The Trump Dictatorship

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Blanche

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YOU ignorantly questioned what accomplishments. I provided scores of them.

Look at the list and dispute them.

Let's just look at one at a time shall we?

Is it true that under President Trump black unemployment is at it's lowest level ever recorded?


Is that true Blanche?
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My point, Penn Ed, is that your source is one-sided. I asked you about Lincoln. You said Trump is the greatest president we ever had. What about President Lincoln. Trump's success economically rides on the coattails of the previous era. I dont wish to argue these points with you. Trump is divisive and is damaging international relations ... that is dangerous.
I know you are one who will support Trump even if ... as she said ... if he stood in the middle of times square and shot someone, he would not lose his base. That is sad. As a President, he should be accountable. He wlll not be impeached, but I doubt he will be reelected.
 

PennEd

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My point, Penn Ed, is that your source is one-sided. I asked you about Lincoln. You said Trump is the greatest president we ever had. What about President Lincoln. Trump's success economically rides on the coattails of the previous era. I dont wish to argue these points with you. Trump is divisive and is damaging international relations ... that is dangerous.
I know you are one who will support Trump even if ... as she said ... if he stood in the middle of times square and shot someone, he would not lose his base. That is sad. As a President, he should be accountable. He wlll not be impeached, but I doubt he will be reelected.
With almost all your posts I have to sift through the ignorance, lies, half truths, and insults to have any meaningful dialog.

Please show me where I said Trump is the greatest President we ever had. Again, either a deliberate lie on your part, or incredibly poor reading comprehension skills.

I said President Trump, by measure of his accomplishments, is the greatest President OF MY LIFETIME. Unless you think I'm 155 yrs old.! Yeah. That's when Lincoln was President.

OF COURSE you dont want to talk about his accomplishments!! That's just the point isnt it?

This current conversation with you started when you questioned what accomplishments he had.

We can go through each one from the list, but you won't You hate him and NOTHING can change your mind about that.
 
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My point, Penn Ed, is that your source is one-sided. I asked you about Lincoln. You said Trump is the greatest president we ever had. What about President Lincoln. Trump's success economically rides on the coattails of the previous era. I dont wish to argue these points with you. Trump is divisive and is damaging international relations ... that is dangerous.
I know you are one who will support Trump even if ... as she said ... if he stood in the middle of times square and shot someone, he would not lose his base. That is sad. As a President, he should be accountable. He wlll not be impeached, but I doubt he will be reelected.

Trump's success economically rides on the coattails of the previous era.
If you know about economics investors they respond to what they perceive will be a favourable economic environment, there is no there is present economic growth in small business sector, business investment and goods-producing job growth.

A free market economy works best where economic policies support growth.
 
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With almost all your posts I have to sift through the ignorance, lies, half truths, and insults to have any meaningful dialog.

Please show me where I said Trump is the greatest President we ever had. Again, either a deliberate lie on your part, or incredibly poor reading comprehension skills.

I said President Trump, by measure of his accomplishments, is the greatest President OF MY LIFETIME. Unless you think I'm 155 yrs old.! Yeah. That's when Lincoln was President.

OF COURSE you dont want to talk about his accomplishments!! That's just the point isnt it?

This current conversation with you started when you questioned what accomplishments he had.

We can go through each one from the list, but you won't You hate him and NOTHING can change your mind about that.

Good catch Penn Ed:cool:
 

calibob

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Based on economics I think FDR was greater than any mentioned. Kennedy may have became as good but some human devil put a stop to that. Economically is a bad way to judge anyway but I'm not a lover of money!!! I Love Jesus, poor Jesus.
 

abcdef

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Here's a partial list of President Trump's accomplishments Blanche:

500 DAYS: In his first 500 days in office, President Donald J. Trump has achieved results domestically and internationally for the American people.
  • Since taking office, President Trump has strengthened American leadership, security, prosperity, and accountability.
As you say, one at a time.

Trump has had more admitted guilty criminals surrounding him than anybody I have ever heard of except gangsters.

Coen, Manafort and others are still being questioned by the FBI with more charges to be filed.

Trump is already an unindicted coconspirator in the Coen case.

Trump and his spy family have already admitted that they conspired with the Russians against the democrats in the Trump tower meeting and then lied about it.

Trump lied about knowing about the payments and having affairs with women.

He has openly and repeatedly attacked the investigation into Russian interference, obstructing justice.

He has given state secrets to the Russians at a meeting with their ambassador and others.

He cannot be trusted since he is a confirmed habitual liar. Lying and being caught, and admitting to making up trade deficit numbers with the Canadians.

He has caused doubt in the NATO treaty.

He is abandoning Israel. And you say No? See how china has taken over Israel's largest port. American ships will no longer be centered there as a base of operations.

Turkey has turned to Russia.

N Korea continues their nuclear/missile programs. Despite Trump's words, NK is no longer a nuclear threat.

He has destroyed all the markets. Once they were stable agreements, now they are in discord. Bye, bye, good international markets for farmers. They probably won't return any time soon, years. Small farms will be wiped out. This is just the beginning.
 

abcdef

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So, you believe that America should become a Trump dictatorship? King? Like Czar Putin? Stalin?
 
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So, you believe that America should become a Trump dictatorship? King? Like Czar Putin? Stalin?
I think people should adhere to the facts and avoid outlandish hyperbolic rhetoric devoid of any reality.....imho:cool:
 

abcdef

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I think people should adhere to the facts and avoid outlandish hyperbolic rhetoric devoid of any reality.....imho:cool:

Oh Yes, like the Trump tweets and lies that we hear everyday?

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In August 1939 Hitler was the most popular man in Germany.

The unemployment rate was at 2.8 percent, thanks to the arms build up.

7 years later, Germany and many cities were in ruins and millions of people were killed.

Never again! Never again! Never again! God help us NEVER AGAIN!

Hitler wasn't personally that powerful. That is, the people around him aided in the power grab. Hitler had demonic power that attracted people, made them believe the lies that they were the supreme race, tribe. The fruits of the seeds of brutality were human suffering and death.

And you say that it can't happen here, no no, it can't happen here, like most other countries in the world that have had confusion, fear, and lies as their fearless leaders.

Trump's reign of fear and terror has already started. This power and fear is world wide. Putting the fear of being abandoned by the US to their enemies, Russia, China, Iran, and other most violent adversaries of personal freedom.

Fear into the hearts of any immigrant, legal or not. Destroying Christian families looking for help, somehow hoping for mercy.

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Do you think that you own this USA nation? Do you think that you own anything? Your house? Your car? Your stuff? Vanity, vanity, all is passing away!

And who will own your property, car, stuff, after you are gone? In 100 years? 1000 years?

You don't own anything! It is only passing through your limited power of control.

Money, power, pride, confusion, lies, and fear, that is the spirit of Trump. Demon spirits, sparkling in the eyes of his followers.

America the great loving Christian nation is becoming America the cold and pitiful. The nation that turned against it's friends and abandoned the defenseless and poor of the world.

America was great, until the Russians, Trump, and some republicans.

Jerusalem is falling.

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PennEd

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Oh Yes, like the Trump tweets and lies that we hear everyday?

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In August 1939 Hitler was the most popular man in Germany.

The unemployment rate was at 2.8 percent, thanks to the arms build up.

7 years later, Germany and many cities were in ruins and millions of people were killed.

Never again! Never again! Never again! God help us NEVER AGAIN!

Hitler wasn't personally that powerful. That is, the people around him aided in the power grab. Hitler had demonic power that attracted people, made them believe the lies that they were the supreme race, tribe. The fruits of the seeds of brutality were human suffering and death.

And you say that it can't happen here, no no, it can't happen here, like most other countries in the world that have had confusion, fear, and lies as their fearless leaders.

Trump's reign of fear and terror has already started. This power and fear is world wide. Putting the fear of being abandoned by the US to their enemies, Russia, China, Iran, and other most violent adversaries of personal freedom.

Fear into the hearts of any immigrant, legal or not. Destroying Christian families looking for help, somehow hoping for mercy.

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Do you think that you own this USA nation? Do you think that you own anything? Your house? Your car? Your stuff? Vanity, vanity, all is passing away!

And who will own your property, car, stuff, after you are gone? In 100 years? 1000 years?

You don't own anything! It is only passing through your limited power of control.

Money, power, pride, confusion, lies, and fear, that is the spirit of Trump. Demon spirits, sparkling in the eyes of his followers.

America the great loving Christian nation is becoming America the cold and pitiful. The nation that turned against it's friends and abandoned the defenseless and poor of the world.

America was great, until the Russians, Trump, and some republicans.

Jerusalem is falling.

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Yeah..... NO. The fascists today are those on the left and democrats that bully, harass, and even physically assault decent law abiding Americans. Screaming "I need a safe space! And your mere presence is threatening me!" All while simultaneously punching the supposed "threat" in the face!! You are a total sad, sick Joke!

These vicious fascists ON THE LEFT refuse to allow free speech all over the country. They put out garbage like this post of yours. I thank God many people are waking up to the fascist left.

But do carry on, as long as you understand many aren't buying or putting up with this trash any longer.
 

abcdef

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Yeah..... NO. The fascists today are those on the left and democrats that bully, harass, and even physically assault decent law abiding Americans.
No, that is the prejudiced supremacists on the right who are feeling empowered by Trump and his cronies who are attacking people for being of a different religion or being from a different ethnic background.


Screaming "I need a safe space! And your mere presence is threatening me!" All while simultaneously punching the supposed "threat" in the face!!
Example?


You are a total sad, sick Joke!
That is probably what you say to everyone who disagrees with you. (I don't believe that about you.)


These vicious fascists ON THE LEFT refuse to allow free speech all over the country.
That person sitting next to you in church, is a vicious fascist, because they voted for a democrat? ha, ha.


They put out garbage like this post of yours.
Can't bear to hear the truth about our fearless leader?


I thank God many people are waking up to the fascist left.
The election will tell if that is true.


But do carry on, as long as you understand many aren't buying or putting up with this trash any longer.
Loving your immigrant neighbor as yourself is trash? Helping those in need and the poor is trash? Equal rights under the law is trash? Medical help for everyone is trash?

Speaking and tweeting lies everyday is the trash mouth leader of the fake republicans. But you continue to endorse a liar and conspirator.

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abcdef

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Here's a partial list of President Trump's accomplishments Blanche:

500 DAYS: In his first 500 days in office, President Donald J. Trump has achieved results domestically and internationally for the American people.

  • After 500 days, the results are clear: the American economy is stronger, American workers are experiencing more opportunities, confidence is soaring, and business is booming.
The economy crashed at the end of Bush's term. Laws were passed to keep the incident from happening again. Since then the republicans have removed the safe guards against the events happening again. Look for another crash because of the lack of oversight by the republicans.

The economy was in recovery for 8 years under Obama. Trump wants to take credit for the work of Obama.

Trump has destroyed the international markets with trade barriers and tariffs. Higher prices will follow for all imported goods.

The farmers have bought the Brooklyn bridge from a fast talking New York real estate salesman. They will be going bankrupt and making payments for nothing for many years. They believed a habitual liar.

The national budget has not been balanced, it has increased by a trillion dollars.
 
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Oh Yes, like the Trump tweets and lies that we hear everyday?

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In August 1939 Hitler was the most popular man in Germany.

The unemployment rate was at 2.8 percent, thanks to the arms build up.

7 years later, Germany and many cities were in ruins and millions of people were killed.

Never again! Never again! Never again! God help us NEVER AGAIN!

Hitler wasn't personally that powerful. That is, the people around him aided in the power grab. Hitler had demonic power that attracted people, made them believe the lies that they were the supreme race, tribe. The fruits of the seeds of brutality were human suffering and death.

And you say that it can't happen here, no no, it can't happen here, like most other countries in the world that have had confusion, fear, and lies as their fearless leaders.

Trump's reign of fear and terror has already started. This power and fear is world wide. Putting the fear of being abandoned by the US to their enemies, Russia, China, Iran, and other most violent adversaries of personal freedom.

Fear into the hearts of any immigrant, legal or not. Destroying Christian families looking for help, somehow hoping for mercy.

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Do you think that you own this USA nation? Do you think that you own anything? Your house? Your car? Your stuff? Vanity, vanity, all is passing away!

And who will own your property, car, stuff, after you are gone? In 100 years? 1000 years?

You don't own anything! It is only passing through your limited power of control.

Money, power, pride, confusion, lies, and fear, that is the spirit of Trump. Demon spirits, sparkling in the eyes of his followers.

America the great loving Christian nation is becoming America the cold and pitiful. The nation that turned against it's friends and abandoned the defenseless and poor of the world.

America was great, until the Russians, Trump, and some republicans.

Jerusalem is falling.

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First off I am not American.

Secondly, do you even know the political philosophy of Nazism? Your outrageous claims do nothing to bolster your argument.

No one is afraid of Trump, even the conservative political pundits are cautious about some of his policies.

Your identity politics is overwhelming your judgement. Social justice warriors, antifa are the true problem in American culture and politics. They are the ones that are now guilty of discrimination, spreading lies and limiting the true freedom of speech.


legal or not
Why should a sovereign country allow illegal immigrants? Its first duty is to its own citizens. I believe that the U.S. has a process for those claiming refugee status so i am not sure what the issue is there at all.

You don't own anything! It is only passing through your limited power of control.
It is socialism that seeks to do away with property rights not the conservatives, do you know this? Why do you first defend rights of ownership and then say it is all vanity?

The rest of your post is so out there, it is mostly very illogical emotional rant not grounded in any real analysis of the policies of the government.

You say everything is vanity, well, if you have issues with money just give it all away, I am sure Trump won't stop you
 

calibob

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You say everything is vanity, well, if you have issues with money just give it all away, I am sure Trump won't stop you[/QUOTE]

We can't! We are $20,000,000,000,000 in debt now!
 
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You say everything is vanity, well, if you have issues with money just give it all away, I am sure Trump won't stop you
We can't! We are $20,000,000,000,000 in debt now![/QUOTE]


I absolutely agree that the national debt is a huge problem, and where are the Conservatives on this issue? ....they seem to be willing to give Trump a pass on this which is unfortunate.

Where is the Tea Party movement now?
 

calibob

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We can't! We are $20,000,000,000,000 in debt now!

I absolutely agree that the national debt is a huge problem, and where are the Conservatives on this issue? ....they seem to be willing to give Trump a pass on this which is unfortunate.

Where is the Tea Party movement now?[/QUOTE]
Making tea of course!
 

MichaelOwen

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I absolutely agree that the national debt is a huge problem, and where are the Conservatives on this issue? ....they seem to be willing to give Trump a pass on this which is unfortunate.

Where is the Tea Party movement now?
Making tea of course![/QUOTE]

I hope it's sweet tea at least....
 

abcdef

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First off I am not American.
Since your profile is blocked, I cannot tell your nation. You are Canadian? Eh?


Secondly, do you even know the political philosophy of Nazism? Your outrageous claims do nothing to bolster your argument.
Which outrageous claim are you speaking about? That Hitler was the most popular man in Germany? That the unemployment rate was 2.8 in a booming economy?


No one is afraid of Trump,
He is the 2nd most dangerous person on the planet, second only to Czar Putin.

His reckless abuse of power should put everyone in fear of what he may do.


even the conservative political pundits are cautious about some of his policies.
And should be.


Your identity politics is overwhelming your judgement.
Ha, ha, like nobody else on CC has any identity politics, ha, ha, ha.

I like reasonable politics. Policies with reason and love. Equal rights under the law, regardless of religion, gender, ethnic background, or amount of wealth, etc.

These things are not given, they must be maintained by the will of the people. There are always has been and always will be greed and pride to fight against. The Bible has brought us to where we are now. But the lack of love is diminishing it's influence.


Social justice warriors, antifa are the true problem in American culture and politics.
Oh, not the KKK or the supremacists who want to cause a race war and seize power and establish a dictatorship? They have been plotting for decades, now they have power.


They are the ones that are now guilt of discrimination, spreading lies and limiting the true freedom of speech.
The spirit of Satan is confusing and dividing the nations. It just doesn't happen on one side, it is planet wide. The end will be the fall of Israel and Jerusalem. That is what this is all about, if you are a Christian.


Why should a sovereign country allow illegal immigrants? Its first duty is to its own citizens. I believe that the U.S. has a process for those claiming refugee status so i am not sure what the issue is there at all.
Right now they have needlessly torn families apart and are housing people in prison camps. They are not being allowed due process.

The cruelty and suffering imposed on the souls of the people because of the hardheartedness of one of the richest nations on earth.

Billions are spent on wars, millions per minute. But no food or help for those in need, that is the true republican way, the money is God, ruling their lives. They call it capitalism, the money god that directs a nation.


It is socialism that seeks to do away with property rights not the conservatives, do you know this?
Ever heard of eminent domain? They say that Trump uses it all the time for his motels. Everyday people kicked of there property for businesses with lot's of money.

Watch the movie, "You've been Trumped". It is the story of one Trump golf course. This will show the truth about how Trump is about property rights.

Property rights are very limited, left or right.


Why do you first defend rights of ownership and then say it is all vanity?
Solomon said, "All is vanity", I just agree.

But we live in a place between heaven and hell, pure love and complete absence of love. Between having everything and having nothing. Things are not always black and white, so reason must prevail in the areas of grey.

How many possessions did Jesus have? How about the rich young ruler? What about the woman with 2 mites? How should these examples be carried out by a Christian government? The good Samaritan was an immigrant of mixed ethnic background.


The rest of your post is so out there, it is mostly very illogical emotional rant not grounded in any real analysis of the policies of the government.
If you could go back in time to 1938 in Germany and said, "in 7 years Germany will be in ruins because of Hitler, and 50 million people will die in the war", some people may have told you similar words.


You say everything is vanity, well, if you have issues with money just give it all away, I am sure Trump won't stop you
I have given it all away, and will continue to do so.

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