There are no sinful believers, but only unbelieving transgressors.

[Pilgrimshope]

Jhn 8:11
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Jhn 5:14
Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

Mat 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.



It does lead us to not sinning against Him, and instead do what He says to do: Walking in the Spirit, and not after the flesh.

He also says that no man can be sinning against Him, and be walking in the Spirit:

1Jo 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

When any sinner confesses to continued sinning in darkness, they give up any right to preach the good news of what Jesus says and enables us to do: go and sin no more, but rather walk after the Spirit in His light with God and Himself.

Especially, if any such sinner teaches others to be sinners like themselves, and continue to sin in more darkness with them...

Mat 15:14
Let them alone, They be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

“Let them alone, They be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”
That’s what you are seeing ……
“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:35


thats what you can’t see ……what he’s actually talking about …

another example of your flawed method you’ve quoted this for “ sinless perfection “

“Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”

what he’s talking about is the same thing in like 6

“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:44-48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you can’t actually acknowledge what he’s teaching your just plucking out verses to avoid what he’s saying this ….. doesn’t seem good to you

Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.“

doesnt matter how often

“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:1-3, 5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You’re so focused on sin you’re missing what he’s teaching partly because like the Pharisees you’re standing back scoffing at his doctrine trying to support your idea by plucking verses from it …… your missing it and where the freedom comes from

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Declaring that all people are sinners continuing to sin some more, is not just an argument for sin, but is a declaration that all people must continue to sin some more.

2Pe 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

And so is the same declaration, that all people must continue to say they have sin.

Jesus never teaches any man to sin some more, and so to say we have more sin.

Only sinners that sin more, have more sin to confess before the Lord, to be forgiven and cleansed from having any more sin.


Jhn 8:11
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Jhn 5:14
Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

1Jo 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin,

Anything taking away from "don't sin", and adding more to it than "don't sin", only comes from more sinning than "don't sin".

Deu 4:2
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Rom 16:18
And by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

There's no better thing than listening to Jesus teach to sin not, and do those things that glorify God, and not the devil.

James{1:22}
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Confessing and teaching to sin more, may not be hypocrisy, but it certainly isn't better than the teaching of the righteous Lord Jesus, to sin not and do His righteousness:

Psa 106:3
Blessed are they that keep judgment, and he that doeth righteousness at all times.

2Co 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

1 Thess{5:22}
Abstain from all appearance of evil. And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

That's not adding to Jesus' simple teaching to go and sin no more, but only confirms that He that commands it to all men, can also enable any man that repents of more sinning, to also believe and do it.

Mark{1:15}
The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Any man declaring that we are all sinners, who certainly will sin some more, is not preaching the good news of Jesus Christ the righteous, but is only preaching more bad news of another man's sinful religion.

Jas 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God is not sinning; but he that is begotten of God is keeping himself , and that wicked one is not touching him.

Jesus teaches all men to go and sin no more, and Jesus keeps us in His pure religion from sinning some more.

I’m gonna stick you on ignore I don’t have time for this

 

[ATG]

“When anyone stops teaching that we must all be sinners going to sin some more, then we will gladly hear them preach the good news of Jesus teaching and enabling us to go and sin no more.”

It’s like you guys are so focused on other peoples “ sin “ that you have absolutely no knowledge of

Who is it that teaches all Christians are sinners like themselves, and will certainly continue to sin some more?

Pilgrimshope said:
This is of the doctrine because he already knows people are imperfect and will still sometimes sin...
This doesn’t mean we’re free to sin it means that when we do...

Not us, but only you guys. Which is certainly why there are 'you guys' against 'us guys' in Christian religion today.

You guys are the ones so focused on other people must be sinning like you, that refuse absolutely any knowledge of Christian saints not sinning at any time like you.

When you guys start teaching Jesus' commandment to go and sin nor more, and we are not all sinners sinning some more, then you guys and we guys will speak the same thing as Jesus Christ our Lord.

1Co 1:10
Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

That certainly doesn't include the bad judgmentalism, of some Christian sinners judging all Christians to be sinners like themselves.

because you most likely haven’t met anyone your arguing with and accusing of “ promoting sin “

Any man declaring that all people are still sinners, and will still sin some more, is not promoting sin no more to anyone, but only promoting sin for all people.

it’s like you are so focused on what others need to do that you can’t even hear what they are saying but

It’s like you are so focused on what you say others must be doing, that you can’t even hear what you are saying; that they must be doing the same as you.

Pilgrimshope said:
This is of the doctrine because he already knows people are imperfect and will still sometimes sin...
This doesn’t mean we’re free to sin it means that when we do...

You come out and accuse all Christians of being sinners sinning some more like you, and when we Christians object, you then accuse us of being focused on what others need to do.

Like what, repent of your continued sinning against God, and sin no more with Jesus Christ? Now, that is not just what others need to do, but what we all need to do, if any of us are to be justified at His coming, and be resurrected in His likeness.

In the mean time, we reject your doctrine of still sinning some more, which for you is only a matter of when, not if...

And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭15:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That is for the “ discussion “

And the Pharisees and scribes complained, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them., and maketh them to sin no more.

That's not a discusion, but is the only gospel and commandment of Jesus Christ the righteous.

 

[ATG]

if you keep the whole law. yet stumble in one point. your guilty of all

Correct.

since no one can keep the 1st command perfectly.. no one has kept the law.

And so the argument is confirmed: Sinners cannot believe God.

Rom 10:16
But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report…For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;

2Pe 3:3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

1Jo 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and is not keeping his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Rev 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Once again the evil judgmentalism and false accusation of sinners not keeping the first great commandment of the Lord, who also judge and accuse all other people of transgressing His commandments like themselves...

Rev 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
It's the same false accusation of the devil from the beginning against the Lord, who declares God commands that which no man can keep.

Jhn 15:5
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Mat 19:26
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Phl 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

 

[ATG]

You’re so focused on sin you’re missing what he’s teaching

You're so focused on yourself sinning some more, you're missing His teaching to sin no more, and instead accusing everyone of sinning some more like you.

trying to support your idea by plucking verses from it ……

My doctrine of going to sin no more?

Zec 3:2
And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

your missing it and where the freedom comes from

It certainly doesn't come from nor with sinning some more.

Jhn 8:34
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever is committing sin is the servant of sin.

Jhn 8:31
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Jhn 8:26
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Rom 6:18
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God is not sinning; but he that is begotten of God is keeping himself, and that wicked one is not touching him.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

And here we have the hypocrisy doubling down

Certain Christians sinners sit back in their own seats, and judge all Christains must be sinners like themselves.

And then go on to justify their sinning as by grace

Back the truck up where did I state I was a "Christian sinner"? Let's start there and see where your trolling goes from there and see if I'm in the mood to answer.

 

[Freed18]

if we say we have no sin, we decieve ourselves and their is no truth in us.

That verse of 1 John 1, and verses 6 and 10, address those walking in darkness.
They cannot say they have fellowship with God, or that they have no sin.
However, those walking in the light can say yes to both verse 6 and 8.
1 John 2 goes on to make further delineations between those walking in God and those walking in sin.

Even those who walk after the spirit are not perfect. for no one walks after the spirit 24/7

I cannot agree.
It is written..."Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in anything ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you." (Phil 3:15)

"Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:" (Col 1:28)

 

[Freed18]

Amen brother.

But as we see here, such testimony becomes evil news to self justifiers, that are unbelievers in doing righteousness, but only believe in more sinning against the righteous Lord Jesus.

Rev 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Since Jesus says he walked away justified, then we know he wasn't just sorry for his evil, but repented to do no more evil against God and man.

2 Cor 7:10
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorriness of the world worketh death.

All the self justifiers glorify their own faith in themselves, as being honored of God, while walking away to sin more against Him.

The self-justifier stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, righteous, doers of good works, and no evil, or even as this publican, that believes he must repent of doing any unrighteousness at all.

I think my Christ, I'm justified by my faith alone, not by any works I do...

Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

Yes siree.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Correct.

And so the argument is confirmed: Sinners cannot believe God.

Rom 10:16
But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report…For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;

2Pe 3:3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

1Jo 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and is not keeping his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Rev 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Once again the evil judgmentalism and false accusation of sinners not keeping the first great commandment of the Lord, who also judge and accuse all other people of transgressing His commandments like themselves...

Rev 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
It's the same false accusation of the devil from the beginning against the Lord, who declares God commands that which no man can keep.

Jhn 15:5
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Mat 19:26
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Phl 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Not sure how the inability to keep the first command perfectly 24/7 has anything to do with a sinner comming to Jesus.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

That verse of 1 John 1, and verses 6 and 10, address those walking in darkness.
They cannot say they have fellowship with God, or that they have no sin.
However, those walking in the light can say yes to both verse 6 and 8.

no. because no one walks in the light perfectly 24/7

1 John 2 goes on to make further delineations between those walking in God and those walking in sin.

1 John 3 says a child of God can not walk in sin.

there is a huge difference in saying one is walking in sin (their old self) and one who still sins.

I cannot agree.
It is written..."Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in anything ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you." (Phil 3:15)

"Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:" (Col 1:28)

lol. Then you have made it. congrats, you exceded what even paul could not do.

Welcome to heaven

oh wait!!

 

[Freed18]

no. because no one walks in the light perfectly 24/7

I can't agree, as I have been doing it, by the grace of God, for many years.

1 John 3 says a child of God can not walk in sin.

Exactly !
So why did you write the previous sentenc ?

there is a huge difference in saying one is walking in sin (their old self) and one who still sins.

No, there isn't.
Both manifest a lack of repentnace, and a lack of rebirth from God's seed.

lol. Then you have made it. congrats, you exceded what even paul could not do.

I have no doubt that Paul conducted himself honorably until he was murdered.

Welcome to heaven

Heaven will happen for me after the day of judgement, if I remain faithfully obedient for the rest of my life on earth.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

I can't agree, as I have been doing it, by the grace of God, for many years.

The apostle john has a message for you.

if you say you have no sin, you decieve yourself and there is no truth in you.

You want to pat yourself on the back. feel free.. don't expect the rest of us to bow down to you

Exactly !
So why did you write the previous sentenc ?

Walk in sin is not the same as being sinless or perfect. without sin.

No, there isn't.
Both manifest a lack of repentnace, and a lack of rebirth from God's seed.

Yes there is

one who walks in sin is continually in sin, it was they live, they walk

one who has a moment where they stumble and fall is not walking in sin. they do as John said, confess that sin and move on.

I have no doubt that Paul conducted himself honorably until he was murdered.

I have no doubt either. But he did not claim sinless perfection. He was humble before God..

Heaven will happen for me after the day of judgement, if I remain faithfully obedient for the rest of my life on earth.

So heaven will happen for you if you keep obeying

that's the law my friend. that is not grace.

Heaven will happen for me, because my savior died on the cross. and was risen, proving victory over death

 

[ATG]

Back the truck up where did I state I was a "Christian sinner"?

ThereRoseaLamb said:
We are ALL sinners saved by grace. Not one of us is perfect, or attained sinlessness yet.


Since this is a site for Christians, then you need to declare yourself as something else, than a Christians sinner. such as a Muslim, Buddhist, atheist sinner...

And when sinners say that 'we are ALL sinners', without specifying only themselves ebing sinners, then they are condemning ALL people as being sinners like themselves.

Either way, whether wrongly done as a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, atheist..., it's the bad judgmentalism of people judging all others by themselves and their own works.

The least judgmental are the righteouds, because I'v never heard the righteous judge that ALL people are righteous and doing righteousness like themselves...

 

[ATG]

Not sure how the inability to keep the first command perfectly 24/7 has anything to do with a sinner comming to Jesus.

If any sinner repents by the Lord's conviction against transgressing His commandments, then Jesus will recieve them, and give them His power of faith and righteousness to keep His commandments.

Cor {7:10}
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of:

Acts{3:19}
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

No transgressor can please the Father, without repenting for Jesus' sake.

 

[lrs68]

This discussion has ran off track head smack into the realm of denial. Jesus instructed His Disciples to pray a ((daily prayer)) that included both seeking forgiveness and offering forgiveness. Why would Jesus have saved people do such a thing if people can grow to a point of not sinning?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

If any sinner repents by the Lord's conviction against transgressing His commandments, then Jesus will recieve them, and give them His power of faith and righteousness to keep His commandments.

Cor {7:10}
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of:

Acts{3:19}
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

No transgressor can please the Father, without repenting for Jesus' sake.

But noo one keeps the 1st command 24/7

if you think you do. you are deceived, these are johns words not mine

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

This discussion has ran off track head smack into the realm of denial. Jesus instructed His Disciples to pray a ((daily prayer)) that included both seeking forgiveness and offering forgiveness. Why would Jesus have saved people do such a thing if people can grow to a point of not sinning?

exactly

 

[ATG]

no. because no one walks in the light perfectly 24/7

Rom 10:16
But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report…For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;

Transgressors do not know the righteous Lord Jesus, because they cannot believe His gospel of repentance unto salvationa nd righteousness.

1Jo 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and is not keeping his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Mark{1:15}
The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

1 John 3 says a child of God can not walk in sin.

there is a huge difference in saying one is walking in sin (their old self) and one who still sins.

There's a great gulf between sinners still sinning, and the righteious keeping the Lord's commandments.

And there's an even greater gulf between another gospel of moral relativism for sinners, and the gospel of rightousness through Jesus Christ.

Gal 1:6
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

I cannot agree.
It is written..."Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in anything ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you." (Phil 3:15)

"Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:" (Col 1:28)

lol. Then you have made it. congrats, you exceded what even paul could not do.

2Pe 3:3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

Jde 1:18
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

 

[ATG]

This discussion has ran off track head smack into the realm of denial.

Exactly. Not one single sinner preaching continued sinning, addresses the orginal argument made from the Scriptures.

Only believers are doing God's righteousness, and only unbelievers are sinning against God.

If we believers do God's righteousness, we do well.

Jas 2:8
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

But, if we believers sin against God, we make ourselves unbelievers:

Jas 2:8
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Jesus instructed His Disciples to pray a ((daily prayer)) that included both seeking forgiveness and offering forgiveness.

If we sin as the unbelievers, then we must confess to the Lord to be forgiven and believe in His righteousness.

If any man sins against us, we ought also to forgive them, even as the Lord has forgiven us.

Jesus instructs His people to pray and keep a pure heart to forgive trespasses of others against us. He does not instruct His people to keep trespassing.

Why would Jesus have saved people do such a thing if people can grow to a point of not sinning?

Mat 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Jhn 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Jesus would not save people from sinning, if His people continue to be sinning. Jesus is not a liar, but only sinners lie against His gospel of righteousness:

Rom 10:16

But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report…For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;

The sinners' gospel of ciontinued sinning, is not Jesus' gospel of doing His righteousness.

Sinners only speak of themselves and the sinning they know. The righteous only speak of knowing the Lord and doing His righteousness.

1Jo 4:5
They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Rom 10:16
But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report…For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;

Transgressors do not know the righteous Lord Jesus, because they cannot believe His gospel of repentance unto salvationa nd righteousness.

1Jo 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and is not keeping his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Mark{1:15}
The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.


There's a great gulf between sinners still sinning, and the righteious keeping the Lord's commandments.

And there's an even greater gulf between another gospel of moral relativism for sinners, and the gospel of rightousness through Jesus Christ.

Gal 1:6
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.






2Pe 3:3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

Jde 1:18
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

if we say we have no sin, we decieve ourselves and there is no truth in us

You want to be decieved, feel free.

But don;t expect me or others to pat you on the back because you think you have made it to where paul himself did not even make it