Understanding God’s election

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Kroogz

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Cameron143 said:
To the contrary, reformed faith focuses predominantly on what God has done, and doesn't attribute the actions of God to men.
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The Lord Jesus Christ paid for the sins of the WHOLE world. Sin is not the issue. He paid it ALL.

Believing in the Lord Jesus Christ is the issue..........You know, the good and the evil on the tree?

Reformed theology doesn't focus on God and what He did for MANKIND.


They focus on his creatures.
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GWH said:
Yes, and the OT also had a limited understanding of God's love,
thinking that it only included elect Jews, NOT Gentiles.
Jesus enlightened Paul, but some seem oblivious,
although they admit that God loves elect Gentiles.
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I have a question for you re this text:

1 Cor 8:3
3 But the man who loves God is known by God.
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This question is this: Does God also know any man who does not love Him?
 
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Kroogz said:
The Lord Jesus Christ paid for the sins of the WHOLE world. Sin is not the issue. He paid it ALL.

Believing in the Lord Jesus Christ is the issue..........You know, the good and the evil on the tree?

Reformed theology doesn't focus on God and what He did for MANKIND.


They focus on his creatures.
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That's because God didn't do for all mankind w/o exception what He did do for all mankind w/o distinction. Learn the difference already!
 
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Kroogz said:
The Lord Jesus Christ paid for the sins of the WHOLE world. Sin is not the issue. He paid it ALL.

Believing in the Lord Jesus Christ is the issue..........You know, the good and the evil on the tree?

Reformed theology doesn't focus on God and what He did for MANKIND.


They focus on his creatures.
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Are you reformed? Do you run in reformed circles? You do not. You don't know how the reformed evangelize. You're just spouting untrue rhetoric.
 
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HeIsHere said:
What happened to regeneration before belief? :confused::rolleyes:

[Freewill theology] has been analyzed thoroughly by many believer's and ultimately it requires a boat load of cognitive dissonance... so yeah that is why people leave and reject it, not from lack of understanding.

"Move on"... lol this dogma is indefensible especially after that Roman 8:7 debacle.
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FTFY. And I couldn't agree more. FWT has spiritually dead sinners raising themselves up from their spiritual tombs by the mighty power of their "freewill". It has spiritually dead sinners changing their own natures -- which God himself can't even do. FWT says that Ethiopians and leopards also have the power have the power to change their nature! "Cognitive dissonance" reigns supreme in FWT!
 
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HeIsHere said:
No, the reformed faith is on the decline in numbers and will continue to decline because of the truth be taught on the internet.
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Every group has been on the decline. The fact is, you don't know what is happening where the gospel is spreading most quickly. China, and all of Asia, is growing rapidly. So you are simply making assumptions.
 
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HeIsHere said:
You probably know this, but the truth will be supported to a point. This is how they have made their way into evangelical Christianity.
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Anyone can go back and read all the calvies posts and responses.........Try to find one that is not antagonistic to the true Gospel of Christ.

This post will at least make them get close to defending the Gospel for a bit!:cool:
 
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Magenta said:
That's odd... your Bible must say something different than mine. Mine has Jesus saying a bad tree cannot bring forth
good fruit... and that the mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so.
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You have to understand something here about Studier: He believes the sons of men can actually change their nature -- just like he believes the Ethiopian can change the color of his skin and the leopard can most assuredly change its spots.
 
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Kroogz said:
Is salvation equal privilege and equal opportunity for ALL?

If your focus is God.....Your answer is a straight up "Yes!"
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I've already demonstrated to you that since the cross there have been large swaths of humanity that never heard the gospel until the gospel came to America. You were never able to demonstrate how they had equal opportunity in salvation. Are you able to now?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Native Americans had access to the gospel before explorers came? Inland China had access to the gospel before missionaries arrived?
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Yes. Throughout the Bible we see signs and wonders. Types and shadows given to the folks who didn't have missionaries at their front doors.

Christ was slain from the foundation of the world......


His Helper(The Holy Spirit) has been helping since the foundation of the word.
 
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