Three women found after 10 years.

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AgeofKnowledge said:
This doesn't have to be complicated:

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But the earthly powers that be shall make it so anyways, of course.
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I certainly hope that doesn't happen. Those men should be put in jail for the rest of their lives. Not killed.
That would just make things worse and it would be millions of dollars wasted on murder that could have went to charity.
 
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Snakecharmer said:
Would you blame her for not believing someone who was willing to allow that to happen to her for 25 years?
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Regardless of the trials we experience, God wants all to know Him. We are all equal in His sight, none more worthy than another to be saved, for all have sinned. We are promised God will reveal Himself to everyone, whether they acknowledge and accept Him, is their free choice. We compare 'bad people' to other bad people, compare and hierarchically organise sin....but that's not of God, it's man. Sin is sin and we are seperated from God by it, regardless of if we tell ourselves, 'I am not a rapist, so I am not so bad a person'. It matters not. We ALL fall short, we all need God. 25 years may seem a long time to us...but it is nothing when viewed with our eyes firmly fixed on eternity. If God has been acknowledged or will be acknowledged through this captivity, then praise His Holy name! His ways are nit our ways. It is not possible to understand the ways of God by comparing Him and His apparent motives, from our viewpoint. We are fallen, sinful and cannot ever, till we go home to be with Him, ever fully comprehend the incredible, supernatural, creator God! <><
 
Millions of dollars will be wasted on Ariel's incarceration and it will come out the pockets of taxpayers who had nothing to do with his crime. That, in itself, is a form of financial victimization.

It's people that think like you who prevent real tort reform from occurring in our system of justice and ensure that taxpayers continue to be financially victimized for enormous sums of money each year in the U.S..

Ariel should get an inexpensive old school trial and when convicted: hung from a scaffold after a night in the box with a representative from the religion of his choice counseling him on the other side of the bars.

Millions saved and justice served.

As for charity, you appear to have some funny ideas about how that works. Charity is not welfare.

Charity is the voluntary giving of help, typically money, to those in need.

Welfare is when the government forcibly takes money from people who worked for it to hand out to people who did not work for it. State and federal welfare spending in the United States is now 1 1/2 trillion a year and projected to rise 90% over the next decade if amnesty is not given (in which case it skyrockets much faster and farther). It's an enormous unsustainable amount that is double all U.S. military expenditures dominating the federal budget so thoroughly that it threatens to actually crash the dollar in the future as it skyrockets upwards.

You have a lot to learn.


Quakerguy said:
I certainly hope that doesn't happen. Those men should be put in jail for the rest of their lives. Not killed.
That would just make things worse and it would be millions of dollars wasted on murder that could have went to charity.
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I'm praying for those girls, but I won't pray for Ariel Castro. He's pure evil and he needs to go as quickly as possible.
 
AgeofKnowledge said:
Millions of dollars will be wasted on Ariel's incarceration and it will come out the pockets of taxpayers who had nothing to do with his crime. That, in itself, is a form of financial victimization.

It's people that think like you who prevent real tort reform from occurring in our system of justice and ensure that taxpayers continue to be financially victimized for enormous sums of money each year in the U.S..

Ariel should get an inexpensive old school trial and when convicted: hung from a scaffold after a night in the box with a representative from the religion of his choice counseling him on the other side of the bars.

Millions saved and justice served.

As for charity, you appear to have some funny ideas about how that works. Charity is not welfare.

Charity is the voluntary giving of help, typically money, to those in need.

Welfare is when the government forcibly takes money from people who worked for it to hand out to people who did not work for it. State and federal welfare spending in the United States is now 1 1/2 trillion a year and projected to rise 90% over the next decade if amnesty is not given (in which case it skyrockets much faster and farther). It's an enormous unsustainable amount that is double all U.S. military expenditures dominating the federal budget so thoroughly that it threatens to actually crash the dollar in the future as it skyrockets upwards.

You have a lot to learn.
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Im impressed to see a complete lack of misunderstanding of the us justice system in this post.
"Ariel should get an inexpensive old school trial and when convicted: hung from a scaffold after a night in the box with a representative from the religion of his choice counseling him on the other side of the bars."
This isnt even close to how things work.
 
Snakecharmer said:
Would you blame her for not believing someone who was willing to allow that to happen to her for 25 years?
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Anyone blame satan yet for what evil is present in the world, or has he been overlooked in trying to transfer blame to God.

Has anyone noticed the guy who came to the ladies rescue claims he is a Christian, and that it is entirely highly possible God used one of his "believers" to do his will for Good.
That men like Ramsey are a good example for following God's voice with a noble and courageous boldness being a believer as opposed to blaming God for the things satan convinces his own followers to do.
Some people appreciate light and beauty simply for it being there from the beginning
Others only appreciate light after being shown darkness.
Some don't appreciate any light at all.

John 1:5
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
 
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Right, that's not how they work. That's what I said you nitwit. If you had comprehended my post before commenting on it, something you failed to do, then you would see that I'm stating that is not how things work but should in this case.

You missed the mark yet again Nautilus but then that's what you're know for: missing the mark. Sometimes it's deliberate and sometimes it's not. Either way, that's your modus operandi and why you deserve to be ignored.

Nautilus said:
Im impressed to see a complete lack of misunderstanding of the us justice system in this post.
"Ariel should get an inexpensive old school trial and when convicted: hung from a scaffold after a night in the box with a representative from the religion of his choice counseling him on the other side of the bars."
This isnt even close to how things work.
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You're wanting to switch the justice system from one with appeals which allow the convicted to perhaps retry their case which may have been improperly tried to one where justice and execution is meted out immediately. at the point why bother with a trial just have a public opinion poll? For someone who seems to be worried about persecution of christians what do you think this would lead to? And how would you feel if your suggestion became reality and started being used on christians?
 
The Lord has watched over them and taken care of their live. Through the abuse and miscarriages He even saved a child who is six-years-old now. Life won't be easy for the 4 girls but God has saved them and has a plan for them. 3 girls, that most people believed to be dead long before now, are now alive to the world! What a miracle! Prayers for the three and the little girl, their families, and friends, and those affect by not only their disappearances but their reappearances <3 Also prayers for the girls who can no longer be with their loved ones who passed when they were missing. They are 4 incredibly strong women of our time <3 God Bless.
 
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error said:
Well, intead of blah blah blah about this all... we all could pray for the victims (and it would be the right thng to do->we could also pray for those men too).
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Yea, it will takes to get over the nightmare they endured for 10 years.
 
Fenner said:
I'm praying for those girls, but I won't pray for Ariel Castro. He's pure evil and he needs to go as quickly as possible.
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Maybe we should pray for Ariel Castro as well. Jesus forgave the man who was nailed to the another next to him. Why can't we pray the God's will be done to him as well?
 
danschance said:
Maybe we should pray for Ariel Castro as well. Jesus forgave the man who was nailed to the another next to him. Why can't we pray the God's will be done to him as well?
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You're much kinder than me. I'm sorry but I won't be praying for him. His family, yes. He can rot as far as I'm concerned.
 
Our ability to forgive, does not come from us, it is from Christ. All are evil in the eyes of God, if they are not saved through Jesus Christ. It is not our place to decided who is better than another, all far short. We are to show our belief and our faith, in our obedience to His Word. It is hard to pray for such men, but we can, through the grace of God, understand that God wants all to know Him. All who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved....even him. Will he? Only God knows but we can pray He will repent and call on the Lord. God Bless, <><
 
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hattiebod said:
Our ability to forgive, does not come from us, it is from Christ. All are evil in the eyes of God, if they are not saved through Jesus Christ. It is not our place to decided who is better than another, all far short. We are to show our belief and our faith, in our obedience to His Word. It is hard to pray for such men, but we can, through the grace of God, understand that God wants all to know Him. All who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved....even him. Will he? Only God knows but we can pray He will repent and call on the Lord. God Bless, <><
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I can't bring myself to do it. I've talked to GOD about it, but I have a hard time praying for people who do horrible things. I wouldn't be a good earthly judge because when someone who is clearly guilty of something so awful and evil, I don't think they deserve a trial. It's something I'm working on.
 
AgeofKnowledge said:
Millions of dollars will be wasted on Ariel's incarceration and it will come out the pockets of taxpayers who had nothing to do with his crime. That, in itself, is a form of financial victimization.

It's people that think like you who prevent real tort reform from occurring in our system of justice and ensure that taxpayers continue to be financially victimized for enormous sums of money each year in the U.S..

Ariel should get an inexpensive old school trial and when convicted: hung from a scaffold after a night in the box with a representative from the religion of his choice counseling him on the other side of the bars.

Millions saved and justice served.

As for charity, you appear to have some funny ideas about how that works. Charity is not welfare.

Charity is the voluntary giving of help, typically money, to those in need.

Welfare is when the government forcibly takes money from people who worked for it to hand out to people who did not work for it. State and federal welfare spending in the United States is now 1 1/2 trillion a year and projected to rise 90% over the next decade if amnesty is not given (in which case it skyrockets much faster and farther). It's an enormous unsustainable amount that is double all U.S. military expenditures dominating the federal budget so thoroughly that it threatens to actually crash the dollar in the future as it skyrockets upwards.

You have a lot to learn.
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Despite what some people think, It actually costs more money to execute a person than to put them in Jail for life.
I pray that people will wake up and realize that the Death Penalty does not benefit society, It makes things worse.
The more executions there are the more tax money people will have to pay. These Executioners are just as evil as the people they execute.
 
AgeofKnowledge said:
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I like how you assume getting ignored by a fanatic will do more than humor me everytime you post this. I know you can't read this but I do enjoy it.
 
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