Understanding God’s election
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God's love is ineffectual with you who do not care whether everyone is saved but instead insist on believing
the reason some are not saved is because He shares your unconcern about souls rather than because
He allows them to resist His will in order to provide humanness/MFW rather than make mere robots.
the reason some are not saved is because He shares your unconcern about souls rather than because
He allows them to resist His will in order to provide humanness/MFW rather than make mere robots.
A non-sequitur answer. Besides, in your example above, you would still believe that God would give that young person a new heart only AFTER he came to faith and repentance by the power of his own "freewill". Therefore, that 18 year-old can't be in that bad of shape, right? I mean his porn addiction isn't life threatening that requires an emergency heart transplant, right?
So...we're back to the original question: What exactly is the purpose behind a new heart since your FWT teaches you that the old heart is sufficient unto salvation?
So...we're back to the original question: What exactly is the purpose behind a new heart since your FWT teaches you that the old heart is sufficient unto salvation?
That’s the idea .
“But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.
God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”
To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
For God does not show favoritism.”
Romans 2:5-11 NIV
They think to believe what’s there means your trying to save yourself because you believe the Bible
yeah I can’t discuss with you man
“But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.
God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”
To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
For God does not show favoritism.”
Romans 2:5-11 NIV
They think to believe what’s there means your trying to save yourself because you believe the Bible
yeah I can’t discuss with you man
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Although Pascal's Wager is seen as a sham by many unbelievers, perhaps some play the salvation lottery
as I have heard it called, and simply hedge their bets without truly believing in their hearts, since, according
to free willers, believing in the incurably wicked and uncircumcised heart is good enough after all, since they
claim man is born with all he needs in order to make that "moral decision," and pew warming, let us say Catholics,
for instance, believe they are saved simply by virtue of being sprinkled as a baby, so we certainly have plenty of
evidence in the world that believing what the Bible actually says is not required to believe one is saved, whether
one truly is or not. Oh, what a tangled web! Where is Ariadne when you need her???
as I have heard it called, and simply hedge their bets without truly believing in their hearts, since, according
to free willers, believing in the incurably wicked and uncircumcised heart is good enough after all, since they
claim man is born with all he needs in order to make that "moral decision," and pew warming, let us say Catholics,
for instance, believe they are saved simply by virtue of being sprinkled as a baby, so we certainly have plenty of
evidence in the world that believing what the Bible actually says is not required to believe one is saved, whether
one truly is or not. Oh, what a tangled web! Where is Ariadne when you need her???
The Bible says to be separate from the world. That is a command. That means I am choosing to be separated from the world because I choose to obey God.
But the Reformed platform is such that by not being any part of the process of becoming a saved child of God means they are lying to say I am accountable for following God. Not according to the Reformed. The only accountability falls on God 100%. So they in plain sense of their doctrine is saying, God made me be a Christian so don't hold me responsible for following God because I had no choice in the matter.
But the Reformed platform is such that by not being any part of the process of becoming a saved child of God means they are lying to say I am accountable for following God. Not according to the Reformed. The only accountability falls on God 100%. So they in plain sense of their doctrine is saying, God made me be a Christian so don't hold me responsible for following God because I had no choice in the matter.
