There will be no Rapture!!!
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Your reasoning in this matter is flawed.
1. Are there no mature scholars today, because many do indeed believe in the pre tribulation rapture.
2. How do you know what all scholars believed before 1800
3. The New Testament was written about 2000 years ago and since it clearly declares the rapture, the doctrine is 2000 years old.
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.- - Rev 3:10
1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. - Matt 25:1-13
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. - 1 These 4:13-18
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. - Matthew 24:40-42
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. – Matthew 22:11-13
There are more. Revelation is of course a big clue. Who are all those people in heaven from Revelation 4 through 19.
1. Are there no mature scholars today, because many do indeed believe in the pre tribulation rapture.
2. How do you know what all scholars believed before 1800
3. The New Testament was written about 2000 years ago and since it clearly declares the rapture, the doctrine is 2000 years old.
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.- - Rev 3:10
1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. - Matt 25:1-13
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. - 1 These 4:13-18
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. - Matthew 24:40-42
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. – Matthew 22:11-13
There are more. Revelation is of course a big clue. Who are all those people in heaven from Revelation 4 through 19.
You do not understand the parable.
What do you do in the field? You work.
What do you do at the mill? You work.
- The master left, and told us keep working until he returns, and when He returns he better find you working.
But he’s not going to find you working, because you will have left.
So who is the wise servant?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
What do you do in the field? You work.
What do you do at the mill? You work.
- The master left, and told us keep working until he returns, and when He returns he better find you working.
But he’s not going to find you working, because you will have left.
So who is the wise servant?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
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Again, you are incorrect.
Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
“I also will KEEP”
The phrase “will keep” is τηρέω
It means to watch over, to guard
: I keep, guard, observe, watch over.
hold fast, keep
From teros (a watch; perhaps akin to theoreo); to guard (from loss or injury, properly, by keeping the eye upon
Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
“I also will KEEP”
The phrase “will keep” is τηρέω
It means to watch over, to guard
: I keep, guard, observe, watch over.
hold fast, keep
From teros (a watch; perhaps akin to theoreo); to guard (from loss or injury, properly, by keeping the eye upon
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Again - 9 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days.
This is not speaking of a pregnant woman, you will notice that no gender is implied, and it is speaking in a plural sense. This is referring to those who have been spiritually impregnated in their mind with the mark of the beast, those who have been spiritually impregnated and are therefore "spiritually with child" when the True Bridegroom Christ returns. That is to say, those who are worshiping antichrist when the true Christ returns.
And them that "give suck" are not nursing mothers, but rather those that are nursing the great apostasy, by doing the work of satan, in that they teach that antichrist is the True Christ - thus helping satan to deceive the world, albeit, that most will be doing it in ignorance. You could liken it to your going on a long journey and when you return to your wife she is nursing a baby that she had by another. (it will be an approximately 2000 year journey for Christ, and when He returns, His Bride (the Church) will be with another savior - the false savior, the antichrist).
Notice- 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
How can you endure to the end if you're not hear?
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Flee? Shouldn’t these people have been raptured?
This is not speaking of a pregnant woman, you will notice that no gender is implied, and it is speaking in a plural sense. This is referring to those who have been spiritually impregnated in their mind with the mark of the beast, those who have been spiritually impregnated and are therefore "spiritually with child" when the True Bridegroom Christ returns. That is to say, those who are worshiping antichrist when the true Christ returns.
And them that "give suck" are not nursing mothers, but rather those that are nursing the great apostasy, by doing the work of satan, in that they teach that antichrist is the True Christ - thus helping satan to deceive the world, albeit, that most will be doing it in ignorance. You could liken it to your going on a long journey and when you return to your wife she is nursing a baby that she had by another. (it will be an approximately 2000 year journey for Christ, and when He returns, His Bride (the Church) will be with another savior - the false savior, the antichrist).
Notice- 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
How can you endure to the end if you're not hear?
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Flee? Shouldn’t these people have been raptured?
Think about this:
LOT:
Lot "SAW" the people of Sodom go into a frenzy trying to Rape/have Same Sex with the Angels, then LOT SAW, those people GO BLIND...BEFORE He was instructed to leave. But he clearly HEARD their screams, the destruction, the damage by the falling sulfur, etc.
So LOT SAW the LAST SIN and the Beginning of Destruction:
NOAH:
Noah "SAW" the people DENY GOD's Warning and Invitation to enter the Ark. And then NOAH SAW the Rain fall, the people go into a frenzy begging to enter the Ark and screaming for their lives.
So NOAH SAW the LAST SIN and the Beginning of Destruction:
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and now, Jesus says, the Tribulation will be much like LOT and NOAH in how people were living and then comes "sudden" DESTRUCTION.
If we follow LOT and NOAH, we will see the LAST SIN [thinking the AC/Beast is God and worship it as God] or [Take the MARK] and then if we're Removed, it will be right before DESTRUCTION Coming. But this puts us well into the 2nd Half of Tribulation and like LOT and NOAH out of WRATH's Literal HARM.
LOT:
Lot "SAW" the people of Sodom go into a frenzy trying to Rape/have Same Sex with the Angels, then LOT SAW, those people GO BLIND...BEFORE He was instructed to leave. But he clearly HEARD their screams, the destruction, the damage by the falling sulfur, etc.
So LOT SAW the LAST SIN and the Beginning of Destruction:
NOAH:
Noah "SAW" the people DENY GOD's Warning and Invitation to enter the Ark. And then NOAH SAW the Rain fall, the people go into a frenzy begging to enter the Ark and screaming for their lives.
So NOAH SAW the LAST SIN and the Beginning of Destruction:
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and now, Jesus says, the Tribulation will be much like LOT and NOAH in how people were living and then comes "sudden" DESTRUCTION.
If we follow LOT and NOAH, we will see the LAST SIN [thinking the AC/Beast is God and worship it as God] or [Take the MARK] and then if we're Removed, it will be right before DESTRUCTION Coming. But this puts us well into the 2nd Half of Tribulation and like LOT and NOAH out of WRATH's Literal HARM.
Wrong again buddy. Spatially OUT OF the PLACE-TIME-CAUSE of the tribulation, the location being the abode of the "earth dwellers" THE PLANET EARTH.
We are long gone, seen in heaven in Rev ch 4 & 5 as the 24 Elders.
Rev 3:10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from G1537 the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
ἐκ ek, ek
Outline of Biblical Usage
ἐκ ek, ek; a primary preposition denoting origin (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, or cause; literal or figurative; direct or remote):—
We are long gone, seen in heaven in Rev ch 4 & 5 as the 24 Elders.
Rev 3:10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from G1537 the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
ἐκ ek, ek
Outline of Biblical Usage
- out of, from, by, away from
ἐκ ek, ek; a primary preposition denoting origin (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, or cause; literal or figurative; direct or remote):—
Revelation 3:10 was written to the church of Philadelphia.
I have not added anything… observe.
Revelation 3:10
ὅτι ἐτήρησας τὸν λόγον τῆς ὑπομονῆς μου κἀγώ σε “τηρήσω” ἐκ τῆς ὥρας τοῦ πειρασμοῦ τῆς μελλούσης ἔρχεσθαι ἐπὶ τῆς οἰκουμένης ὅλης πειράσαι τοὺς κατοικοῦντας ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς
“ τηρήσω” me giving you a definition to a word is not adding. You thought the word meant keep as utilized in the English, it does not.
Word Origin
from a prim. word téros (a guard)
Definition
to watch over, to guard
I have not added anything… observe.
Revelation 3:10
ὅτι ἐτήρησας τὸν λόγον τῆς ὑπομονῆς μου κἀγώ σε “τηρήσω” ἐκ τῆς ὥρας τοῦ πειρασμοῦ τῆς μελλούσης ἔρχεσθαι ἐπὶ τῆς οἰκουμένης ὅλης πειράσαι τοὺς κατοικοῦντας ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς
“ τηρήσω” me giving you a definition to a word is not adding. You thought the word meant keep as utilized in the English, it does not.
Word Origin
from a prim. word téros (a guard)
Definition
to watch over, to guard
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The rapture is when the Hesalian species of aliens teleport us to their homeworld.
JK. The rapture is when Jesus returns, not space aliens, though we will not know the hour or the date, or if the rapture happens pre or post trib. It is best that we focus on the now, and try to help those around us, such as the poor, and help those who have turned away from Christ return, and accept Jesus into their hearts.
JK. The rapture is when Jesus returns, not space aliens, though we will not know the hour or the date, or if the rapture happens pre or post trib. It is best that we focus on the now, and try to help those around us, such as the poor, and help those who have turned away from Christ return, and accept Jesus into their hearts.
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