Walter]

Which city is Babylon, the great city?

Hello Inquisitor, Revelation 14:8, World system, Revelation 14:8 world system - Search (bing.com)

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I see the two women as different women. One is the bride and the other is the harlot.

yeah thats a fair opinion brother a lot of people don’t see it like I do , it doesn’t invalidate thier or your opinion . God bless

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Which city is Babylon, the great city?

In revelation you look at the imagery and identifying characteristics like a description , or a sentance of judgement in this case. Then look for corresponding descriptions in tbe ot prophecies it won’t take long before you have a whole clarity

“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

and upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:4-6‬ ‭

“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, and say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23:29-32, 34-36‬ ‭

“And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭18:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23:37-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, and sent forth his servants ( early prophets )to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, ( latter prophets ) Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: and the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. ( 67 ad soon after johns revelation )Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

Go ye therefore into the highways, ( all nations and people ) and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭22:2-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬
“And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judæa flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written ( in the ot prophets read Jeremiah , and Ezekiel ) may be fulfilled.

And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:20-22, 24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jerusalem began as the chosen city of God beautiful and was made to rule the whole earth with God in his temple and Jerusalem the world capitol a city of preists unto God for the rest of the earths people.

abut they always rejected his word defiles his covenants and worshipped every false god they ever found out about since the made a calfe as they were getting the Ten Commandments and worshipped it u til Jesus came and many were worshipping Roman gods

he in the prophets of old describes jesusalen just as he describes the great whore that is judged in the vision is what I’m saying

 

[Inquisitor]

yeah thats a fair opinion brother a lot of people don’t see it like I do , it doesn’t invalidate thier or your opinion . God bless

If you think that 'Babylon' is the city of Jerusalem, then read the text below.


Revelation 17:9
Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills upon which the woman sits...

The city being described above is beyond any question, the city of Rome.

Rome is often referred to as the city of seven hills due to its geographic location, and also as the "Eternal City".
(wikipedia)

Revelation 18:15-19
The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was clothed in fine linen and purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold, precious stones, and pearls; for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!’ And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and all who make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What city is like the great city?’ And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich from her prosperity, for in one hour she has been laid waste!’

No merchant was made rich trading with Jerusalem. Once again, Rome was the wealthiest city in the world for so many centuries. Rome has always manufactured luxury goods, cars, fashion, operas, art, wine, etc.

What goods does Jerusalem produce? Olives?

Jerusalem was a small city in a small country in the Middle East.

Revelation 18:23-24
And the light of a lamp will never shine in you again; and the voice of the groom and bride will never be heard in you again; for your merchants were the powerful people of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your witchcraft. And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.

Who killed the apostles, who imprisoned John?

Who waged war with other countries?

Who conducted the Inquisitions?

Who had a firm grip on Christianity for more than a millennia?

Jerusalem was sacked in AD 70. Jerusalem was never a player in the game.

 

[selahsays]

Hi siblings…

Here’s my understanding:

The first woman represents mother Israel through who would come the Messiah. This woman in verse 1 of chapter 12 who is clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars symbolizes mother Israel and her 12 sons. Remember Joseph’s dream?

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Genesis 37:9​

And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.​

Rev. 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.​

But in chapter 17, we see that other woman, the harlot of Babylon (confusion).
(3) So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

We should know who the "scarlet coloured beast" is. He's the "red dragon" of Rev. 12:3 and 13:1. It is Satan and his power structure of one-worldism. So who is the "woman"?

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Rev. 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. Rev. 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication…Rev. 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. ​

This "woman" is "false religion” and deception and she sits on "the religious beast" of the one world system.

 

[Inquisitor]

Hi siblings…

Here’s my understanding:

The first woman represents mother Israel through who would come the Messiah. This woman in verse 1 of chapter 12 who is clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars symbolizes mother Israel and her 12 sons. Remember Joseph’s dream?

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Genesis 37:9​

And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.​

Rev. 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.​

But in chapter 17, we see that other woman, the harlot of Babylon (confusion).
(3) So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

We should know who the "scarlet coloured beast" is. He's the "red dragon" of Rev. 12:3 and 13:1. It is Satan and his power structure of one-worldism. So who is the "woman"?

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Rev. 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. Rev. 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication…Rev. 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. ​

This "woman" is "false religion” and deception and she sits on "the religious beast" of the one world system.

The scripture indicates the harlot is a city. Read the following passage.

Revelation 18:15-19
The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was clothed in fine linen and purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold, precious stones, and pearls; for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!’ And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and all who make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What city is like the great city?’

There cannot be any doubt at all, that John is describing the city of Rome.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

The scripture indicates the harlot is a city. Read the following passage.

Revelation 18:15-19
The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was clothed in fine linen and purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold, precious stones, and pearls; for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!’ And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and all who make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What city is like the great city?’

There cannot be any doubt at all, that John is describing the city of Rome.

If you think that 'Babylon' is the city of Jerusalem, then read the text below.


Revelation 17:9
Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills upon which the woman sits...

The city being described above is beyond any question, the city of Rome.

Rome is often referred to as the city of seven hills due to its geographic location, and also as the "Eternal City".
(wikipedia)

Revelation 18:15-19
The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was clothed in fine linen and purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold, precious stones, and pearls; for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!’ And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and all who make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What city is like the great city?’ And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich from her prosperity, for in one hour she has been laid waste!’

No merchant was made rich trading with Jerusalem. Once again, Rome was the wealthiest city in the world for so many centuries. Rome has always manufactured luxury goods, cars, fashion, operas, art, wine, etc.

What goods does Jerusalem produce? Olives?

Jerusalem was a small city in a small country in the Middle East.

Revelation 18:23-24
And the light of a lamp will never shine in you again; and the voice of the groom and bride will never be heard in you again; for your merchants were the powerful people of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your witchcraft. And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.

Who killed the apostles, who imprisoned John?

Who waged war with other countries?

Who conducted the Inquisitions?

Who had a firm grip on Christianity for more than a millennia?

Jerusalem was sacked in AD 70. Jerusalem was never a player in the game.

Yeah the seven hills are referencing the many mountains of Israel in which they built altars for false gods

Its basic for me the old testsment says many things about Jerusalem , revelation hits on every one of them when describing this city it doesn’t leave any room for try g to figure anything out it just makes it make sense

abut you know especially revelation o bc yes a hundred different interpretations I’ve chosen to see what the prophets said would happen and the. See it happening in revelation

It would never make sense if we don’t actually read the Old Testament prophets though like the few I quoted d those I recommended

If you read the prophets when you read re elation it makes sense and one doesn’t have to guess what the images mean because those images are rooted in prophecy

If we were to let the Bible explain and interpret the Bible it’s not confusing

do you see this ? When the angelmis exolaining babylons judgement

“For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭16:6‬ ‭

“And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭18:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Now Do you see what Jesus says of Jerusalem ?

“Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23:34-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think the thing is it’s a perfect fit of you look at what scriptures say the great whore is barged with shedding the blood of the saints and prophets sent to her ( Jerusalem ) how would you explain Jesus saying “ Jerusalem is charged with all the blood of all the prophets on earth and will Be left desolate soon “ and John is explaining “Babylon was destroyed because she was charged with the blood of all the righteous and prophets o were killed “

you don’t think there’s a connection ? Or the prophecies where God says “ I made you a beautiful city wearing a fine mitre and dressed you in beautiful clothes but you rebelled and became proud and became a whore and now I’ll turn you over to your lovers and they’ll destroy you “

a then on revelation it says e same thing again

“And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:16-17‬ ‭

same judfements God swore to Jerusalem. In the ot prophets here

“Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations, Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the LORD:

Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thy filthiness was poured out, and thy nakedness discovered through thy whoredoms with thy lovers, and with all the idols of thy abominations, and by the blood of thy children, which thou didst give unto them; behold, therefore I will gather all thy lovers, with whom thou hast taken pleasure, and all them that thou hast loved, with all them that thou hast hated; I will even gather them round about against thee, and will discover thy nakedness unto them, that they may see all thy nakedness. And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy. And I will also give thee into their hand, and they shall throw down thine eminent place, and shall break down thy high places: they shall strip thee also of thy clothes, and shall take thy fair jewels, and leave thee naked and bare.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭16:2, 35-39‬ ‭

Its about the desolation of Jerusalem wrotten on the prophets rome is one of the heads of the beast number 6 who was ruling in johns day who eventually besieged and burned Jerusalem and it’s temple tonthe ground in 67-70 ad

a johns revelation was written from 60-95 ad is the consensus if you look at the text it’s not really a mystery who the whore is it’s just it doesn’t make sense without hearing the prophets judge Jerusalem for all her whoredoms in The old testement if we do read those it becomes simple and clear

 

[Mathetes70]

There cannot be any doubt AT ALL, that John is describing the city of Rome...REALLY?

The entire area of Jerusalem is biblically referred to as “the Land of Moriah” as described in Genesis 22:2, when God tested Father Abraham. He said to him, “Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.”

We find the word “Moriah” once again in 2-Chronicles 3:1, telling us that "… Solomon began to build the temple of the LORD in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah, where the LORD had appeared to his father David. It was on the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite..."

The term “Moriah” in the Hebrew language, is a construct of two words. MORI = my teacher, and YA = the short version of the name Yahweh.

According to this view, the entire region is properly named “God is my teacher,” and we believe that God has much that He wants to teach His children as we study the region, its history, and the destiny of Jerusalem.

One of those timeless lessons is found in Psalm 125:1-2, which says, “Those who trust in the LORD are like Mount Zion, which cannot be moved, but abides forever. As the mountains surround Jerusalem, so the LORD surrounds His people from this time forth and forever.”

Composed as one of Israel’s “songs of ascents,” this inspired psalm was sung repeatedly by ministering Levites and pilgrims ascending the steps up to God’s Temple on Temple Mount to worship Him and bring their offering.

You can actually climb those very steps today, just a few feet away from the Western Wall in Jerusalem, and you can still hear these very same words sung in worship meetings across the land. Surely, the Word of God is ALIVE.

Most great cities throughout the world became great because of their strategic locations or natural resources such as a convenient seaport, an abundant water source, mines of precious metals or stones, etc. Yet Jerusalem has none of those. Given its humble topography and lack of any such strategic advantages, Jerusalem should have been just another ordinary, obscure, Middle Eastern city.

Yet, Jerusalem is the most renowned and fascinating city in the world, at least among people of faith, and the question is why?

The only reasonable explanation is the one which the Bible reveals time and again, referring to this city as the one place on earth where the Lord God chose to place His name (Deut 12:11), revealing and executing His rescue mission for all humanity through the sacrifice of His Messiah, the Son of the Living God. According to the book of Revelation, Jerusalem is also the Capital City of God’s coming Kingdom of righteousness and peace.

Jerusalem is located roughly in the middle of a range of low mountains running north to south throughout central Israel between the Mediterranean and the Jordan Valley, stretching from the Jezreel Valley in the north all the way to Beer Sheva in the south. Topographically, Jerusalem is not built ON a mountain.

Rather, it is built IN the mountains, and the city is, in fact, surrounded by seven mountain peaks higher than itself. That’s right! This ancient psalm composed by a passionate and spiritually minded worship leader thousands of years ago, is actually a very accurate geographical description of the entire holy region.

Seven mountain peaks surround the ancient City of Jerusalem (which was then much smaller than modern day Jerusalem which has greatly expanded in recent generations). These peaks are (1) Mount Scopus, (2) Mount of Olives, (3) Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks of a ridge stretching east of the City itself), (4) Mount Ophel, (5) the original Mount Zion/Moriah (today’s Temple Mt.), (6) the New Mount Zion (where the traditional Upper Room is located), and (7) the peak upon which the Roman Antonia Fortress was built just north of the Temple.

These seven peaks surround the biblical city of Jerusalem from all sides.

Just as Jerusalem is situated amidst the seven mountain peaks higher than itself, the truth of the Word of God comes home to us through the timeless promise that “As the mountains surround Jerusalem, so the LORD surrounds His people...” Take a look at any topographical map of the Jerusalem area, observe the mountains surrounding the city, and take faith in God who promised to be as real to you as these mountains are to Jerusalem.

This revelation is intended to strengthen and establish our hearts in faith and confidence in the God of Israel. Understanding the geography behind the poetry brings this revelation home! If you travel to Jerusalem, you can see these seven peaks with your own eyes!

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[Mathetes70]

Seven different angels are referred to in Rev 14 not just three. Each had a message and a purpose.