Trinity?

[TruthFromFrank]

The very passage you refer to in Philippians 2 says that the Lord Jesus 'thought it not robbery to be equal with God' (verse 6).

You refer to John 1.14 which says the Lord Jesus' glory is 'the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth'; a resounding testimony to His deity.

It seems, however, you have come to this site with the express purpose of denying among the most central doctrines of Biblical Christianity.

Remember, Jesus was created by God and lived with God face to face. So He could make the statement to be equal with God. Yes, Jesus had the deity status until God requested Him to come down to this earth to fulfill the tasks that was part of the Salvation Plan.
The Bible teach us that in the beginning there were two Gods.
Joh 1:1–2 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.”
Here we see that the Word was with God, therefore two individual entities, and that the Word was also a God, therefore two Gods. The verse also states two other things namely that the Word was with God which means that He left God and, that the Word was a God which means that afterwards He was not a God anymore.
The Word, which was a God, gave up His Godly status and became man or flesh on this earth and lived among the people.
Joh 1:14 “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
According to the Biblical texts, there is only one God, the Father.
1 Cor 8:4 “…..and that there is none other God but one.”
The message is quite clear that there is only one God, the Father.
1 Cor 8:6 “But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.”
It confirms here that there is only one God who created everything and Jesus Christ took that which God created and gave form to it, which included man. It also proves here that there were two entities.
1 Tim 2:5 “There is one God, and one Mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”
It confirms here that there is only one God and also that Jesus Christ is the only Mediator between God and man. This is a very important fact to remember as some believers/churches teach that you do not need Jesus Christ to go God. Again, a confirmation that there are two entities. The text quote that Jesus Christ was man, and not a woman, whilst God had the title as the Holy Spirit.
Joh 17:5 – “And now, O Father glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory I had with thee before the world was.”
Here we see Jesus’ request to God in prayer to glorify Him with the glory He had when He was with His Father before the world existed. Jesus Christ was not just an ordinary man, but truly the Son of God. Jesus Christ prayed this prayer just before He died on the cross, as He knew what lay ahead for Him.
Joh 8:29 – “And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.”
Jesus confirms here that God is with Him, obviously in spirit form as the Holy Spirit, because He (Jesus) always do things that pleases His Father.
Joh 8:42 – “Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but He sent me.
Jesus confirms here that God sent Him to earth and how obedient He was to God, as God has commanded Him and He listened and came to this earth, and if we accept God as our Father, then we would love Jesus because He has gone out of His Father.
From the texts above we can deduct that Jesus Christ was the co-God and Word, which originally was with God and became flesh on this earth. Jesus originally was also a Holy Spirit just like God, and He willingly gave up His Godly status when He became man. This act of Jesus giving up His Godly status shows us His willingness, obedience and unselfishness to God and mankind. This left thus only God the Father, as the only Holy Spirit in the heaven. Jesus also confirmed that God is His Father who honoured Him. Jesus Christ is the Son of God and was on this earth to teach mankind who God really is and how to be willing, obedient and unselfish to God.
John the Baptist received a message from God how to identify Jesus, the Son of God.
Joh 1:33-34 – “And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom though shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.”
John the Baptist spoke these words when he baptized Jesus Christ.
With the baptism of Jesus Christ, many heard the words coming down clearly from the heavens, which has also so been documented.
Mat 3:17 - “And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
Mar 1:11- “And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
Luk 3:22 – “And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
From that which was spoken from heaven which everybody clearly heard, can we just conclude that is was only God’s voice, which then also confirmed that Jesus is His beloved Son and He is well pleased in Him.
At one stage Peter, Jacob and John were with Jesus on a mountain when a cloud covered them and they heard a voice coming out of the cloud confirming that Jesus is His beloved Son.
Mat 17:5 “While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.”
If the voice confirmed that Jesus is His beloved son, then logically the voice came from Jesus’ Father. This fact is further confirmed in Mar 9:7, Luk 9:35 and 2 Pet 1:17.
Jesus asked the man that He just healed from blindness:-
Joh 9:35-37 - “Dost thou believe on the Son of God? He answered and said, who is He, Lord, that I might believe on Him? And Jesus said unto him ‘Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.”
The first person that the man, which was blind from birth and has been healed, saw in front of him, was Jesus. It is also Jesus that spoke to him at that moment. Jesus confirmed to the ‘blind man’ who could then ‘see’, that He is the Son of God.
Incidents of ‘spirits of an unclean devil’, ‘unclean spirits’ and ‘devils’, who confirmed that Jesus was related to God, were documented by two disciples. A man with the ‘spirit of an unclean devil’ confirms that Jesus is the Holy One of God. Luk 4:33-34 – “And in the synagogue there was a man, which had a spirit of an unclean devil, and cried out with a loud voice, Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? Art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God.”
The spirit of an unclean devil confirmed that Jesus is the Holy One of God which could mean that He is related to God.
Luk 4:41 “And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.”
Again a confirmation from many devils that Christ is the Son of God.
Mark 3:11 “And unclean Spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.”
The unclean spirits, who were with God in heaven and knew Jesus, confirmed every time when they saw Jesus, that He is the Son of God.
Luk 22:42 Jesus kneeled and prayed to His Father and said:.”… Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.” If Jesus prayed to God and called Him Father, then surely He has to be the Son of God.