THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

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Fallen Stones do not mark the temple location, WHY?

All the stones were TORN UP in ancient Jerusalem, and stock piled. WHY?

Because they new there were going to have to use those STONES to build the ROMAN CITY that replaced Jerusalem, called:


Wikipedia

Main Street Aelina Capitolina.

There is where your building blocks or stones from Ancient Jerusalem were FINALLY used for.

Franny the Tour Guide for the City of David, once said, if your looking for something from the old city, IT IS NOT UP THERE IN WHAT THEY CALL THE OLD CITY, IT IS HERE IN THE CITY OF DAVID.

Please learn to read History Books along with the Bible.
Without a knowledge of History, you will keep on embarrassing yourself.

 

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Fallen Stones do not mark the temple location, WHY?

All the stones were TORN UP in ancient Jerusalem, and stock piled. WHY?

Because they new there were going to have to use those STONES to build the ROMAN CITY that replaced Jerusalem, called:

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Wikipedia

Main Street Aelina Capitolina.

There is where your building blocks or stones from Ancient Jerusalem were FINALLY used for.

Franny the Tour Guide for the City of David, once said, if your looking for something from the old city, IT IS NOT UP THERE IN WHAT THEY CALL THE OLD CITY, IT IS HERE IN THE CITY OF DAVID.

Please learn to read History Books along with the Bible.
Without a knowledge of History, you will keep on embarrassing yourself.

The only one continuing to embarrass themselves is you.

This short video debunks what you and "Franny the tour guide" says.
Aelina Capitolina was built to the west and north of the Temple mount and after using stones from the temple (that they used as a rock quarry), THE TEMPLE MOUNT was PLOWED and made into farmland. Just as the Bible says.

 

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"A large Temple of Jupiter and a statue of Hadrian STOOD ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT".

Look, at some point, you have to admit you are wrong, put down your dogmatic belief about where you erroneously think the Temple once stood and come to believe in the true location. God preserved the Temple Mount location. You are undoing His work. Now stop it.
I tried to be nice in the beginning, but this thread has gone on long enough. Enough with the lies. You need to be called out on them.

 

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St. Jerome the 4th/early 5th century theologian mentions the temple of Jupiter standing on the Temple Mount and a marble statue of Venus on the rock where the crucifixion took place

’Where once was the temple and the reverence of God, there is a statue of Hadrian, and an image of Jupiter has been erected.’​

....But "Franny the Tour Guide" knows best, right?!

 

[VCO]

Here is the ULTIMATE PROOF, and unless you were raised on a Dairy Farm, with that kind of BIG STINK, you will not understand it.


Count them for yourself, and KNOW, that Caesar gave orders that Every Legion had to have 300 Horses, in the the SAME BUILDING with the Cavalry; with no more than one floor where the Cavalry sleep. Read History Book TOO.

That BIG STINK requiring that much Ventilation, is the Roman X Cavalry with 300 Horses below on the Ground Floor. That is full PROOF that this Complex was all 100% ROMAN X LEGION's Fortress Antonia. I know what that BIG STINK smells like, I was raised on a dairy farm.

 

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It is OBVIOUS, this place was deliberately build for the ROMAN X LEGION, with their 300 HORSES and appropriate Ventilation System. Right above the I in OBVIOUS, is the first one I see. So that STABLE ROOM probably runs from that point of number 1 Vent, clear down to that Southeast Corner, in the lighter grey color and across half ways. All of that had BIG VENTS built into the exterior walls along the east wall and south wall.

It is 100% Proof that the FORTRESS was built for the ROMAN ARMY, but almost NO City Dweller would even think of it. If you still Doubt me, then Plan a Vacation to western Nebraska, during the early part August. Just a couple miles east of Ogallala on I-80, is a huge Stockyard, on the south side of the Interstate Highway. Roll the windows down, and breath in that BIG STINK, until you are CONVINCED that no one would every want that SMELL to creep into the TEMPLE OF THE LORD above that BIG STINK, coming up those VENTS from 300 HORSES.

OBVIOUSLY THE TEMPLE WAS ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE OPHEL.

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The difference in Shields was determined, where each soldier was from.

 

[VCO]

I meant to changed that Right above the S in Stink, the first line under the last picture of the LAST Post #3,145.

 

[Radius]

You're just trolling me now, stop. You know I have presented more than enough evidence that shows the Temple was on the Temple Mount.

 

[VCO]

Stop trying to high jack this Thread, just to try to talk about what you want talk about. Start your own THREAD!

 

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Here are others that are absolutely convinced that the TEMPLE is on the OPHEL:

http://templemountlocation.com/fortAntonia.html

 

[VCO]

Found something interesting on all the Posts in that Picture of X and the K visible on it.

Yes the X stands for ROMAN X CAVALRY, the K is a symbol amongst European that are Equestrians to mark a place for the Emperor/King to reserve it for the Emperor.
It is called a Kaisar It was used throughout Europe, so that everyone would recognize it no matter what Language they spoke. But the new information is in this Picture:


What are all the yellow arrows pointing at? I know, and it is obvious to me. That is where the Tethering Rings were installed. You hand Drilled the Stone blocks in, and carefully pound their spikes into the hole.

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Now the JEWS did not REMOVE THESE TETHERING RINGS, they were Exiled to a foreign County. "GET OUT NOW, or be KILLED, your Choice." So the Roman Army had to remove them, in 637 AD, when they were Defeated by the Arabs. When they saw DEFEAT was inevitable, they sent a crew with sledge hammers, with the attitude, "You do not leave the Arabs anything of Value." Why the Placement of the Tethering Rings on the LEFT SIDE. Most Soldiers were Right handed, so you would place them on the left side, so that one blow with a sledgehammer would loosen the ring, or break it out as the picture Clearly shows. You had to have an extra Tethering Rings for Guests. I would guess about 324 Posts would be sufficient, for the 300 of the ROMAN X Cavalry, with 24 for GUESTS. YES, the ENTIRE TOP OF MT. MORIAH WAS FORTRESS ANTONIA.

The second Lower Hill on Mt. Moriah (Mt. ZION) was the Home of the Jewish TEMPLE. WHY? You have to have running Water, to Cleanse Everything in the TEMPLE, according to JEWISH LAW a Cistern IS NOT LIVING WATER, Only a River or A Spring IS.
Thanks to what is know now as WARRENS SHAFT, running water flows inside the TEMPLE on the OPHEL in the DAY, which is the REAL MT. ZION.

 

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I am going to quote an article by Lois Tverberg. She does not say, but I think she is Jewish Believer in CHRIST.
She wrote an article entitled:

QUOTE:
What is Living Water?
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Out of this arose the idea of living water, or mayim chaim (MY-eem KHY-eem), which refers to water in the form of rain or flowing from a natural spring, which has come directly from God, not carried by human hands or stored in cisterns. It also is a contrast to sea water, especially that of the Dead Sea, which looks refreshing but is poisonous, and makes the land around it barren.
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END QUOTE:

THAT IS THE MAJOR REASONING BEHIND THERE IS NO LIVING WATER UP TOP OF THE SO-CALLED TEMPLE MOUNT. EVEN THE JEWS HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT REASONING. THE SIPHON SPRING OF GIHON CAN PUMP WATER UP TO THE OPHEL (MOUNT ZION), BUT NO FARTHER, DO TO INSUFFICIENT WATER PRESSURE, WHEN THE TWO BOTTOM HOLES ARE PLUGGED. YOU CANNOT HAND CARRY IT THE REST OF THE WAY, NOR STORE IT IN CISTERNS. IT'S EXIT HOLE IS WHERE GOD PUT IT IN THE TEMPLE ITSELF.

 

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We Christians do not replace the Jews; what the early Church did was to join with the Jewish believers, we were grafted in, as Paul tell us in Romans 11:13-24
The Kingdom was taken from the ethnic Israel peoples and given to the peoples who bear the proper fruit. Matthew 21:4
The only way a Jew can again join in the Kingdom, is by becoming Christian. But if they still refuse Jesus, then they face Judgment and punishment, as many prophesies tell us; Jeremiah 12:14, Zephaniah 1:1-18, Isaiah 22:1-16, and only a remnant will be saved. Romans 9:27


Is that the smart thing to do?
Just ignore the prophecies that conflict with your beliefs?
Will that make them to not happen, all those vividly described prophecies about the end times?

As for a new Temple, many scriptures confirm that there will be another Temple in the future and it will be the Lords Christian peoples who will build it.

What about His everlasting covenant?

 

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No the Christians have an eternal covenant, the Jews have an earthly covenant. His earthly covenant with the JEWS is still in effect. But is is not what they expect, nor probably you. It has always been a Love Covenant on both. NOT BY WORKS, but it is because we LOVE HIM and they too, is because they Love him. This FALSE TEACHING that we become Spiritual Israelites, in my opinion, is baloney.

HE told Israelites they are his Chosen Nation.

He told us we are his Chosen Children.

 

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LIVING WATER.

Is anybody Reading this that is a Jew, or perhaps a Messianic Jew; that would like to do a very short Research for me ? ? ?
It has to do with Living Water, which is Spring or River Water. I want to know When does the Spring water become Unusable in the Temple, because it is no longer Usable in the Temple, as it is no longer considered Living Water?

I know about the Cisterns, they cannot be used.

I found a site that a long time ago, that Said it cannot be carried in buckets, it has to be Channeled, so that by time it reaches the TEMPLE, it still is RUNNING WATER? I lost the site, and so QUOTE the Book where you found it. I will give it the respect I that LAW deserves.

Any other RULES about Living Water you find, would be useful.

 

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I was looking for more info on Living Water, and found something so interesting in an old post about 2 years ago, so I updated it:


That left red line on the Black and Yellow OPHEL tag I put in, was where the photo from 1857 was that showed that the ground was clear out to that left red line, at that time. In 1867 is when Sir Charles Warren said the OPEL Gatehouse Tower, 75 feet tall, had fallen into the Kidron Valley. But in 1857 Photo, the Gatehouse Tower was GONE. There was major earthquake in the early 1860's so I figure that must have been the earthquake the toppled the Tower. But it must have laid on ground, and then when that one HIT, the Ruins fell into the Kidron. Their was a Major Earthquake in 1834 that hit Jerusalem HARD, if I remember right, so that may have been the one that toppled the Tower.

That red X is were I think the TOWER WAS.

Now look at the Drop Off point just about 1860.

Now that lone Tree in the right Circle was close to where the OPHEL Tower was. Right on the east edge of the right Circle.

Now look at the top picture once more. They Lost an incredible piece of ground in the early 1860's earthquake. That new farm house next to the Orange arrow, was completely GONE, and about half that purple right Circle, in that same earthquake.

 

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I was starting to wright a guy that wanted to know what Mission I was in, and crashed my computer before it got sent. Haven't been in the actually Mission Field. But I was a Volunteer Protestant Chaplain for 15 years of my life. I remember a Prayer Partner and he also wanted to be in the Prison Ministry. We would get together every Saturday Morning and pray for everyone on our prayer life, and then when we got done with that, Jim would pray that God could use him in the Prison Ministry. And I would pray that GOD could use me in the Mission Field.

And GOD ANSWERED OUR PRAYERS. Jim and his wife and kids when to the Amazon, and I when to the Prison Ministry. The exact opposite of what we were praying for. We forgot that GOD wanted us to Pray for each OTHER.

 

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I wasn't going to use this picture that I found on the internet, because in their Drawing they made a couple noticeable errors, that you can indent in modern photographs, But I decided to use it after I edited the errors out. It looks to me like the exit is in the Wall or very near the wall that separates Women's Court from the Men's Court.




That drawing of the TEMPLE, would be placed on the green grass below, green line is supposed to be grass.

I extended the line on a picture from about 1860, to show where the drop off point in was before the earthquake in the early 1860's
was for sure, and by 1867 Sir Charles Warren said the TOWER half ways between the so-called Temple Mount and the Temple on the OPHEL were all GONE. So the earthquake in 1834 must have dropped the Ophel Gate House and loosened the Rock Bedrock. So the farmers may have dropped chunks the rubble off CLIFF, to the Kidron Valley.


That is how much ground they Lost on that upper Farm, The green Line is where it is today,
Farm House and a lot of his Potato Field.

 

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OOPS, I found a Typo on line 4 of the bottom quote from Josephus. Sorry, it is my mistake. I used bold type in capitol letters, for two reason, it took up more space, and also I wanted to emphasize the THEY was referring to the Jews of his day.

 

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Here is an idea for those who genuinely believe in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture.

Arrange your Icons so that somewhere near the center of your Icons, is the HELP, that those left behind,
Can easily find the Help they will desperately NEED. Bible Software, Favorite Hymns, and directions of
what not to do, and what to do; will be an encouragement to them. They Need to know they most likely
will become Martyred Saints. Tribulation Saints are most likely all Martyred Saints. Be sure they know this.

I feel time is very short.

Revelation 6:9-11 (NASB)
9 When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained;
10 and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"
11 And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a little while longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be completed also.