Unconfirmed reports of 15-17 dead in shooting at Oregon community college

[Agricola]

It is my understanding that the murder rate in the UK has been higher every year except one, since they banned guns.

Not quite. However the murder rate for each year has been below 1000 for past 15 years 2011 to 2014 there have been less than 600 murders for each year. only a few dozen were committed by firearm. The murders also include people killed by drink driving. UK is not a dangerous or violent place to live, sure if you go to the wrong areas then maybe you would be mugged, but that is true for any city in the world.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Some media will not try to hide it.

Oregon Shooter Linked to Man Praising Islamic Terrorism: ‘Kill the Jews’

Oregon mass murderer [name deleted] is linked to a Muslim man who praised Islamic terrorism, a survey of one of his social media accounts reveals.

[Name deleted]'s MySpace features only two connections, one of which is a man named Mahmoud Ali Ehsani. Ehsani published a photo album titled, “Classic – The Mujahideen Collection LOL,” featuring Islamic terrorists from several countries, including Palestine, Iran, and Pakistan, among others.

One caption reads: “my brave soldiers keep on fighting for the liberation of Palestine against Israel. **** israel. Kill the jews. jews are the only infidels.”

Taking my cue from Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin, I won't publish the coward's name either.

The dumbass had a dating profile online in which he said one of his dislikes is "organized religion." Great. Don't like organized religion. That's no reason to murder Christians in cold blood.

 

[dcontroversal]

Can't remember the last time there was a mass shooting in the UK or Ireland, tbh. And as I pointed out earlier, our violent crime rates are way below the US's in reality. We have a far broader definition of "violent crime", but last UK census reported that just over 50% of violent crime victims weren't actually physically harmed. Violent crime here could be pinching a woman's bum, which we term as common assault.

If you really look at it, you're nearly 30 times as likely to be shot dead in the US, nearly three times as likely th be raped (not counting prison rape, which isn't a thing here. If you count, it, the likelihood of rape in the US is way, way higher). You're just as likely to be stabbed, robbed, or burgled in each country, but in the US, you're several times more likely to be a victim of car theft.

There's this myth that violent crime is worse in the UK, but it just isn't. I can't even remember the last time a cop was shot here, or that a cop had to shoot someone else. Most police in the UK don't even carry guns.

No..they just run people over with cars and then stab them to death and or cut their head off like the Muslim guys did to that British soldier...what would the Bobbies do...beat them with saps or clubs?.....and the last time I check the British population ia no where near the 319 million that the U.S. has....of course our crime rate will be higher!

 

[Omni]

It is my understanding that the murder rate in the UK has been higher every year except one, since they banned guns.

Nope. The number of homicides increased roughly proportional to population growth after 1997 (when guns were banned) up until 2002 (when there was a sharp peak: the year of the infamous Dr. Harold Shipman, who was thought to have killed 172 people), then it began to fall, and has continued to fall to the point where the number of murders per year is about the same as it was in 1970, while the population is nearly 20% larger than it was in 1970.

Last year there were 515 homicides in the whole of the UK, or 0.0008% of the population were murdered. In the US last year, there were 14196 murders, which is 0.0044% of the population.

To put that in perspective, that's 5.5 times as many murders relative to population.

 

[Omni]

No..they just run people over with cars and then stab them to death and or cut their head off like the Muslim guys did to that British soldier...what would the Bobbies do...beat them with saps or clubs?.....and the last time I check the British population ia no where near the 319 million that the U.S. has....of course our crime rate will be higher!

That's exactly why all my statistics are proportional to population. As for your idea of the UK, it's just plain wrong. Yea, a Muslim man cut a soldier's head off. One incident in how many years, not the 40 or 50 mass shootings you see in America every year.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Nope. The number of homicides increased roughly proportional to population growth after 1997 (when guns were banned) up until 2002 (when there was a sharp peak: the year of the infamous Dr. Harold Shipman, who was thought to have killed 172 people) ...

Amazing ... for its disingenuousness. You won't find a law enforcement officer in the U.K. who makes such an ignorant and uninformed claim.

There. Read it and weep.

And by the way, Shipman was only convicted of 15 murders, and it was pure speculation that he killed nearly 200 people If he did kill 200 people, the numbers would spread across his 33-year-career. They didn't all happen in 2002. U.K. homicide figures were not retroactively revised on the strength of his ravings.

 

[cmarieh]

I know that UCC has been on our hearts and minds since Thursday, but as we head into the coming week please be praying for all the students across our nation that God keeps them safe and sound.

 

[WarriorHadassah]

Crime Statistics, Focus on Violent Crime and Sexual Offences, 2013/14 - ONS

[h=1]Release: Crime Statistics, Focus on Violent Crime and Sexual Offences, 2013/14 [/h]Released: 12 February 2015

• The Crime Survey for England and Wales continues to show steady declines in violent crime over the last 20 years. Between the 1995 and the 2013/14 surveys, the number of violent crime incidents has fallen from 3.8 million in 1995 to 1.3 million in 2013/14.
  
• Violent crime victimisation rates have fallen by more than half since peak levels of crime in the mid-1990s. In 1995 4.8% of adults aged 16 and over were a victim of violent crime in the previous year, compared with 1.8% in the 2013/14 survey.
  
• Homicide has also shown a general downward trend since 2002/03. The number of currently recorded homicides for 2013/14 (526) and 2011/12 (528) were the lowest since 1989 (521). The number of homicides in 2013/14 was equivalent to 9.2 offences per million population.
  
• As in previous years, children under one year old had the highest rate of homicide (23.9 offences per million population) compared with other age groups. With the exception of those aged under one year, adults generally had higher incidence rates of being a victim of homicide than children.
  
• The numbers of sexual offences (64,205) in 2013/14 was the highest recorded by the police since 2002/03. As well as improvements in recording, this is thought to reflect a greater willingness of victims to come forward to report such crimes.
  
• The CSEW has not seen a rise in the prevalence of sexual assault. The latest estimates show a small fall in sexual assault victimisation rates compared with the previous year.
  
• In 2013/14, there were 7,709 offences in which firearms were involved, a 5% decrease compared with 2012/13. Offences involving knives or sharp instruments fell by 2% between 2012/13 and 2013/14 (to 25,972). These falls follow reductions seen in a number of previous years.
  
• The profile of victims of violent crime and sexual violence varied according to the type of offence. The CSEW showed that young men were most likely to be the victims of violence, while in contrast young women were more likely to have experienced sexual assault (including attempts).
  
• Women were also more likely to be a victim of domestic abuse, with 8.5% of women and 4.5% of men having experienced domestic abuse in the last year, equivalent to an estimated 1.4 million female victims and 700,000 male victims.
  
• In 2013/14, as in previous years, around two-thirds of homicide victims (65%) were male. In contrast, victims killed by a partner or ex-partner were more likely to be women.
  
• Victims perceived the offender(s) to be under the influence of alcohol in 53% of violent incidents. This is equivalent to an estimated 704,000 ‘alcohol-related’ violent incidents. While the volume of violent incidents that were ‘alcohol-related’ has fallen over time the proportion has remained relatively steady over the last ten years. Alcohol was a particularly prevalent factor in violent incidents between strangers, 64% of which were perceived to be alcohol-related.
  
  
  [h=2]In this release[/h]
  • 5 facts about alcohol-related violence
  • About this Release: Focus on Violent Crime and Sexual Offences, 2013/14
  • Chapter 1: Violent Crime and Sexual Offences - Overview
  • Chapter 2: Violent Crime and Sexual Offences - Homicide
  • Chapter 3: Violent Crime and Sexual Offences - Weapons
  • Chapter 4: Violent Crime and Sexual Offences - Intimate Personal Violence and Serious Sexual Assault
  • Chapter 5: Violent Crime and Sexual Offences - Alcohol-Related Violence
  • Data Sources and References
  • Reference tables (4)
  
  This release is a collaboration between ONS and Home Office analysts. It explores a variety of official statistics on violent crime and is based on interviews carried out on the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) in the year to March 2014 and crimes recorded by the police period over the same period. Trend analysis from both sources is included.
  This release is split into five chapters, each covering a different aspect of violent crime. The first chapter provides an overview of violent crime, summarising the extent and range of violent crime together with an analysis of long term trends. It also explores information such as the characteristics of the victim and the offender, as well as where and when incidents took place.
  The second chapter presents analyses of data gathered from the Home Office Homicide Index which includes murder, manslaughter and infanticide. The chapter discusses trends in homicide and puts the latest figures in the context of international comparisons. It also provides details on the characteristics of victims and suspects.
  The third chapter presents findings on the use of weapons in selected offences recorded by the police including firearms, knives and sharp instruments. It includes information on how they are used, and the injuries caused, as well as describing the geographical distribution of these offences.
  The fourth chapter uses data from a self-completion section on the 2013/14 CSEW which asks about experience of sexual and domestic violence. It describes offences occurring in the 12 months before the interview as well as those taking place since age 16. The chapter explores aspects of serious sexual assault and attitudes to sexual violence.
  The final chapter presents findings from the 2013/14 CSEW on violent incidents where alcohol has been a factor. Additional analysis on the nature of alcohol-related violence is also provided from the combined datasets of the 2012/13 and 2013/14 CSEW. This chapter also presents some information on alcohol-related violent crime recorded by the police.
  The Data sources section and User Guide to Crime Statistics for England and Wales give more details on each of the sources used in this release.
  [h=3]Other useful information[/h]This release explores a variety of official statistics on violence, and is primarily based on interviews carried out by the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) in the year to March 2014 and crimes recorded by the police over the same period.
  This release is split into five chapters, each covering a different range of sources of data on violent crime. The first chapter provides an overview of all these sources to highlight the diversity of violent crime. It summarises long term trends and explores patterns in the circumstances of violent offences, using the ‘Nature of violent crime (384 Kb Excel sheet) ’ tables from the 2013/14 CSEW published alongside this release. The second section presents more detailed analyses of the Homicide Index data with details on the characteristics of victims and suspects. It also puts the latest figures in the context of international comparisons and long-term trends. The third chapter presents findings on the use of weapons in selected offences recorded by the police including firearms, knives and sharp instruments. It covers, how the weapons were used, the injuries caused, and describes the geographical distribution of these offences. The fourth section presents findings from the 2013/14 Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) self-completion module on intimate violence which is asked of adults aged 16-59. This covers experience of emotional, financial and physical abuse by partners or family members, as well as sexual assaults and stalking by any person. The 2013/14 module included a special focus on the nature of serious sexual assault which is also covered in this section of the report. The final chapter presents findings from the CSEW on violent incidents where alcohol has been a factor. This chapter also presents some information on alcohol-related violent crime recorded by the police.
  The CSEW is a face-to-face survey in which people resident in households in England and Wales are asked about their experiences of crime in the 12 months prior to the interview. For the crime types and population groups it covers, the CSEW provides a more reliable measure of trends in crime than police recorded crime statistics, as it has a consistent methodology and is unaffected by changes in levels of reporting to the police, recording practice or police activity.
  In accordance with the Statistics and Registration Service Act 2007, statistics based on police recorded crime data have been assessed against the Code of Practice for Official Statistics and found not to meet the required standard for designation as National Statistics. Data from the Crime Survey for England and Wales continue to be badged as National Statistics.
  Police recorded crime data are supplied to ONS by the Home Office, who are responsible for the collation of recorded crime data supplied by police forces in England and Wales. Police recorded crime figures cover selected offences that have been reported to and recorded by the police. The coverage of police recorded crime statistics is defined by the Notifiable Offence List (NOL), which includes a broad range of offences, from murder to minor criminal damage, theft and public order offences. The NOL excludes less serious offences that are dealt with exclusively at magistrates’ courts.
  Police recorded crime is the primary source of sub-national crime statistics and for relatively low volume crimes. It covers people (including, for example, residents of institutions and tourists) and sectors (for example commercial crime) excluded from the CSEW sample. While the police recorded crime series covers a wider population and a broader set of offences than the CSEW, it does not include crimes which do not come to the attention of the police or that are not recorded by them. Recorded crime figures are an important indicator of police workload. They can be used for analysis of crime at a local level and provide a good measure of trends in well-reported crimes.
  The full UK Statistics Authority assessment report on Crime Statistics for England and Wales can be found on the UK Statistics Authority website. ONS have published a response to the UK Statistics Authority’s assessment, including progress on implementing the requirements set out by the Authority.
  Following the Home Secretary’s acceptance of the recommendations of the National Statistician’s Review of crime statistics in June 2011 the collation and publication of crime statistics moved to the ONS on 1 April 2012. For previous publications please see the Home Office web-pages.
  For information on how to interpret the crime statistics please see the User Guide to Crime Statistics for England and Wales.
  [h=3]Crime Statistics Advisory Committee[/h]In line with the National Statistician’s recommendations an independent Crime Statistics Advisory Committee has also been formed to provide advice on issues related to the collection and presentation of these statistics. Please see the UK Statistics Authority website for further information and minutes of meetings.
  [h=3]Further sources of police recorded crime data[/h]Historic police recorded crime data tables can be found on the Home Office web-pages.
  Police forces publish provisional recorded crime data at street level on the police website (The Office for National Statistics is not responsible for the content of this website).
  [h=3]Further survey information[/h]Further Crime Survey information is available from the Crime Statistics methodological page. This includes:
  
  • A technical report providing covering all aspects of the CSEW survey design, including sampling strategy, field operations, response rates, weighting methodology, and data processing.
    
  • A copy of the CSEW survey questionnaires
  Anonymised datasets from the Crime Survey for England and Wales (in SPSS format) currently are available on:
  
  • The UK Data Service and the ONS Virtual Micro data Laboratory (VML)
  Researchers, including students, who need data for dissertations or practical work can use these datasets.
  The Scottish Crime and Justice Survey and the Northern Ireland Crime Survey can be found respectively on the Scottish Government and Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency websites.
  [h=4]Contact[/h]If you have any queries regarding crime statistics for England and Wales please email [email protected].
  
  The United Kingdom Statistics Authority has designated these statistics as National Statistics, in accordance with the Statistics and Registration Service Act 2007 and signifying compliance with the Code of Practice for Official Statistics.
  Designation can be broadly interpreted to mean that the statistics:
  
  • meet identified user needs;
  • are well explained and readily accessible;
  • are produced according to sound methods; and
  • are managed impartially and objectively in the public interest.
  Once statistics have been designated as National Statistics it is a statutory requirement that the Code of Practice shall continue to be observed.
  
  Crime Statistics - Pre-release access, Focus on Violent Crime and Sexual Offences, 2013/14