The war against HCQ has intensified unbelievably

[ev4989]

fine.

but, i say that we should draw the line before we get there.

No, It was me that is for the cure. You have the right to do what you want.

 

[gb9]

oh, and as far as all the " unknown" the u.s. applied for a coronavirus patent in 2015, approved in 2017.

us10130701b2 is the patent number.

and it states that a " vaccine for a infectious bronchitis " is included with the patent.

 

[ev4989]

this is not about going to see a movie, or out to eat somewhere,

this is about letting a government take away indavidual rights and freedoms , of which the population will not get back.

like hawaii is setting up covid checkpoints, with mandatory testing before being allowed to travel oh the h-3 freeway on oahu.

you think that is o k ?? should not the citizens revolt over that??

again, everywhere you see " mask required" will soon say " vaccine required" and then on the el chipo.

and Christians like you will be telling us to shut up and go along with it,

shameful.

I really think when this all started was when the Government enforced seatbelt
laws. Seatbelts are the worst! Don't you think? I don't know why I bothered to
Iron my shirts, It was entirely wrinkled from that darn set belt! And then they came up with the airbag! The seat belt keeps you in place so that the airbag nails you right in the face!
I don't know how many people have got their nose broke from this Probably Millions!!!
All things being equal. I would trade the seatbelt law for the mask . At the very least masks save lives

 

[gb9]

seatbelts are a good example.

a law requiring one to wear a seatbelt is a gateway drug for government control of our everyday lives...

 

[ev4989]

seatbelts are a good example.

a law requiring one to wear a seatbelt is a gateway drug for government control of our everyday lives...

You do know that I was being Ironical, Right?

 

[gb9]

i am being very serious.

Christians should be resisting this, as it will lead to vaccines and microchips being forced by the government....

 

[EleventhHour]

@Moses_Young whats wrong your crazy 5G theory being shown for the silly fringe conspiracy theory it is ... along with viruses not being contagious.

 

[Moses_Young]

how about this- we do not need ' rules",

what we need is accurate numbers and the truth about the death rate.

sweden never did a hard lockdown, never required a mask, and their numbers are pretty much nothing.

hope all you rule followers remember folks like me and others telling you this when the " mask required " goes to " vaccine required" and then to " i d chip required"

will you follow the rules when that comes to pass??

Ha, ha. When the vaccine and chip requirements come in, these people will say, "Well, there's nothing in the bible against medicine like vaccines, and if I'm not doing anything wrong, why should I fear if the government tracks me with a microchip? Why do you want to sin by disobeying the government God has put in place to look after us?"

 

[Moses_Young]

@Moses_Young whats wrong your crazy 5G theory being shown for the silly fringe conspiracy theory it is ... along with viruses not being contagious.

Ha, ha. Where has that been shown? Viruses aren't contagious, and 5G has not been safety tested. The people are rising up against fascism around the world because they've realised what I have been saying all along (that this pandemic is fake), and you're saying my theories were crazy? Lol. Well, the theories weren't mine, but they were 100% right. Are you knocking them now because you realise how wrong you've been?

 

[EleventhHour]

Ha, ha. Where has that been shown? Viruses aren't contagious, and 5G has not been safety tested. The people are rising up against fascism around the world because they've realised what I have been saying all along (that this pandemic is fake), and you're saying my theories were crazy? Lol. Well, the theories weren't mine, but they were 100% right. Are you knocking them now because you realise how wrong you've been?

Only an insecure person goes hitting with all red X's over and over... if you truly could prove what you promote you would need to act like a child over and over, but no worry I can disagree with you too.

 

[Lion222]

HQC was proven ineffective through clinical trials.

Yes but some of those trials are faulty and have been publicly discredited and the finding withdrawn by those who made them.
Why would such a well know group come to such faulty results on such a big issue and then have to publicly retract their statements?

The other trials that show it ineffective are those that only us it in late stages
not during first signs of positive test results which is what is recommend.
Which is what all the positive clinical trials that have shown it very effective have done.
At least that is what the trials I have looked so far seem to be concluding.

But why is it t that references to medical trials being done by professionals are being pulled from public forums?
Of course people are going to suspect the powers that be of something sinister behind censorship.

 

[EleventhHour]

Yes but some of those trials are faulty and have been publicly discredited and the finding withdrawn by those who made them.
Why would such a well know group come to such faulty results on such a big issue and then have to publicly retract their statements?

The other trials that show it ineffective are those that only us it in late stages
not during first signs of positive test results which is what is recommend.
Which is what all the positive clinical trials that have shown it very effective have done.
At least that is what the trials I have looked so far seem to be concluding.

But why is it t that references to medical trials being done by professionals are being pulled from public forums?
Of course people are going to suspect the powers that be of something sinister behind censorship.

If is published it has not been pulled from any public forum.

A few doctors coming out of the woodwork for a few minutes of fame is not science.

Has there been double blind randomized clinical trials. I have not read one... but if you know one I would be curious to read it.

 

[shittim]

Lion- Hexy is very effective when administered as you say, early and proper dosage, has been used for 50+ years. We also notice no talk of building up ones immune system, our mechanized and processed food here in America has led us down the path to fall prey more easily.
Jesus never sent anyone to the Dr. , He is the same yesterday, today and forever, He is outrageously pleased when we grow in Him to seek and receive His healing and health.
Merely knowing about Him is not enough, we are required to be in relationship and let the indwelling Christ have first place with every thought, word and deed. Thinking first of running to the pill seller for anything does not place Him in first place as required.

 

[EleventhHour]

Yes but some of those trials are faulty and have been publicly discredited and the finding withdrawn by those who made them.
Why would such a well know group come to such faulty results on such a big issue and then have to publicly retract their statements?

The other trials that show it ineffective are those that only us it in late stages
not during first signs of positive test results which is what is recommend.
Which is what all the positive clinical trials that have shown it very effective have done.
At least that is what the trials I have looked so far seem to be concluding.

But why is it t that references to medical trials being done by professionals are being pulled from public forums?
Of course people are going to suspect the powers that be of something sinister behind censorship.

I appreciate your rational input... seems hard to find these days on this topic.

 

[Lion222]

If is published it has not been pulled from any public forum.

A few doctors coming out of the woodwork for a few minutes of fame is not science.

Has there been double blind randomized clinical trials. I have not read one... but if you know one I would be curious to read it.

My understanding is that the publications are not pulled or the outcry would be great indeed.
But the more subtle restriction of dissemination of that information to the public by the public is what is going on.
Posts by individuals looking to share the information of those results are what is being censored in my understanding.
If you can not get the word out then it is like it did not even happen.
Which one can only assume would be the motive behind it all.
If you cant win the clinical trials, silence the spread of the information.

But I am not expert, just a science guy who had read the retracted clinical negative study with the big red RETRACTED stamp on every page wondering what is this all about?

 

[Lion222]

Lion- Hexy is very effective when administered as you say, early and proper dosage, has been used for 50+ years. We also notice no talk of building up ones immune system, our mechanized and processed food here in America has led us down the path to fall prey more easily.
Jesus never sent anyone to the Dr. , He is the same yesterday, today and forever, He is outrageously pleased when we grow in Him to seek and receive His healing and health.
Merely knowing about Him is not enough, we are required to be in relationship and let the indwelling Christ have first place with every thought, word and deed. Thinking first of running to the pill seller for anything does not place Him in first place as required.

Pray without ceasing.
In all things Give thanks for it is God will for you.
Whatever it takes God.

 

[Lion222]

I appreciate your rational input... seems hard to find these days on this topic.

Well this is the conspiracy theory thread.

 

[EleventhHour]

My understanding is that the publications are not pulled or the outcry would be great indeed.
But the more subtle restriction of dissemination of that information to the public by the public is what is going on.
Posts by individuals looking to share the information of those results are what is being censored in my understanding.
If you can not get the word out then it is like it did not even happen.
Which one can only assume would be the motive behind it all.
If you cant win the clinical trials, silence the spread of the information.

But I am not expert, just a science guy who had read the retracted clinical negative study with the big red RETRACTED stamp on every page wondering what is this all about?

Not sure which study, please inform which one, there have been retractions on both sides of the argument.

One study that was retracted the author tried to influence the peer reviewers which is a big No, no... as well if it is found out a person has falsified data, a person will retract the study usually willingly to avoid penalties.

No reputable university, research group wants to have someone on staff that has falsified data, that has a terrible outcome for them.

 

[EleventhHour]

Well this is the conspiracy theory thread.

Yeah you are right... I have no idea why I am here, I thought I was in the news section.

Having said that one can still be rational even while analyzing conspiracies I think?

 

[Lion222]

Not sure which study, please inform which one, there have been retractions on both sides of the argument.

One study that was retracted the author tried to influence the peer reviewers which is a big No, no... as well if it is found out a person has falsified data, a person will retract the study usually willingly to avoid penalties.

No reputable university, research group wants to have someone on staff that has falsified data, that has a terrible outcome for them.

Im sure.
It is a environment of trust and if you loose it getting it back is not easy.
I don't recall who did the retracted study I was looking at.
I think I may have posted a link to it in the thread way further back.