Trumps gonna win.

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cv5

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"If Kamala had won, the MSM would be lecturing all Trump voters about "coming together" and supporting her.

Nary a word about that for their voters of course. . ."
 

hornetguy

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not a nation which funds wars all over the planet, I think the world is tired of the big bully on the block exerting its power while innocent people are killed.
please explain how the US is funding wars... you say that as if we are complicit in starting them. The only thing the US is doing is supporting our ALLIES. That's how an alliance works. That does not make us a big bully, that makes us an AllY.

Diplomacy is what is used when trying to STOP those kinds of conflicts.... and Trump excells at that. I think we will see an end to the Gaza issue within 6 months of his being sworn in.... and it wouldn't surprise me to see the Russian Ukraine war come to an end within a year.
The little rocket man will go back to his daily buffet, and Iran will sit down and shut up..... IMO, of course.
 

ZNP

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@thevivafrei

The exact number of votes for the Democrat, according the Wikipedia:

-2008: Obama gets 69 million
-2012: Obama gets 65 million
-2016: Hillary gets 65 million
-2020: Joe Biden gets 81 MILLION
-2024: Kamala Harris gets 66 million
One of these things, is not like the others.

2020 was stolen. Period. Pure and simple.
Just 32% of voters yesterday identified as Democrats.

Of the 3,144 counties that exist in the US Harris did not outperform Biden in a single one. That is beyond belief.
 

Roughsoul1991

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HeIsHere

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the Abrahamic peace accords was historical,
Well we disagree, these accords were mostly arms deal and had little to do with peace.

He had a good team for diplomacy and no wars under his term.
He surrounded himself with Neo-cons in the first terms who did not really have any significant policy difference than the Democrats

He sold arms to Ukraine while in office.
Threatened to bomb Moscow and Putin's residence when he was in office.

He states he has some secret plan to bring peace to Ukraine and Russia, probably much like Nixon's secret plan to end the Vietnam war which went on for four years after he announced his secret plan.

He talks peace in Michigan and then also states Lebanon should be destroyed and turned into rubble.

But his real genius lies in making fun of people and making contrast of himself with people like Adam Schiff and Liz Cheney so he is the protagonist and they as antagonists make him look good.
All this to say I disagree, he is by no means a diplomat nor does he understand any of the history of the current conflicts.
 

cv5

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Well we disagree, these accords were mostly arms deal and had little to do with peace.



He surrounded himself with Neo-cons in the first terms who did not really have any significant policy difference than the Democrats

He sold arms to Ukraine while in office.
Threatened to bomb Moscow and Putin's residence when he was in office.

He states he has some secret plan to bring peace to Ukraine and Russia, probably much like Nixon's secret plan to end the Vietnam war which went on for four years after he announced his secret plan.

He talks peace in Michigan and then also states Lebanon should be destroyed and turned into rubble.

But his real genius lies in making fun of people and making contrast of himself with people like Adam Schiff and Liz Cheney so he is the protagonist and they as antagonists make him look good.
All this to say I disagree, he is by no means a diplomat nor does he understand any of the history of the current conflicts.
Oh well. Time to turn over a new leaf eh?
 

HeIsHere

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Oh well. Time to turn over a new leaf eh?
I am hopeful and yet realistic, power, money and influence (the administrative state, the military industrial complex, the CIA) do not just evaporate over night because Trump was elected.
 

ZNP

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cv5

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I am hopeful and yet realistic, power, money and influence (the administrative state, the military industrial complex, the CIA) do not just evaporate over night because Trump was elected.
Old guard swamp critter dinosaurs like Pelosi and McConnel have to go.

And JFK Jr needs to do a number on the weaponized spooky agencies.

And if Trump fails to IMMEDIATELY dismiss Mayorkas, Garland, Wray and so many others, well, it will be business as usual I'm afraid.
 

HeIsHere

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Old guard swamp critter dinosaurs like Pelosi and McConnel have to go.

And JFK Jr needs to do a number on the weaponized spooky agencies.

And if Trump fails to IMMEDIATELY dismiss Mayorkas, Garland, Wray and so many others, well, it will be business as usual I'm afraid.
I would add bringing back Mike Pompeo would not be a good sign.