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We all understood about the claims and warnings that Donald Trump will be the Anti-Christ and this was apparently written by someone else, but when a few fundamental flaws were pointed out that immediately ruled Trump out as possible candidate for AntiChrist, you try to ignore it and continue with your stance and position on the matter.
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VioletReigns
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Not weird, not unnecessary. Thank you for posting that. My dear brother was a street preacher in Philadelphia for years. Not one who shouted sermons from the corner, but one who went around giving away warm gloves, coats, coffee, whatever just to get a chance to share Jesus with the poor and homeless. Every single time someone in my family gave him a gift for his birthday or Christmas, he'd always wind up giving it to someone on the street so he could tell them about Jesus.
God used him to bring many to Christ.
I love my brother. My younger son is so much like him, too - bless God!
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Paintjob
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I've not seem anything ruling him out. I heard the Muslim Middle east thing. I answered with the Vegas example. What else is there? I forwarded the 13 examples listed here to a neutral person and he said yep, every one points to Trump buy he didn't think Trump was because all generations think they live in end times. I pointed out that there have never been nukes until last 75 years. Now Oran probably has them. At least he could see the 13 examples match Trump
Nobody here has admitted even one does.
Nobody here has admitted even one does.
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VioletReigns
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JesusistheChrist
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That's uplifting to hear. Thanks for sharing it.Not weird, not unnecessary. Thank you for posting that. My dear brother was a street preacher in Philadelphia for years. Not one who shouted sermons from the corner, but one who went around giving away warm gloves, coats, coffee, whatever just to get a chance to share Jesus with the poor and homeless. Every single time someone in my family gave him a gift for his birthday or Christmas, he'd always wind up giving it to someone on the street so he could tell them about Jesus.
God used him to bring many to Christ.
In my street preaching days (I've seriously been considering and praying about the possibility that God is calling me back to the streets), I was somewhere in between. I preached with a small group of others with a sound system and speakers on poles, but I didn't necessarily "shout" at the people. Instead, I tried to reason with them about God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, Satan, sin, death, judgment, etc...pretty much the whole gamut. We didn't lean towards giving out clothes and the like because we were pretty poor ourselves and because a lot of other churches did that type of thing already, but we did give out boxes worth of Bibles, teaching videos, teaching cassettes (they were still used in that day), thousands of tracts, etc. and I paid for it all from my own pocket, as poor as I was myself. I never felt so alive as I did during that time in that I felt that I was doing what God had created me to do. Our group disbanded when different people moved out of state and the such, but I've been feeling some stirrings of late which lead me to seriously consider that it might be time for "Round 2" soon. If so, then by God's grace, I'll answer the call. Laws have gotten a lot stricter than they were back then and if I do hit the streets again, then there's a good chance that I'll wind up being arrested for "hate crimes". Nowadays, you cannot speak out openly against certain sins without being branded a criminal.
The "hate crime" thing is so sad but true. A real shame. Keep fighting the good fight!!!
Over the years the label (“The Antichrist”) has been pinned on countless people some believe it was Nero suggesting that it’s over with (along the lines of Preterism). Most futurists believe it is some future boogeyman that will eventually rule the world. People are continuously trying to guess who “The Antichrist” will be. Scripture defines antichrist as those who believe not in the only begotten Son of God, 1Jn 2:22, 1Jn 4:3, and 2Jn 1:7.The misapplication of the term has taken the focus of all the antichrists that surround us. Meanwhile there are between 1.2 and 1.5 (depending on the source) antichrists in Islam alone not counting the atheists etc.. and the list goes on.
Not only has the improper application of the term taken the focus off the literally billions of antichrists from John’s day forward, it has also made the church (with it’s failed predictions on who the antichrist is) look like a bunch of superstitious clowns to those outside the church who continue to laugh at the failed predictions.
By the articles of their faith Muslims deny that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God therefore making them antichrist as defined by scripture.
Not only has the improper application of the term taken the focus off the literally billions of antichrists from John’s day forward, it has also made the church (with it’s failed predictions on who the antichrist is) look like a bunch of superstitious clowns to those outside the church who continue to laugh at the failed predictions.
By the articles of their faith Muslims deny that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God therefore making them antichrist as defined by scripture.
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Paintjob
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AstridK
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Paintjob, I would like to come in here and give you a list of someone else who fits any of the criteria for being the AntiChrist but I can't. I can't because YOU'RE RIGHT. When DT started running, I thought there was no way he would even win and that what he says and does most of the time is idiotic so how could enough people out there even take him seriously enough to vote for him? Then I saw how so many people, after listening to the stupid things he says follow him like sheep anyway. Then I started to get worried-not because I thought he was the AntiChrist, but because I feel he is grossly insensitive and out-of-the-loop in really knowing and understanding people. At the very least, he is a bully.
He first gained recognition in the 1980's. I was a teenager then and mostly I thought he was a jackass and didn't give him much attention. I couldn't understand why some people admired him. I guess it just goes to the American Dream. We admire those that have a lot of money (often, no matter what they do good or bad) because it is proof of the American Dream which pretty much states those with lots of money are winners and those without are losers. We equate money with value as a person when it really has nothing to do with being a true success. Then DT started out with his show and I didn't watch it regularly although I have seen snippets of it which just validated what I thought of him in the first place. I've seen him make decisions that ALWAYS serve money and power. I mean, he always places money and power above people EVERY SINGLE TIME. Money is a means. It is supposed to serve people-not the other way around. Things DT does are the definition of evil--the love of money is the root of all evil.
But still, I just thought he would lose his following and not get elected. Then sometime in about the last month, I saw him on the news and it was like a light went off in my head that just said "AntiChrist". It was like being told something and it didn't come from me. Anyone here can say that at some point in their life they have had moments where they felt like God (or the Holy Spirit) was giving them something that would help them in some way and having the distinct feeling like it came from somewhere/someone else. That's what it was like. I'm 50 but I've never before had a feeling or belief that anyone was the AntiChrist. I'm not a very religious person. The last time I went to church was about six months ago.
I respect that some people in here are older than me and in having lived longer have seen this happen many times before wherein people start accusing this person or that person of being the AntiChrist but there's one thing I noticed and that is that with Biblical prophecies, since they are prophecies from God, eventually those that state that it is happening now and start identifying events and people as fitting into those prophecies, those people who speak about it will finally be right.
I found this article written by a Randall Russell: Is Donald Trump The Antichrist In his article, he speaks about DT as the AntiChrist, highlighting some of the criteria that is similar to Paintjob's. One of the things he says about DT origins I found interesting and it may speak to some of the responses Paintjob is getting here:
Here he posts biblical passages about that. And then,
And also:
I think Paintjob is on to something, and if he is right, it is important to be aware of the possibility that DT is the AntiChrist because it will help those that hear it to stay on a good path. It is important to be aware of who and what DT really is in order to not get sucked into his schemes.
He first gained recognition in the 1980's. I was a teenager then and mostly I thought he was a jackass and didn't give him much attention. I couldn't understand why some people admired him. I guess it just goes to the American Dream. We admire those that have a lot of money (often, no matter what they do good or bad) because it is proof of the American Dream which pretty much states those with lots of money are winners and those without are losers. We equate money with value as a person when it really has nothing to do with being a true success. Then DT started out with his show and I didn't watch it regularly although I have seen snippets of it which just validated what I thought of him in the first place. I've seen him make decisions that ALWAYS serve money and power. I mean, he always places money and power above people EVERY SINGLE TIME. Money is a means. It is supposed to serve people-not the other way around. Things DT does are the definition of evil--the love of money is the root of all evil.
But still, I just thought he would lose his following and not get elected. Then sometime in about the last month, I saw him on the news and it was like a light went off in my head that just said "AntiChrist". It was like being told something and it didn't come from me. Anyone here can say that at some point in their life they have had moments where they felt like God (or the Holy Spirit) was giving them something that would help them in some way and having the distinct feeling like it came from somewhere/someone else. That's what it was like. I'm 50 but I've never before had a feeling or belief that anyone was the AntiChrist. I'm not a very religious person. The last time I went to church was about six months ago.
I respect that some people in here are older than me and in having lived longer have seen this happen many times before wherein people start accusing this person or that person of being the AntiChrist but there's one thing I noticed and that is that with Biblical prophecies, since they are prophecies from God, eventually those that state that it is happening now and start identifying events and people as fitting into those prophecies, those people who speak about it will finally be right.
I found this article written by a Randall Russell: Is Donald Trump The Antichrist In his article, he speaks about DT as the AntiChrist, highlighting some of the criteria that is similar to Paintjob's. One of the things he says about DT origins I found interesting and it may speak to some of the responses Paintjob is getting here:
Here he posts biblical passages about that. And then,
And also:
I think Paintjob is on to something, and if he is right, it is important to be aware of the possibility that DT is the AntiChrist because it will help those that hear it to stay on a good path. It is important to be aware of who and what DT really is in order to not get sucked into his schemes.
Funny. Not even close to Bible Scripture in God's Word about the coming pseudo-Christ who will play God sitting in a temple in JERUSALEM, not the U.S.A.
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Lost_sheep
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People have been applying the "anti-Christ" label to politicians since we've had politicians in existence. Same for kings, popes, computers. The mental gymnastics people go through to justify their labeling of someone is truly mind boggling. It's almost, but not quite, as interesting as watching people try to discern Daniel's time-line to come up with dates for Judgment Day that never come to fruition.
Everyone needs a hobby though I suppose. Some people collect stamps. Others like to bake. Some like to twist Scripture and try to figure out who Satan's agent will be. Different strokes for different folks.
Everyone needs a hobby though I suppose. Some people collect stamps. Others like to bake. Some like to twist Scripture and try to figure out who Satan's agent will be. Different strokes for different folks.
Anyone who denies Jesus Christ has the spirit of antiChrist. That is Scriptural.
1 John 2:22-23
"Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who acknowledges the Son has the Father also."
1 John 4:2-3
"By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world."
I had thought I had read about every ridiculous posting about the Antichrist until this offering turned up. For heavens sake at least wait until you know who the next President is before speculating whether they are the Antichrist. Better still get a life.
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It appears to me that the ruler of the last days will arise in the Middle east. It is extremely doubtful whether he will be American!
Oh, don't post scripture, that only throws a wrench in their imaginary man doctrine. LOL!
Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
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Another one who all of a sudden pointing the finger out at someone to be Antichrist. Lets examine this Scripture 1 John 4: 3 " but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world"
Now lets read the last part of the verse where it says: Which you have heard is coming and AND EVEN NOW IS ALREADY IN THE WORLD! Helloooooo, already in the world!
Donald Trump was not born when that scripture was written. If he was he looks real good for his age.
People are quick to point finger and say oh he the next Antichrist, down the line, people will say oh now he is the Antichrist. Why don't you people stop pointing the finger and concentrate on your own walk with God. Isn't pointing the finger is an act of judging? Just throwing that in there.
Now lets read the last part of the verse where it says: Which you have heard is coming and AND EVEN NOW IS ALREADY IN THE WORLD! Helloooooo, already in the world!
Donald Trump was not born when that scripture was written. If he was he looks real good for his age.
People are quick to point finger and say oh he the next Antichrist, down the line, people will say oh now he is the Antichrist. Why don't you people stop pointing the finger and concentrate on your own walk with God. Isn't pointing the finger is an act of judging? Just throwing that in there.
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Brother_J_BELGIUM
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When I read all the comments about Donald Trump possibly being the Antichrist I finally realize how ridiculous the idea is that any American president would be the Antichrist. Long ago, I used to believe that Obama was the Antichrist and for many reasons people now believe Donald Trump will be the Antichrist "for real this time". Thankfully, to the most of us it's clear that neither Obama nor Trump could possibly be the Antichrist. It's just a zero percent match.
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JesusIsAll
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Agree. The Bible is clear the antichrist will be revealed in God's time, actually no reason to believe Satan even knows who the antichrist is. Nothing happens until the Lord opens the seals in Revelation 6. You'd think the antichrist naming foolishness would die, given the 100% failure rate of all the false prophecies thus far. One would also have a very hard time pointing Mr. Obama or Mr. Trump back to the Roman Empire, a weighty list of reasons the antichrist won't even be the likes of an American president.
It has always also struck me what horrible, darkest slander it is, no matter the man, to be claiming anybody is the antichrist, without absolutely certain proof, a horrible thing to falsely accuse anybody of. And devil means slanderer. Something people should think about. I put such idiots on a pay no mind list. A slanderer is a slanderer. Unfaithful in a little is unfaithful in a lot. You'll find the source of most false prophecy bandwagons merchandising, a false prophet of no true scriptural foundations promoting some book, DVD or "ministry" on YouTube, cultish stuff. Being a cult is a product exclusive, in the realm of theological con artists, big and small.