Turning from sin

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wattie

wattie

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I would be interested to know your thoughts on this.

There are many gospel tracts that have in their salvation talk..

'Turn from sin' and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

This is what they think 'repent' means.

The thing about this is God Himself repented of what He was going to do in the OT.

It was a 'change of mind, heart'.

I believe repent at salvation means to change your mind, heart about who Jesus is..to believe in Him.

I believe..we can 'turn from sin' as a behaviour of change after conversion. It's not the requirement for salvation.

Knowing you are a sinner, deserving hell, and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Believing He is God, that He lived sinless, that He died and rose again. That by believing, you have eternal life.

That's salvation. Not about your behaviour of doing good. That good behaviour of turning from sin..comes because you are saved..in response to salvation.. but it's not the way of salvation.

Repent= change of mind, heart.

Your thoughts?
 
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GWH

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wattie said:
I would be interested to know your thoughts on this.

There are many gospel tracts that have in their salvation talk..

'Turn from sin' and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

This is what they think 'repent' means.

The thing about this is God Himself repented of what He was going to do in the OT.

It was a 'change of mind, heart'.

I believe repent at salvation means to change your mind, heart about who Jesus is..to believe in Him.

I believe..we can 'turn from sin' as a behaviour of change after conversion. It's not the requirement for salvation.

Knowing you are a sinner, deserving hell, and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Believing He is God, that He lived sinless, that He died and rose again. That by believing, you have eternal life.

That's salvation. Not about your behaviour of doing good. That good behaviour of turning from sin..comes because you are saved..in response to salvation.. but it's not the way of salvation.

Repent= change of mind, heart.

Your thoughts?
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I agree, and this change from ignoring GW to accepting JC as Lord is made possible because of God's seeking grace:

Jesus Himself expressed GRFS succinctly using three, four and five letter words: “Ask… seek… knock…” (Matt. 7:7). This indicates that God graces every sinful soul with the ability or opportunity to understand how to be saved (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11), which might be called “seeking grace” (Tit. 2:11). As Hebrews 11:6 states: “he [God] rewards those who earnestly seek him” (cf. Isa. 45:19).

Seeking God is the beginning of saving faith, and not seeking God or rejecting His salvation in Christ is the essence of evil atheism or faith in I-dolatry (Rom. 3:11, 1:18-23). Sinful humanity retains the image of God or moral free will, so every normal adult soul is able by faith to choose to seek salvation–or not (cf. Deut. 30:19).
 
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reneweddaybyday

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wattie said:
I believe repent at salvation means to change your mind, heart about who Jesus is..to believe in Him.
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Romans 10:9-10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

The word "confess" in vs 9 and the word "confession" in vs 10 are translated from the Greek word homologeó which means to say the same thing.

When a person hears the Word of God, he or she can then "confess" (say the same thing as what God's Word says) and believe in his or her heart that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised from the dead.




wattie said:
That's salvation. Not about your behaviour of doing good. That good behaviour of turning from sin..comes because you are saved..in response to salvation.. but it's not the way of salvation.
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yes ... God gives us a new heart, a new way of life. We repent of our old ways because we have that new heart which is led by the Spirit ... the born again one is no longer at enmity against God.
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Blain

Blain

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If you think about it the change of mind and heart upon repentance is miraculous because to do such a thing is going against our instincts which like comparing an animal going against their instincts it is not something animals do often if at all.

When one is saved we truly are changed all animals live by instinct humans to but while humans can change and even practice not sinning it doesn't truly happen without true repentance and then this change that happens is supernatural
To have true repentance we have to not just be repentant of our sins but we have to think seriosuly here we have to see God as not just our friend but our Lord as well

Our Lord as in the utmost respect and submission the authoirty of our lives such a title demands respect but once we do his love fills us up and this love is the gas-the fuel that runs our lives and makes us not want to sin without this love we have no gas and so even if we try to not sin it simply is impossible without this love

True repentance is not simply recognizing we are sinners and changing from sin it is true powerful often emotional supernatural experience and it isn't just calling Jesus our savior and Lord but truly making him Lord of all the authority and ruler of our every being and lives truly subitting to him and his will the all powerful all ruling God and king
Repent and be saved, respect and be aware of his Lordship love and live love and sin no more. such powerful things.
 
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kqr_anointed

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wattie said:
I would be interested to know your thoughts on this.

There are many gospel tracts that have in their salvation talk..

'Turn from sin' and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

This is what they think 'repent' means.

The thing about this is God Himself repented of what He was going to do in the OT.

It was a 'change of mind, heart'.

I believe repent at salvation means to change your mind, heart about who Jesus is..to believe in Him.

I believe..we can 'turn from sin' as a behaviour of change after conversion. It's not the requirement for salvation.

Knowing you are a sinner, deserving hell, and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Believing He is God, that He lived sinless, that He died and rose again. That by believing, you have eternal life.

That's salvation. Not about your behaviour of doing good. That good behaviour of turning from sin..comes because you are saved..in response to salvation.. but it's not the way of salvation.

Repent= change of mind, heart.

Your thoughts?
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I need to Google it
 
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