theistic evolution - don't try this at home
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Oh so you've decided the dust represents something, rather than God using it to create us. So you have decided you can take the scripture figuratively on man's authority.
You've also decided the creation of Eve is figurative rather than an actual rib. You don't draw this conclusion from scripture, this is a conclusion from man's authority and you have decided to read the scripture figuratively to match it.
Well I'll answer your question, but you have not acknowledge or attempted to answer why complex plant life existed before life in the ocean, when this is completely incompatible with the evolutionary theory you subscribe to. So answer me that, and don't ignore it because you can't talk your way out of it, even with false science.
So if I understand correctly you are asking me why creatures began in the ocean, and the significance of this? Because God started life in the ocean in his decision. Now I won't proclaim to know the mind of God or explain his actions on my own authority. I can make a guess though. Ocean animals live in the ocean, birds fly above the earth, land animals live on land. Humans live on land. It was a perfect progression toward our "living" domain. This is my guess, I'm not claiming it on my own authority or man's, but I do know it occurred in the order described in The Bible on God's authority.
Do you subscribe to the whale evolution? Why does the Bible state God created Whales in the ocean before land animals, yet you subscribe to a theory that states the whale was first a land animal?
There are two possibilities for these incompatible beliefs. Either you don't subscribe to the whale evolutionary chain, or you have deceived yourself into believing The Bible wasn't talking about "those whales" when it literally said whales. You can reject evolution on this matter or you can reject The Bible by forcing figurative or symbolic reading of this literal verse. Which master do you serve?
There is another possibility is that you didn't add the caption that is above that photo were you found the photo, Internet.
here is the caption that goes with the photo to explain that the hippo is not the ancestor of the whale.
The first thing to notice on this evogram is that hippos are the closest living relatives of whales, but they are not the ancestors of whales. In fact, none of the individual animals on the evogram is the direct ancestor of any other, as far as we know. That's why each of them gets its own branch on the family tree.
Hippos are large and aquatic, like whales, but the two groups evolved those features separately from each other. We know this because the ancient relatives of hippos called anthracotheres (not shown here) were not large or aquatic. Nor were the ancient relatives of whales that you see pictured on this tree — such as Pakicetus. Hippos likely evolved from a group of anthracotheres about 15 million years ago, the first whales evolved over 50 million years ago, and the ancestor of both these groups was terrestrial. = breath air
1 Timothy 6:[SUP]20 [/SUP]O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:[SUP]21 [/SUP]Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
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The problem with believing that is you have to abandon and denounce your worldly beliefs and this individual doesn't want to do that.
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You are not interested in the discussion anymore because you have no ground to stand on, and you can't talk your way out of your incompatible beliefs.
You are the one bringing in these outside false science beliefs and working them into the scripture. And you sound like a fool denouncing God's literal word and the existence of the devil as impossible.
It's pathetic you can't defend your science beliefs and run from the discussion, and even more pathetic you deny the scripture and can't explain why.
Play nice, no need for slandering, he didn't say the devil as impossible you know what he meant by (devil, master etc.) he has a valid point many times people will resort to such stuff as (what master you serve) post #147
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Coming from the person that denounces God's literal word as impossible (which you didn't include in your slandering), No I do not "know what he meant". I think someone with his shallow beliefs would think the devil represents something else and not an entity working in our world.
You seem like someone wishing to have a open friendly discussion about evolution and I can appreciate the approach, but I know the foundation is false and evil so I won't be responding or participating.
Well im pretty sure if you look at that post 147 the last statement, I'm thinking he took as sarcasm, what master is he serving, thus the reason in post 152 he made.
As someone who lives in Europe, I am looked at as a pre-historic creature due to rejecting evolution.
I am a country boy through and through. From the backwoods, 100% redneck
They say im a dumb hillbilly that doesn't know what he is talking about. They are only half right, I am a dumb hillbilly that DOES know what he is talking about
I am a country boy through and through. From the backwoods, 100% redneck
They say im a dumb hillbilly that doesn't know what he is talking about. They are only half right, I am a dumb hillbilly that DOES know what he is talking about
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◄ Matthew 6:24 ►
King James Bible
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
He serves worldly beliefs and "the scientific community" and denies the validity of the literal and true interpretation of scripture.
He holds to false scientific beliefs, and denies Biblical beliefs:
As someone who lives in Europe, I am looked at as a pre-historic creature due to rejecting evolution.
I am a country boy through and through. From the backwoods, 100% redneck
They say im a dumb hillbilly that doesn't know what he is talking about. They are only half right, I am a dumb hillbilly that DOES know what he is talking about
That is the beauty about God, people don't need super intelligence to comprehend God and His teaching, just a willing ear to hear is all that is required.
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As someone who lives in Europe, I am looked at as a pre-historic creature due to rejecting evolution.
I am a country boy through and through. From the backwoods, 100% redneck
They say im a dumb hillbilly that doesn't know what he is talking about. They are only half right, I am a dumb hillbilly that DOES know what he is talking about
In America, especially in institutional education settings, you are mocked and regarded as a religious fanatic for denying such strong false and fabricated evidence.
I take being regarded as a "Bible Thumper" or religious fanatic with pride and I'm glad I come off this way, being mocked isn't great but at least I know where I stand with the people.
I personally believe that the creation narrative in Gen 1 describes re-creation after a cataclismic upheaval rather than original creation; but I believe understanding Gen 1 as factual is more important than acceptance of a gap in time between Ge 1:1 and Ge 1:2; and /or between Ge 1:2 and 1:3.
Does scripture say that science is of Evil?
I do know that God taught Noah the science of mechanical engineering, No one in Noah's time knew how to build such a large ship as the ark, a ship of that size requires a properly design and installed keel to even float. So no doubt God showed Noah the whys and how's to building ships, Mechanical engineering.
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You aren't believing or preaching in science, it is false science/lies.
Scripture says lies are evil and references false science.
Do you really think I believe science is evil, or are you trolling or dull? Lies are evil and I've made it clear I reject your "science" because it is a false lie meant to deceive.
Don't "slander" me.
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Quite interesting Genesis is, I'm in belief that Genesis 1:1 is speaking on three times at once, the formation of the universe, the formation of our galaxy and the formation of our solar system, happening at once well with God speed, lol
I feel as Ive been quite nice to you though I sense a lot of hatred in your speech.
You don't believe God showed Naoh the proper making and use of the ships keel???
the bible references false science, please show me the verse?, I'm willing to learn something new each day.
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I feel as Ive been quite nice to you though I sense a lot of hatred in your speech.
You don't believe God showed Naoh the proper making and use of the ships keel???
You aren't being "nice", you are making accusations with no basis.
And you are still doing so. Evolution is not science, it is a lie.