Trumps Tariffs

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ZNP

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Remember in economics class when they talk about unintended consequences? Do you think Trunk knows about this?
Yes, and I remember Sun Tzu, the number one rule is to not assume your enemy is a fool. I have said this before, I'll say it again. Trump is trying to crash the US dollar and bring in a digital currency. I say this not based on what he has said but based on what he is doing.

I am a Christian and know that this will be one step closer to the mark of the beast. But I also taught forensics and know that a digital dollar has many things going for it that would make it appealing to any world leader. It will make it much, much easier to catch all criminals. It will all but eliminate tax fraud. I can see the appeal to the President of the US when faced with the possibility that the US dollar is about to go bust.

A digital currency is part of the Beast system and I have also said that Elon Musk is the forerunner for the Antichrist. His starlink satellites are a key component for the Mark of the beast. His neuralink explains why the mark of the beast will make it impossible to get saved.

The beast system is rising out of the sea, everyone can see that. AI, Drones, Digital currency, a web of satellites, etc. The fact that Elon Musk is put in such an influential position in the Trump administration speaks volumes.

Everyone likes DOGE saving the US money (unless of course it is your job that gets cut). What they are missing is you are telling a guy who makes robots and AI what are the five most important things you did last week. That is gold to a guy making computer based systems to replace your job.
 

ZNP

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Time will tell.

I think the USA could see riots in the streets, but then you guys are following Canada's lead and becoming an authoritarian state so most likely the clamp down will not be pretty....... since there will be some who will not acquiesce.
Yes, Trump thinks that too which is why he just recently despatched military equipment to a number of police departments. I expect the blue states on the West coast will be the first affected.

 

ZNP

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I am reminded of the movie Cinderella Man, he promised to bring his kids home turtles, and so that meant he had to get into the ring with a heavyweight boxer who had killed other men in the ring. Yes, we need someone to get in that ring and fight if we are ever going to get a turtle.
 

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It is the excesses of the USA that have brought Canada into the cross hairs. Canada was a fairly well run country til Trudeau was voted in.

But strange that Trunk wanted a the Liberal Carney to win. Thanks Trunk .. yeah any chance America had died >>>>>>Nov. 22. 1963

 

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I am reminded of the movie Cinderella Man, he promised to bring his kids home turtles, and so that meant he had to get into the ring with a heavyweight boxer who had killed other men in the ring. Yes, we need someone to get in that ring and fight if we are ever going to get a turtle.
The USA cannot fight its way out of this mess until it deals with the neo-cons who think war is the answer to every problem.

And others who write books (funding Trunk's re-election) arguing "monopolies" are the final solution for the capitalist state.
Good bye small and mid size businesses your days are numbered.
 

Kroogz

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It is the excesses of the USA that have brought Canada into the cross hairs. Canada was a fairly well run country til Trudeau was voted in.

But strange that Trunk wanted a the Liberal Carney to win. Thanks Trunk .. yeah any chance America had died >>>>>>Nov. 22. 1963

I listened to Jordans video. He is spot on. Listen to it again from this perspective........Canada needs a Trump.

But the Canadians won't vote for a tough, no nonsense leader.

Americans voted for a Trump.......Canada will you? You need someone like Trump. Put Canada FIRST.
 

ZNP

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The USA cannot fight its way out of this mess until it deals with the neo-cons who think war is the answer to every problem.

And others who write books (funding Trunk's re-election) arguing "monopolies" are the final solution for the capitalist state.
Good bye small and mid size businesses your days are numbered.
I would say the Bible is the truth, whatever the Bible said would happen will happen. You can't fight against that.
 

Kroogz

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And others who write books (funding Trunk's re-election) arguing "monopolies" are the final solution for the capitalist state.
Good bye small and mid size businesses your days are numbered.
I am a small business owner. I have heard this since the early 90's. And heard the rumors of it from Dad and Granddad from the 30's on.

The only things that caused me pause and strife were policies from the LEFT. And I have MANY associates that I work with and are other small business owners......They will tell you the same thing.

If you want to own and run a small business, the LEFT makes it hard. But no one is going to stop you.
 

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Time will tell.

I think the USA could see riots in the streets, but then you guys are following Canada's lead and becoming an authoritarian state so most likely the clamp down will not be pretty....... since there will be some who will not acquiesce.
USA doesn't follow anybody's lead. It's the other way around. The world follow the USA lead in culture and rhetoric since USA is influential. It's the burden of an empire.
This is why the liberals have infected you through USAID which Donald J Trump has shut down.
I recommend you send him a thank you letter.
 

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The USA cannot fight its way out of this mess until it deals with the neo-cons who think war is the answer to every problem.

And others who write books (funding Trunk's re-election) arguing "monopolies" are the final solution for the capitalist state.
Good bye small and mid size businesses your days are numbered.
What empire doesn't involve themselves into wars as a way of life?
Imaginary empires in your mind?

People used to go to the Coloseum as family event to watch people fight themselves to death by watching gore and eating nuts and fruits. Look it up. This is what the archeologists found there. Nuts and fruits while watching gore.
Why? Because war and death is the major export of an empire.

This empire, USA, is nowhere close to Rome in terms of violence though and subjugating the entire world under their rule and slavery.
 

Kroogz

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What empire doesn't involve themselves into wars as a way of life?
Imaginary empires in your mind?

People used to go to the Coloseum as family event to watch people fight themselves to death by watching gore and eating nuts and fruits. Look it up. This is what the archeologists found there. Nuts and fruits while watching gore.
Why? Because war and death is the major export of an empire.

This empire, USA, is nowhere close to Rome in terms of violence though and subjugating the entire world under their rule and slavery.
And you know, 90% of Democrats would gleefully and fully support wiping Israel off of the map.

War for me but not for thee.
 

Eli1

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And you know, 90% of Democrats would gleefully and fully support wiping Israel off of the map.

War for me but not for thee.
And as you've said earlier the terms liberal and leftist are different in its true origins but these days you can't tell who's who anymore. So that's why i call them all liberals, who regurgitate somebody else's talking points, without any ideas of their own, like they're robots fresh out of a factory, with a serial number and everything.

John Locke is credited to be the "first" liberal with his ideas which are nowhere close to the term liberal today, or even ideas in the 1920s are nowhere close to the term liberal.
Back then, it was limited government, religious freedom, free-market.
I mean, these are ideas that the Republicans support now and even Kennedy would be considered a Republican in today's political climate.

So i don't know what to call them, but they're definitely not liberals.
Maybe mental health patients might be a better term?
 

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Wow, interesting point made in this video that the manufacturing can only go to the US. Think about it, all the countries that China will try and go to to sell the stuff they had previously sold to the US cannot buy it because they also have to balance their trade with the US. Right now all of these countries are in the same boat, they are looking to buy more from the US. Even if China tries to move production to Vietnam or some other country they won't be able to sell to the US unless Vietnam buys the same amount from the US.

Also this is April of 2025. If you saw that Trump was going to be elected in November and so in October of 2024 you could have sold your factory at a profit and left with a strong bank account. Then six months later everyone is selling their factories and machines for "scrap". You could have then bought up the stuff for pennies on the dollar.
 

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China to blame for USA spending too much and acquiring personal debt.
Forced austerity?
You will own two dolls and be happy. :)


In this long era of materialism, it actually sounds like a good thing to tell the child you'll have 1 or 2 dolls and be happy. What's this 30 dolls nonsense? Maybe we'll also get away from some of the built-in functional obsolescence and make things that last again.
 

Kroogz

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What empire doesn't involve themselves into wars as a way of life?
Imaginary empires in your mind?

People used to go to the Coloseum as family event to watch people fight themselves to death by watching gore and eating nuts and fruits. Look it up. This is what the archeologists found there. Nuts and fruits while watching gore.
Why? Because war and death is the major export of an empire.

This empire, USA, is nowhere close to Rome in terms of violence though and subjugating the entire world under their rule and slavery.
Nuts and fruits? Interesting piece of history. I did not know that.

Better than hotdogs and beer right?
 

Eli1

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Nuts and fruits? Interesting piece of history. I did not know that.

Better than hotdogs and beer right?
Definitely not better than hotdogs and beer and we're not animals. We don't put the liberals in a ring and watch them fight to death.
We see them leave the country themselves in shame. :giggle:
 

Kroogz

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And as you've said earlier the terms liberal and leftist are different in its true origins but these days you can't tell who's who anymore. So that's why i call them all liberals, who regurgitate somebody else's talking points, without any ideas of their own, like they're robots fresh out of a factory, with a serial number and everything.

John Locke is credited to be the "first" liberal with his ideas which are nowhere close to the term liberal today, or even ideas in the 1920s are nowhere close to the term liberal.
Back then, it was limited government, religious freedom, free-market.
I mean, these are ideas that the Republicans support now and even Kennedy would be considered a Republican in today's political climate.

So i don't know what to call them, but they're definitely not liberals.
Maybe mental health patients might be a better term?
Kennedy was a Trump.......Thats why he committed suicide.;)
It's interesting watching and reading the different ideas and ideologies.

The left is doom and gloom......defeated.

I have worked with a whole variety of different personalities.......The optimistic, positive "nothing can hold me back" personalities....Succeed.

And Trump is the epitome of that personality......99% of us would be in a mental hospital, sucking our thumbs and wetting ourselves if we were as vilified and attacked as much as him!
 

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Kennedy was a Trump.......Thats why he committed suicide.;)
It's interesting watching and reading the different ideas and ideologies.

The left is doom and gloom......defeated.

I have worked with a whole variety of different personalities.......The optimistic, positive "nothing can hold me back" personalities....Succeed.

And Trump is the epitome of that personality......99% of us would be in a mental hospital, sucking our thumbs and wetting ourselves if we were as vilified and attacked as much as him!
that is true. he just keeps going, no matter what..