Quote Originally Posted by abcdef View Post
Well, if you want to start in Rev. 1: 17-19....
"17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;"
Wait, I will write them down for you..I though I would add the exact words of our Lord Jesus Christ. Now if you will pay attention to what he said to JOHN....
"write the things which thou hast seen" Now John wrote Revelation around 94AD so these things are in the PAST.
"and the things which are" Yes, John was still under Roman Rule. So this is John's Present
"and the Things which shall be hereafter" the words 'Shall BE' denote the future BUT Jesus ups this one more note..."Hereafter"
OUR present definition of "hereafter" is :1 :after this in sequence or in time 2 :in some future time or state
The Septuagint LXX has a different writing of this part of v.19. Since they got their interpretation directly from the Hebrew manuscripts, I will write them done fo you as well.
They read as follows. "Therefore write the things which you have seen and the things which are and the things which will take place after these things. "
In other words the Future (After John)
Now I know you don't agree but then I expected that however there are others out there that may find it useful.
abcdef said:Show me exactly where the Bible says that the Revelation is all future to us, 2017 AD..
Well, if you want to start in Rev. 1: 17-19....
"17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;"
Wait, I will write them down for you..I though I would add the exact words of our Lord Jesus Christ. Now if you will pay attention to what he said to JOHN....
"write the things which thou hast seen" Now John wrote Revelation around 94AD so these things are in the PAST.
"and the things which are" Yes, John was still under Roman Rule. So this is John's Present
"and the Things which shall be hereafter" the words 'Shall BE' denote the future BUT Jesus ups this one more note..."Hereafter"
OUR present definition of "hereafter" is :1 :after this in sequence or in time 2 :in some future time or state
The Septuagint LXX has a different writing of this part of v.19. Since they got their interpretation directly from the Hebrew manuscripts, I will write them done fo you as well.
They read as follows. "Therefore write the things which you have seen and the things which are and the things which will take place after these things. "
In other words the Future (After John)
Now I know you don't agree but then I expected that however there are others out there that may find it useful.