Types of Back Sliding

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Came across this and thought it was interesting, I'm sure there are
lots of other reasons and example too. But I found it interesting that the writer
attributes back sliding as much to the church as to the individual.

We can be quick to point the finger but never consider the reasons.

Sorry it's a bit long! Ps sorry it's bold it's just how it copied across and it
doesn't seem to want to change. Lol


Four Types Of Backsliders | cfcindia, Bangalore


The Bible says that one of the signs of the end-times will be a great apostasy
(falling away from the faith) (2 Thess.2:3).

Backsliding has become a very common feature in all churches now.
Jesus spoke
about four types of backsliders in the three parables in Luke 15 - represented by
the lost sheep, the lost coin, the lost younger son and the lost elder son.

The
Lost Sheep And Lack Of Fellowship

The lost sheep is a picture of a born-again believer who backslid. He went astray
because he lacked fellowship. Perhaps he was alone in a place where there was
no good church. Not having a strong enough relationship with the Lord, he was
dragged down by his surroundings. Or perhaps, he did not value fellowship with
other believers sufficiently, and thus went astray. If he had stayed in the midst of
the church, he would have been safe. But perhaps he was self-confident and thus
went astray.

There may have been other reasons too why he backslid. The attractions of the world
may have proved to be too much for him. Or perhaps he was discouraged by the
pressure of trial. He may have been deceived by the craftiness of men and demons.
Or he may have been careless in his walk with the Lord and gradually fell away.
The Lord describes His flock in this parable as consisting of "righteous persons
WHO NEED NO REPENTANCE" (Lk.15:7). The reason they don't need any
repentance is because they are judging themselves all the time and striving at all
times to have a conscience without offence towards God and men.

They are quick to confess the slightest sinful thought and attitude to God, and equally
quick to confess the slightest sinful word and deed to men. Thus they live each day
as those who need no repentance - because they repent constantly. The lost sheep
did not have this attitude - and so it backslid.

The Lost Silver Coin And A Careless Church

The lost coin was lost due to very different reasons. It was lost because of the failure
of the woman. The woman is a picture of a church. She was careless in taking care
of her coins.
The coin was a silver coin - and silver was used to redeem the firstborn
children of Israel in the Old Testament (Numbers 18:16). So the silver coin speaks
of a redeemed child of God (once saved) who is now lost. But this believer backslid
primarily due to the failure of his church.

His church was perhaps a dead church where the standards of God's Word were not
preached and so they did not care for his eternal soul.
Cain asked the Lord if he was
his brother's keeper. He was. In the church, every one of us has a responsibility
to "keep" our brothers and sisters from falling. So this parable is directed not at
the backslider as much as at the other members of his church (the woman) who
are careless enough to allow a coin to be lost.

The Lost Younger Son And A Spirit Of Independence And Rebellion

The younger son represents yet another type of backslider. He was one who
was impatient to launch out on his own - before God's time. He sought his own,
loved money, rebelled against his father and finally left his home.
Here is a believer
who wants to receive everything he can, from God and from his elder brothers.
But after he has received everything, he leaves them. Many preachers make
use of their connection with their spiritual fathers and thereby get a ministry
and a name for themselves. Once they have got that, they seek to become independent.

This son is a picture of a believer who doesn't want the discipline of being subject to
God-appointed authority (his father). God's purpose in all discipline is to break
His children, so that He can commit spiritual authority to them one day. But many
like this younger son, frustrate God's purposes for them, and end up with "the pigs"!

Only then do some of them "come to their senses" and return to the Father's house in
brokenness and repentance.

The Lost Elder Son And Spirit Of Comparison And Pride

The elder son is a picture of a believer who does not look like a backslider. He is a proud,
self-righteous believer who compares himself with others and who feels that he has
lived a better life and produced better results in his ministry than others.

Instead of humbly acknowledging these blessings as the undeserved mercy of God, he
becomes proud of what he thinks he has accomplished. Therefore God resists him
and very soon Satan is able to knock him down.

The first three backsliders in these parables finally came home. But in the case of the
elder son, we see him outside the house, at the end of the story.

The Right Attitude Towards Lost Sheep


Thd Good Shepherd went after the lost sheep until He found it. We who are
under-shepherds must have the same attitude. We must go after those who have
backslidden from the church through carelessness, Satanic deception and their lusts.
It must be the longing of all of us to be "shepherds after God's own heart" (Jer.3:15),
who can seek out the many such lost sheep around us today.

Many are quick to criticise these lost sheep, saying that they should not have wandered
off on their own, or listened to the voices of false shepherds, etc., What God is looking
for however are shepherds after His own heart who will go after these lost sheep
and bring them back to the fold.

The Right Attitude Towards Lost Coins

Thd woman who lost her silver coin was eager to find it.
So she did two things: She lit a
lamp and swept her house diligently, until she found it. These are the two things every
church needs to do. First of all, she needs to light a lamp. The life of Jesus is the
only true light(John 1:4) and this is what the church needs to hold up and emphasise
at all times.

Secondly, there is a lot of rubbish - sin and human traditions in the church - that needs
to be swept out completely. Only then will many lost coins be found.

The Right Attitude Towards Lost Younger Sons

The father of the prodigal son did not go looking for his son when he was lost.
He allowed his son to reap the consequences of his rebellion. And when his son
came to an end of himself, he came home on his own. He was not carried home on
anyone's shoulder, like the lost sheep. He came back when he was totally sick
and tired of himself.

God's love for such backsliders is shown in His not going after them, but allowing them
to reap what they have sown.
Many believers however lack this wisdom and seek to carry
these rebellious sons on their shoulders in to the church. Thus they ruin them.
On the other hand, these believers don't do much for the lost sheep. Thus because
they lack discernment, they console those who should be rebuked, and rebuke those
who should be consoled.

Feeding rebellious sons of God will only ensure that they never return to God.
Such acts are not acts of compassion but acts of folly. Such foolish actions make these
lost sons stay out in the far country even longer - and in some cases forever.

When the prodigal son returned, the father made him sit at his right hand.
He didn't place his son on probation or make him live in the servant's quarters - because
his son had come back in brokenness and repentance - on his own, without anyone
having to persuade him.
When rebellious sons return to the church in true brokenness
and repentance, our hearts must be wide open to welcome them.

Here is where we see the difference in attitude between those who are like God and those
who are like the Pharisees. It will certainly take time for confidence to be restored
in such a prodigal son who was once rebellious. But if he has repented, he must be
accepted immediately, warmly, and wholeheartedly, even if he is not given any
ministry in the church for many years.

The Right Attitude Towards Lost Elder Sons

In the case of the elder son, the father went outside the house and pleaded with him
repeatedly. But the older boy would not yield. Jesus left the story open-ended
at this point, leaving it to our imagination to decide what happened to him finally.

There are two possibilities: Either, he may have yielded to his father's pleadings
and finally come back home, with his head held high. Or he may have rejected
his father's pleadings and gone out into the darkness. Whichever way he may
have chosen, he lost the place of honour in his home, for that had already been
given to his younger brother.

The father had already given his ring and the seat at his right hand to his younger son.
There is a vast difference between "prodigal sons" and "elder brothers".

Prodigal sons are convinced of their sin on their own and repent deeply and seek
no place of honour in the church. They only want to be slaves until the end of their
lives. They are truly broken. "Elder sons" however have to be repeatedly spoken
to, before they are convinced. And even when they are convinced, they seek to come
back to their place of honour in the church - as kings and not as slaves.

King Saul knew that he had sinned. But he wanted to confess his sin privately
to Samuel. He told Samuel, "I have sinned; but please honour me now before
the elders of my people and before Israel" (1 Sam.15:30). King David also
sinned - far more seriously than Saul. But he wrote a psalm and acknowledged
his sin publicly(Psalm 51).

Jesus told the Pharisees that their greatest sin was that they sought to justify
themselves before men (Luke 16:15). God hates this sin more than any other.
There is very little hope for a backslider who wants to justify himself before men.
God's Word to sinners has always been: "Only acknowledge your sin" (Jer.3:13).

He who has ears to hear, let him hear.
 
Good post, miri, alot to think about, and I confess, a bit convicting. I have the prodigal AND the elder-brother-type pharisee residing within, and I need God to rid me of both.

Btw, Brit friends, congrats, I'll say no more in case people are watching on delay.
 
Good post, miri, alot to think about, and I confess, a bit convicting. I have the prodigal AND the elder-brother-type pharisee residing within, and I need God to rid me of both.

Btw, Brit friends, congrats, I'll say no more in case people are watching on delay.
Unbelievable, we have overtaken China in the medals table and are 2nd as I type!
 
Thank you for posting this. Definitely something to keep in mind for my own situation as I am unable to attend church services or get away from the house (or host) study groups. Can't really have the regular checks from other people walking the path, and it's not something you can get, IMHO, online. I have to be diligent in my studies and in my practices or it's easy for me to get away from them, and I can tell when I haven't kept up with my walk.
 
Thank you for posting this. Definitely something to keep in mind for my own situation as I am unable to attend church services or get away from the house (or host) study groups. Can't really have the regular checks from other people walking the path, and it's not something you can get, IMHO, online. I have to be diligent in my studies and in my practices or it's easy for me to get away from them, and I can tell when I haven't kept up with my walk.


I would say we all have times when we are close to God and times that we aren't, blowing a bit hot and cold.

I was thinking today how fragile our lives are and how anything can suddenly happen to change
the way we think and how we do life etc. How easy it is in those moments to get a bit cold in our relationship
with God.

Generally I think most of us relate backsliding to a total turning away from God, but having read the
above article, it made me think that it is more subtle than that.
 
I would say we all have times when we are close to God and times that we aren't, blowing a bit hot and cold.

I was thinking today how fragile our lives are and how anything can suddenly happen to change
the way we think and how we do life etc. How easy it is in those moments to get a bit cold in our relationship
with God.

Generally I think most of us relate backsliding to a total turning away from God, but having read the
above article, it made me think that it is more subtle than that.

I went through a period right after I had accepted Christ where I would pray regularly, and I felt like I was just going through some motion. I think I expected something to happen and when it didn't, I got disheartened. Eventually though, I began to see and sense that my daily conversations with God were actually having an impact on my life, and I got really excited and I started talking the Lord's ear off. But as life waxes and wanes with it's stressors, my prayer life waxes and wanes in response. I know I should be better about taking time, making time, to spend even a brief moment communing with God, even if it is just to say "Hello", and it's something I want to get better about doing. For me, I think I get so wrapped up in my own little world that I forget that God is there to lend a hand if I'm willing to ask for His help, and that by not doing that or keeping in touch regularly, I am being somewhat neglectful.
 
I went through a period right after I had accepted Christ where I would pray regularly, and I felt like I was just going through some motion. I think I expected something to happen and when it didn't, I got disheartened. Eventually though, I began to see and sense that my daily conversations with God were actually having an impact on my life, and I got really excited and I started talking the Lord's ear off. But as life waxes and wanes with it's stressors, my prayer life waxes and wanes in response. I know I should be better about taking time, making time, to spend even a brief moment communing with God, even if it is just to say "Hello", and it's something I want to get better about doing. For me, I think I get so wrapped up in my own little world that I forget that God is there to lend a hand if I'm willing to ask for His help, and that by not doing that or keeping in touch regularly, I am being somewhat neglectful.
Whether you know it or not, something did happen when you prayed...God heard you. He may not respond as one would like or are hoping, but rest assured He listens.
 
Whether you know it or not, something did happen when you prayed...God heard you. He may not respond as one would like or are hoping, but rest assured He listens.

The older gentleman who aided me in my coming to the Lord said "God hears all prayers Jon. He answers all prayers too, even if sometimes the answer is NO."
 
One thing not mentioned here is depression. This is satans greatest weapon against us as it takes our focus off of God and puts it on self. This causes backsliding because it doesnt matter what we do any more because God doesnt care. We are in such a state of despair that God no longer cares so why should we. Most Christians think of backsliding as just going back to a sinfull life. Backsliding also includes questioning our faith or God. Backsliding can be defined as "a dissasociation from God". Yes this can be going back to a sinful life but also a questioning of God.

I now know what you are thinking. "Yeah, ok how do you know this? Backsliding is going back to leading a sinful life...period!". I know this because i am depressed and I am questioning God. I am backsliding in my faith. Kind of funny as i know Gods Word and i know what He sacrifised for me. I am not a "holier than tho", "puffed up" Pharisee but yeah i know Gods Word.

What the heck? Why am i sharing this? Why am i admiting depression as a Christian? Because maybe my state at this moment can help someone else. Because maybe my candidness can help someone else with their "backsliding". Maybe through my admission it can push someone else back to God.

Dont "tell me what to do" or "how to recover" from my depression. If you read the story of Job you will see what happened when his "friends" finally startef talking too him...they made it worse. The best you can do when you know someone is backsliding is pray that God will help them. It isnt your job to "fix" them, its Gods. Yes God can work through you but let God do the work and allow Him to use you in the best way.
 
One thing not mentioned here is depression. This is satans greatest weapon against us as it takes our focus off of God and puts it on self. This causes backsliding because it doesnt matter what we do any more because God doesnt care. We are in such a state of despair that God no longer cares so why should we. Most Christians think of backsliding as just going back to a sinfull life. Backsliding also includes questioning our faith or God. Backsliding can be defined as "a dissasociation from God". Yes this can be going back to a sinful life but also a questioning of God.

I now know what you are thinking. "Yeah, ok how do you know this? Backsliding is going back to leading a sinful life...period!". I know this because i am depressed and I am questioning God. I am backsliding in my faith. Kind of funny as i know Gods Word and i know what He sacrifised for me. I am not a "holier than tho", "puffed up" Pharisee but yeah i know Gods Word.

What the heck? Why am i sharing this? Why am i admiting depression as a Christian? Because maybe my state at this moment can help someone else. Because maybe my candidness can help someone else with their "backsliding". Maybe through my admission it can push someone else back to God.

Dont "tell me what to do" or "how to recover" from my depression. If you read the story of Job you will see what happened when his "friends" finally startef talking too him...they made it worse. The best you can do when you know someone is backsliding is pray that God will help them. It isnt your job to "fix" them, its Gods. Yes God can work through you but let God do the work and allow Him to use you in the best way.


I think we all get depressed at times in our lives,
there are varying degrees of depression from feeling a bit blue to feeling utterly helpless
and no hope. It's not talked about enough but it's out there and very common. It's also in the
bible. There are some really good Christian books on the subject. Depression is as much a
physical ailment as a physiological one. It effects the bodies chemistry and the way the brain
functions. It causes hormonal imbalances both in men and women. Because it effects the brain
it causes real physical problems which people don't always realise.

Recovery takes a while like any illness and you can't just snap out of it. But I think the first
part of the recovery is to realise you have a problem and to take action to help yourself.
Even if it's to see a doctor or chat about it. It's a positive step in the right direction.
Every little positive step no matter how small, helps.

Routine helps as well.




Im always reminded of Elijah, he was depressed and fearful, so much that he tried to shut himself
away from God and the world. Did God hit him with a big stick? No first he allowed Elijah some
time out and first God dealt with his physical needs. Then God gently dealt with Elijah's emotional
needs.

I think God's knows exactly what each one of us needs, for some they need rest, for others they need
activity. I think that also for some they need to be brought to a place where they reach the end of themselves,
an end to their own resources. That's when they start to properly rely on God's resources. That's me
as I am far too independent. :)

Read Elijah, meditate on it, pray over it, see God's love in that story and think about how much
God cares for you and wants to restore you.



You might also find this helpful, it's the UK NHS website.

Clinical depression - NHS Choices



1 Kings 19:1-10 NKJV
[1] And Ahab told Jezebel all that Elijah had done, also how he had executed all
the prophets with the sword. [2] Then Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah, saying,
"So let the gods do to me, and more also, if I do not make your life as the life of
one of them by tomorrow about this time."

[3] And when he saw that, he arose and ran for his life, and went to Beersheba,
which belongs to Judah, and left his servant there. [4] But he himself went a day's
journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree. And he
prayed that he might die, and said, "It is enough! Now, LORD, take my life, for I am
no better than my fathers!"

[5] Then as he lay and slept under a broom tree, suddenly an angel touched him,
and said to him, "Arise and eat." [6] Then he looked, and there by his head was a
cake baked on coals, and a jar of water. So he ate and drank, and lay down again.

[7] And the angel of the LORD came back the second time, and touched him, and
said, "Arise and eat, because the journey is too great for you." [8] So he arose,
and ate and drank; and he went in the strength of that food forty days and forty
nights as far as Horeb, the mountain of God.

[9] And there he went into a cave, and spent the night in that place; and behold,
the word of the LORD came to him, and He said to him, "What are you doing here,
Elijah?" [10] So he said, "I have been very zealous for the LORD God of hosts; for
the children of Israel have forsaken Your covenant, torn down Your altars, and killed
Your prophets with the sword. I alone am left; and they seek to take my life."
 
Depression, being one of my constant struggles, makes faith a difficult thing to qualify/quantify for me. At least now though, I have someone to talk to about the things that bother me (that someone being God), and I don't have to worry about human judgment for them since He already knows everything about me. He is a great sounding board though and it's helped me a lot to sometimes just lay it all out there in my moments of desperation and feel relieved of their weight. I don't know if I made any sense with that.
 
Depression, being one of my constant struggles, makes faith a difficult thing to qualify/quantify for me. At least now though, I have someone to talk to about the things that bother me (that someone being God), and I don't have to worry about human judgment for them since He already knows everything about me. He is a great sounding board though and it's helped me a lot to sometimes just lay it all out there in my moments of desperation and feel relieved of their weight. I don't know if I made any sense with that.


You did. :) I often chat to God throughout the day, prayer doesn't have to start with
Our Father and end with Amen.
 
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I think we all get depressed at times in our lives,
there are varying degrees of depression from feeling a bit blue to feeling utterly helpless
and no hope. It's not talked about enough but it's out there and very common. It's also in the
bible. There are some really good Christian books on the subject. Depression is as much a
physical ailment as a physiological one. It effects the bodies chemistry and the way the brain
functions. It causes hormonal imbalances both in men and women. Because it effects the brain
it causes real physical problems which people don't always realise.

Recovery takes a while like any illness and you can't just snap out of it. But I think the first
part of the recovery is to realise you have a problem and to take action to help yourself.
Even if it's to see a doctor or chat about it. It's a positive step in the right direction.
Every little positive step no matter how small, helps.

Routine helps as well.




Im always reminded of Elijah, he was depressed and fearful, so much that he tried to shut himself
away from God and the world. Did God hit him with a big stick? No first he allowed Elijah some
time out and first God dealt with his physical needs. Then God gently dealt with Elijah's emotional
needs.

I think God's knows exactly what each one of us needs, for some they need rest, for others they need
activity. I think that also for some they need to be brought to a place where they reach the end of themselves,
an end to their own resources. That's when they start to properly rely on God's resources.
That's me
as I am far too independent. :)

Read Elijah, meditate on it, pray over it, see God's love in that story and think about how much
God cares for you and wants to restore you.



You might also find this helpful, it's the UK NHS website.

Clinical depression - NHS Choices



1 Kings 19:1-10 NKJV
[1] And Ahab told Jezebel all that Elijah had done, also how he had executed all
the prophets with the sword. [2] Then Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah, saying,
"So let the gods do to me, and more also, if I do not make your life as the life of
one of them by tomorrow about this time."

[3] And when he saw that, he arose and ran for his life, and went to Beersheba,
which belongs to Judah, and left his servant there. [4] But he himself went a day's
journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree. And he
prayed that he might die, and said, "It is enough! Now, LORD, take my life, for I am
no better than my fathers!"

[5] Then as he lay and slept under a broom tree, suddenly an angel touched him,
and said to him, "Arise and eat." [6] Then he looked, and there by his head was a
cake baked on coals, and a jar of water. So he ate and drank, and lay down again.

[7] And the angel of the LORD came back the second time, and touched him, and
said, "Arise and eat, because the journey is too great for you." [8] So he arose,
and ate and drank; and he went in the strength of that food forty days and forty
nights as far as Horeb, the mountain of God.

[9] And there he went into a cave, and spent the night in that place; and behold,
the word of the LORD came to him, and He said to him, "What are you doing here,
Elijah?" [10] So he said, "I have been very zealous for the LORD God of hosts; for
the children of Israel have forsaken Your covenant, torn down Your altars, and killed
Your prophets with the sword. I alone am left; and they seek to take my life."
Amen! God will bring us to the end of ourselves in order to get us to totally rely on Him and I believe that this is exactly what God is doing with Sac - I have told him this.
 
I would say we all have times when we are close to God and times that we aren't, blowing a bit hot and cold.

I was thinking today how fragile our lives are and how anything can suddenly happen to change
the way we think and how we do life etc. How easy it is in those moments to get a bit cold in our relationship
with God.

Generally I think most of us relate backsliding to a total turning away from God, but having read the
above article, it made me think that it is more subtle than that.
This sure is an interesting post i wanted to read (again) as i didnt really finish the last time. I am like the older son i think, and really need to change. We only ask God to help us.
 
Sometimes I think I'm like the younger son, getting on with things at
home but sometimes feeling frustrated and don't really want to be there.