The US Joins WW3

[Cameron143]

Well I think we both clearly disagree, but the point is that I read Daniel 9 telling me that Jesus was crucified at the end of the 69th week and you needed one more week to accomplish everything. You could say that by the cross 69/70ths was fulfilled. But like the Lord said, every jot and tittle must be fulfilled and we still had some prophecies that had not yet been fulfilled.

There are a few things still to be done, but even those were begun in the 1st century, are coming more fully over time, and will come consummately when time ends.

 

[ZNP]

Iran's missiles are starting to get through the Iron dome

One missile was a direct hit on a mosque. Another missile dropped a cluster bomb on a day care center and still another missile hit a school in Tel Aviv. The good news for Iran is that no one seems to care that these are all considered war crimes. These missiles are effective, now even the liberals and progressives in Israel support the war and realize the IRGC needs to be removed from power.

🚨 LIVE: Iran TARGETS Israeli Schools And Mosques - Casualties Increase

 

[Kroogz]

In the first century just as Paul wrote to his audience and told them it would be.

So how do you describe "the fullness of the gentiles has come in?"

Seems even history would record this amazing and once in a lifetime event!

 

[Kroogz]

Look what God states regarding Covenant Isreal....

Leviticus 25:23

23 “‘The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you reside in my land as foreigners and strangers. 24 Throughout the land that you hold as a possession, you must provide for the redemption of the land.

And then later in Chapter 26

14 “‘But if you will not listen to me and carry out all these commands,
15 and if you reject my decrees and abhor my laws and fail to carry out all my commands and so violate my covenant,
16 then I will do this to you: I will bring on you sudden terror, wasting diseases and fever that will destroy your sight and sap your strength. You will plant seed in vain, because your enemies will eat it.

Apart from Covenant faithfulness to Torah, not the later rabbinical teachings no Israelite had any claim to the land.

This is the same technique used today in the loss of salvation crowd.

There is divine discipline and harsh consequences for believers who do not "follow the rules" but no one is ever excluded from His Promise to Them.

And Israel has His promise.......If they don't. We are not secure in Christ.

 

[HeIsHere]

This is the same technique used today in the loss of salvation crowd.

There is divine discipline and harsh consequences for believers who do not "follow the rules" but no one is ever excluded from His Promise to Them.

And Israel has His promise.......If they don't. We are not secure in Christ.

They do not have a separate promise, the Messiah came as promised, God in spite of their disobedience still fulfilled His promise to them.
They rejected Christ Jesus, you do remember that?

All promises were fulfilled in Christ Jesus.
He is the seed promised to Abraham.
All Israel (all tribes) are saved in Him by faith, like Abraham was saved by faith.

They enter the Kingdom like all the rest of us.

There is no "olam" land promise which extends past the end of the age of the Temple, this deception is being used to conduct war and more war.

 

[ZNP]

They do not have a separate promise, the Messiah came as promised, God in spite of their disobedience still fulfilled His promise to them.
They rejected Christ Jesus, you do remember that?

All promises were fulfilled in Christ Jesus.
He is the seed promised to Abraham.
All Israel (all tribes) are saved in Him by faith, like Abraham was saved by faith.

They enter the Kingdom like all the rest of us.

There is no "olam" land promise which extends past the end of the age of the Temple, this deception is being used to conduct war and more war.

Well then you will have to rip out and discard much of the Old Testament. Psalm 83 describes a coalition of people who attack Israel, are destroyed, turned into chaff never to attack again. That coalition never took place in the past prior to 2023. This war we have witnessed against Israel where at one time they had seven different fronts on the war was precisely described in Psalm 83. It could not possibly have been fulfilled before because according to the prophecy once they are destroyed they will never again attack Israel like that. So your doctrine eliminates Psalm 83.

But that is not all, Jeremiah 49 accurately and precisely describes what just happened to Syria, and what is happening to Iran, including how much they got caught by surprise on day 1 and about how this would be a decapitation of their leaders. So your doctrine also does not include Jeremiah 49.

But that is not all. No way your doctrine can include Ezekiel 38 and 39.

I could go on and on and on. Only those devoid of understanding fall for this doctrine.

Yes, Jesus has replaced all the offerings. Yes, the 2nd Temple has been destroyed. That is what the New Testament says, the covenant with Moses is near to disappearing. But not yet, not until after the 70th week which is known as the Day of the Lord.

 

[HeIsHere]

So how do you describe "the fullness of the gentiles has come in?"

Seems even history would record this amazing and once in a lifetime event!

In context, the fullness is not about quantity but quality, in that the Gentiles are being grafted in as Paul was writing the letter to the Romans.

For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved.

All Israel >>> the righteous remnant at that time.

So contextually, it is their acceptance into the ONE root, along with Israel.

And that “fullness” was not dependent on how many, or how few had accepted the Gospel, is was about equality.

It was their status within the Root that was being debated and at stake, a status that was being resisted by Israel at that time, but, a status that some of them were boasting about, as if they had replaced Israel at that time.

They were claiming that they were now in the predominant position at that time but, Paul was denying that and affirming their equality of standing.

 

[ZNP]

Jeremiah 49:38 And I will set my throne in Elam, and will destroy from thence the king and the princes, saith the Lord.