I typed out a long reply explaining how many things are wrong with what you inferred, erased it, and maybe will accept to chalk it up to poor communication. If you're going to honestly tell me you think I'm arrogant over it, you're simply not understanding why I was upset.
Hi,
I apologize for what I said am so sorry. but here is to reiterate my position on Isaiah 14 that Lucifer is indeed an angelic being and not human being. Being one of the stars(angel) of God . Lucifer is referred to Satan not in his sinful estate but wanted to exalt his position over other angels longing to have been worship as God, which is indicated in the phrase “even the throne of God”. His 5 “I wills” marked his revolt against God but to his downfall.
As said, Stars =angels, and Lucifer = angel. The scriptures are clear on this matter. Citing Job 38:7 says
“When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”
A diagram of the verse is:
morning stars = sons of God
sang together = shouted for joy
This is what the Psalmist did. This what morning stars did, they sang together and shouted for joy.
Psalms 33:3 Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise.
Psalms 95:1 O come, let us sing unto the LORD: let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation.
What about the term “sons of God”, this term as used in the Bible may be applied to:
1. Adam. As quoted in the N.T. found in Luke 3:38 Which was
the son of Enos, which was
the son of Seth, which was
the son ofAdam, which was
the son of God.
2. Saved/ believers in Christ. John 1:12 and others.
3. Angels. Citing the book of Job 1:6 and 2:1 etc. To quote:
Now there was a day when the
sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and
Satan came also among them.
Again there was a day when the
sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and
Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
The “sons of God” could not be a mere human since they present themselves before the LORD and this refer to the angels. The objection may arise here is that Satan is different from the angels. This is so, because Lucifer is now in his fallen estate. Notice Job 38:7 that indeed Lucifer is included shouting for joy when he still not in his fallen estate and that the word
“all” indicated it so.
Thus the stars therefore here refer to the angels…not yet convince on the stars as angels? Let then the scripture speaks of itself for which I am quoting Revelation 1:20 for reference.
“The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The
seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.” So what’s the problem? Lucifer is an angelic being but not a human being.
It seems we got a bigger problem since Isaiah 14:16 told that Lucifer is a man. The term “man” as used in the bible does not speaks only of a human kind. It may also be applied also to an angelic being. Scriptural proofs: Please read Zechariah 1: 8-11 and I quote:
8 I saw by night, and behold a
man riding upon a red horse, and he stood among the myrtle trees that
were in the bottom; and behind him
were there red horses, speckled, and white.
9Then said I, O my lord, what
are these? And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee what these
be.
10And the man that stood among the myrtle trees answered and said, These
are they whom the LORD hath sent to walk to and fro through the earth.
11And they answered
the angel of the LORD that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest.
Hope we figured this out.
In Luke 24: 4 says and behold two(2) men but in John 20:12 sees two (2) angels.
Luke 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold,
two men stood by them in shining garments:
John 20:12 And seeth
two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
Here’s more:
In the Bible ANGELS are CALLED MEN (
Gen 18:1-2,
19:1-11), so the fact they were called "men" is really moot and has no bearing on what they were. The strange "nature" of these creatures was unusual, and probably one reason why the Lord was determined to remove every last one of them from the earth, not to mention for the trouble they likely caused.
Nor can it be claimed that they were not offspring of angels because they LOOKED LIKE MEN, because we know that angels can easily assume a human-like form, and that their sex is always masculine (not "SEXLESS"). The writer to the Hebrews mentions that angels can be entertained without man’s knowing it (
Hebrews 13:2). Angels must be convincingly like men; the homosexuals of Sodom were very capable of judging sexuality, and they were attracted by the ‘male’ angels who came to destroy the city (
Genesis 19:1, especially verse 5).
So we can see that angels are CALLED MEN, and they APPEAR AS MEN in the Bible.
Whatever "nature" they had or did not have, the Bible does define the term ‘the sons of God’ for us.
God cares,