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Therapon said:
Tribesman, I'm sorry I said that and apologize. I know you are doing the best you can. I'd just had enough attacks for one day and lost my cool. <sigh>
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I couldn't care less what you call me in your current deluded and confused state. Your attempts to try to appear "humble" and "kind" will not change any facts about the delusions you adhere to, rather it makes it all even worse since you further deceive yourself that you're on the right path (I've seen this with other cultics, they all do such things out of wrong motive and when they meet (just) resistance they insanely whine about how "persecuted" they are...heaping more burning coals on their heads).

If it so ever happens that you repent then (and only then) I will listen to you and welcome you, but only the day you publicly REPENT of and DENOUNCE your current heresies.

But maybe this goes further to harden your darkened heart, resulting in God sending you the strong delusion you will never come out of, you believing it to be so true you're willing to die for same. We'll see. As for now my last word to you is: repent.
 
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Shall i bag these up or will you be wearing
them out of the store?
 
zone said:

2. Just analyzed documents from the former USSR indicates that in the following centuries, a large unidentified body of light-skinned blue-eyed people migrated from South of the Caucuses into Kingdom of Khazaria.

3. During the Islamic expansion of the 8th century, a Moslem army under Abdel Rahman tried to invade Europe through a pass in the Caucasus, but Khazarian armies defeated him. Were it not for the bulwark of Khazaria, Christian Europe could have fallen to Islam from the East.

4. Not wanting religious wars to divide his country, the King of the Khazars ordered three missionaries to appear before his court: a Christian monk, a Jewish priest and a Moslem Imam.

5. After carefully listening to the arguments of each, the King of the Khazars chose Judaism to be the state religion!

6. Later, the people in Khazaria clinging to Judaism emigrated to Europe, where they became known as Ashkenazi Jews.



Faulty Premise #2


Khazarian Jews are not Ancient Israelites, and those who know and are honest about their history do not claim to be.

They are Gentile converts to Talmudic Rabbinic Judaism....700 YEARS AFTER JESUS CHRIST WALKED THE EARTH.

Talmudic Judaism is not Moses and the prophets



Medieval Kingdom of Khazaria, 652-1016
Over a thousand years ago, the far east of Europe was ruled by Jewish kings who presided over numerous tribes, including their own tribe: the Turkic Khazars. After their conversion, the Khazar people used Jewish personal names, spoke and wrote in Hebrew, were circumcised, had synagogues and rabbis, studied the Torah and Talmud, and observed Hanukkah, Pesach, and the Sabbath. The Khazars were an advanced civilization with one of the most tolerant societies of the medieval period. It hosted merchants from all over Asia and Europe. On these pages it is hoped that you may learn more about this fascinating culture.

Khazaria.com - History of Jewish Khazars, Khazar Turk, Khazarian Jews < click
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Surely khazars are a turkic people. Nevertheless...the khazar theory has its flaws IMO. For the "deviating lineage" I'd say the edomite theory has more solidness. After all, Esau was a brother of Jacob. Check up on the Herodians and the forced conversions during the "intertestamental" period (there are a few reasons why non-believing jews don't like the "OT Apocrypha" and the LXX). Even older official jewish encyclopedias openly admit this edomite connection. It was when zionism gained popularity that they silenced it.
 
Tribesman,

could you at least explain why you see him in error? Just accusing someone of wrong doctrine does not make it true.
 
I think the destruction of the temple in 70AD and their expulsion from Palestine is the consequence the Israelites had to pay for their treatment of Jesus.

When the Jewish chief priests and elders questioned Jesus' authority He said to them, "I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people [Gentiles] who will produce its fruit" (Mat. 21:43).

You may think I am making this statement in anger or being argumentative. I am not, like you I am just stating what I believe.
 
cfultz3 said:
hope it goes well and safe trip.
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Amaxing technology, I host seminars on gotomeeting.com, with people as far away as Japan and Russia, but I don't have to go anywhere. Just sit right here at my desk and as host of the meeting, show my desktop with whatever data I want on it. My video camera shows everyone my face and the audio is interactive so everyone in the semeinar can ask ask questions.
 
tribesman said:
Surely khazars are a turkic people. Nevertheless...the khazar theory has its flaws IMO. For the "deviating lineage" I'd say the edomite theory has more solidness. After all, Esau was a brother of Jacob. Check up on the Herodians and the forced conversions during the "intertestamental" period (there are a few reasons why non-believing jews don't like the "OT Apocrypha" and the LXX). Even older official jewish encyclopedias openly admit this edomite connection. It was when zionism gained popularity that they silenced it.
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eyup.
it's not a secret any more.

the khazars are not israelites at all. they're gentiles.

and i agree that the Herodians are the ticket in to this whole thing.
i wonder who were the "kings" who ruled portions of the Khazar kingdom before the turks converted:rolleyes:
 
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Therapon said:
Amaxing technology, I host seminars on gotomeeting.com, with people as far away as Japan and Russia, but I don't have to go anywhere. Just sit right here at my desk and as host of the meeting, show my desktop with whatever data I want on it. My video camera shows everyone my face and the audio is interactive so everyone in the semeinar can ask ask questions.
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Sweet, travel the world on your computer desk :)

How was your trip :)
 
Drett said:
I think the destruction of the temple in 70AD and their expulsion from Palestine is the consequence the Israelites had to pay for their treatment of Jesus.

When the Jewish chief priests and elders questioned Jesus' authority He said to them, "I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people [Gentiles] who will produce its fruit" (Mat. 21:43).

You may think I am making this statement in anger or being argumentative. I am not, like you I am just stating what I believe.
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and you're correct.
we're allowed to say it.
it's okay.
 
tribesman said:
I couldn't care less what you call me in your current deluded and confused state. Your attempts to try to appear "humble" and "kind" will not change any facts about the delusions you adhere to, rather it makes it all even worse since you further deceive yourself that you're on the right path (I've seen this with other cultics, they all do such things out of wrong motive and when they meet (just) resistance they insanely whine about how "persecuted" they are...heaping more burning coals on their heads).

If it so ever happens that you repent then (and only then) I will listen to you and welcome you, but only the day you publicly REPENT of and DENOUNCE your current heresies.

But maybe this goes further to harden your darkened heart, resulting in God sending you the strong delusion you will never come out of, you believing it to be so true you're willing to die for same. We'll see. As for now my last word to you is: repent.
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true nuff.
these are not little errors, and this whole invention strikes at the very heart of the Cross and the Entire Plan of God.
i rarely see such brazen apostasy openly promoted this way.
everything rewritten...by one guy who supposedly got special info.

just a mind-blower.
but the attention (particularly from the unbelieving Israelis/Rabbis) must be intoxicating.
when you're THE expert on the matter, everybody's gotta come to ya.

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tribesman said:
I couldn't care less what you call me in your current deluded and confused state. Your attempts to try to appear "humble" and "kind" will not change any facts about the delusions you adhere to. I've seen this with other cultics, they all do such things out of wrong motive and when they meet (just) resistance they insanely whine about how "persecuted" they are...heaping more burning coals on their heads. If it so ever happens that you repent then (and only then) I will listen to you and welcome you, but only the day you publicly REPENT of and DENOUNCE your current heresies. But maybe this goes further to harden your darkened heart, resulting in God sending you the strong delusion you will never come out of, you believing it to be so true you're willing to die for same. We'll see. As for now my last word to you is: repent.
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WOW! Have you read any of the books I've written or are you just venting? In any case, I wasn't faking, I truly am sorry I wrote something unkind. A true Christian isn't someone with the right doctrine, but someone with a humble and contrite heart towards our heavenly Father. There is a lot of aggression, anger and renrering of evil for evil on this forum and I'm no great saint, I'm sometimes drawn into it. But I know it is displeasing to the Lord, so with His help, I will do it no more.
 
cfultz3 said:
Sweet, travel the world on your computer desk :)

How was your trip :)
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Actually great. I share the Bible prophecy Study Guide with missionaries, pastors, evangelists and the like. Believe it or not, I get a harder time right here than anywhere else on earth, but this is good for me. I learn patience, humility and kindness in adversity, attributes that I sorely need corrected.
 
Therapon said:
Actually great. I share the Bible prophecy Study Guide with missionaries, pastors, evangelists and the like. Believe it or not, I get a harder time right here than anywhere else on earth, but this is good for me. I learn patience, humility and kindness in adversity, attributes that I sorely need corrected.
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no ellis, you need that false doctrine corrected.
all that stuff you cooked up is false.
anyhoo.
 
1 John 3

Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.11For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. 12Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.13Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. 14We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. 15Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. 16Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 17But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? 18My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. 19And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. 20For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 21Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. 22And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.23And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 24And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
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Love is for sharing.
 
Therapon said:
A true Christian isn't someone with the right doctrine
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i thought you said you had unlocked the new doctrinal systems.
that God through the events of 1948 changed all our basic doctrines.
including who is saved and how.
all new SOTERIOLOGY.

so, what's this about:

Therapon said:
A true Christian isn't someone with the right doctrine
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?

you sly fox:D
you don't fool me for one second:)
 
. A true Christian isn't someone with the right doctrine, but someone with a humble and contrite heart towards our heavenly Father. Just the fact that you said this proves you are in the right to me.
 
Blain said:
. A true Christian isn't someone with the right doctrine, but someone with a humble and contrite heart towards our heavenly Father. Just the fact that you said this proves you are in the right to me.
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Blain:
does an adult of the age of accountability who has heard of Jesus need to recognize, and acknowledge Jesus Christ of Nazareth as the Saviour?

can an adult of the age of accountability acknowledge Jesus Christ of Nazareth as being a real historical figure, and reject Him completely yet be saved?
 
Therapon said:
Actually great. I share the Bible prophecy Study Guide with missionaries, pastors, evangelists and the like. Believe it or not, I get a harder time right here than anywhere else on earth, but this is good for me. I learn patience, humility and kindness in adversity, attributes that I sorely need corrected.
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Great attributes for any Christian, those who are following Christ. OH! BTW!!!!! Let us not forget this attribute: GOD IS LOVE.
 
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