United Healthcare CEO assassinated

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ZNP

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Joe Allen: Death in the Healthcare Machine

https://rumble.com/v5wh628-joe-alle...nce-coverage-for-families.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

One plausible explanation is that the insurance company makes money by denying claims and that in turn results in a lot of animosity towards them. This particular insurance company uses AI to figure out how to pay the least amount of money on a claim.

We do not know for sure at this moment if this is the reason for the assassination, but what we do know that is stunning is there was an overwhelming outpouring of sentiment when he was assassinated cheering his murder. It is a major red flag to see the level of hatred in this country towards these health insurance companies.
 
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How many people die because of decisions that man made regarding levels of coverage? Is that even in his ballpark?

It was personal. And someone had the connections.
It was a hit. The assassin had a silencer and killed the man in broad daylight.

Then,be rented an EBike to make his getaway.

I know about car rentals. Wouldn't an EBike rental reveal his identity?
 
ZNP

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MeowFlower said:
How many people die because of decisions that man made regarding levels of coverage? Is that even in his ballpark?

It was personal. And someone had the connections.
It was a hit. The assassin had a silencer and killed the man in broad daylight.

Then,be rented an EBike to make his getaway.

I know about car rentals. Wouldn't an EBike rental reveal his identity?
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No, an ebike is very easy to get without using a credit card. It also is very easy to ride going the wrong way on one way streets and if you know the cameras it would be possible to ride it into a park, change clothes and come out somewhere else to then drive away or go down into the subway.
 
Smoke

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ZNP said:
Joe Allen: Death in the Healthcare Machine

https://rumble.com/v5wh628-joe-alle...nce-coverage-for-families.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

One plausible explanation is that the insurance company makes money by denying claims and that in turn results in a lot of animosity towards them. This particular insurance company uses AI to figure out how to pay the least amount of money on a claim.

We do not know for sure at this moment if this is the reason for the assassination, but what we do know that is stunning is there was an overwhelming outpouring of sentiment when he was assassinated cheering his murder. It is a major red flag to see the level of hatred in this country towards these health insurance companies.
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I will probably be blasted for having this take on health care, but BECAUSE I'm pro-life, I do NOT think we should capitalize off of life. Insurance carriers exist to make a profit. I'm a capitalist myself, but there are things I feel are off limits, such as human life. The counter argument to universal health care is that government wastes money and wouldn't be efficient (which is true) and there would be death panels (fear mongering, plus there are already "death panels" only they are privatized by precertification requirements set by the corporation). This is an entirely different discussion but I kind of wanted to address what could be a possible motive for why the CEO was murdered.

While I despise insurance companies (I've worked with them for years) and am reminded of the people gambling inside the temple (interesting our bodies are analogous to a temple), I do not cheer for Joe Allen's death. I pray God could somehow use this terrible sin/crime for His glory though. I hope we get out of the business of maximizing profits off of human life. Those who cheer someone's murder missed a key tenet to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
 
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MeowFlower said:
How many people die because of decisions that man made regarding levels of coverage? Is that even in his ballpark?

It was personal. And someone had the connections.
It was a hit. The assassin had a silencer and killed the man in broad daylight.

Then,be rented an EBike to make his getaway.

I know about car rentals. Wouldn't an EBike rental reveal his identity?
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Curious what you mean by "is that even in his ballpark".
 
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ZNP said:
it would be possible to ride it into a park, change clothes and come out somewhere else to then drive away or go down into the subway.
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MeowFlower said:
Why would they? It isn't fitting. He was a CEO of an insurance company.
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True
I was being sarcastic.
Thousands of people died the last couple of days and the only reason this guy's death got a lot of attention was because he had a position and money. Anyone else and NY police would have filed the case "Unsolved homicide."
 
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MeowFlower said:
Why would they? It isn't fitting. He was a CEO of an insurance company.
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The health insurance industry from top to bottom is wicked to the core.
In my grandparents day, they could pay out of pocket a little bit from pocket to cover ER visits and not worry about a high pressured salesman insisting that they would die if they were not admitted and go through twenty thousand dollars in useless tests.
The insurance companies have co-ownership in the drug companies and will insist on their drugs. They are worse than racketeers, prostitution and illegal drug trade.
The whole system should fall to their knees and beg God to forgive them.
 
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MeowFlower said:
That's what happens in one of the most surveilled cities in America.

Those facial stills should allow anyone who knows him to identify him.

I would wonder if he's still alive.
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They had good enough video from the coffee shop. They had more videos at every intersection too. They didn't disclose those, but they have them at the traffic lights.
The people who hired him likely gave him an overdose to cover their tracks. That's the standard procedure of the villains.
 
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Smoke said:
I will probably be blasted for having this take on health care, but BECAUSE I'm pro-life, I do NOT think we should capitalize off of life. Insurance carriers exist to make a profit. I'm a capitalist myself, but there are things I feel are off limits, such as human life. The counter argument to universal health care is that government wastes money and wouldn't be efficient (which is true) and there would be death panels (fear mongering, plus there are already "death panels" only they are privatized by precertification requirements set by the corporation). This is an entirely different discussion but I kind of wanted to address what could be a possible motive for why the CEO was murdered.

While I despise insurance companies (I've worked with them for years) and am reminded of the people gambling inside the temple (interesting our bodies are analogous to a temple), I do not cheer for Joe Allen's death. I pray God could somehow use this terrible sin/crime for His glory though. I hope we get out of the business of maximizing profits off of human life. Those who cheer someone's murder missed a key tenet to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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There's already death panels.
It's an insurance agent telling the hospital patient affairs admin and hospice that they can get a big check if the patient checks out . They have calculated the max profit they can milk from the product aka patient. Then they profit from their deaths to the max. Every criminal agent wins the lottery except the patients and their families. These are mass murderers, reprobates in charge of the health care and health insurance systems.
 
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If he's not wearing a mask.
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Exactly. I read you can get a mask for as little as $4,000 (Edit: Oh wow - from $4000 a few years ago, to less than $50 today - I think it's probably a very good bet to say he was wearing a mask). I bet he was paid hundreds of thousands (or more) for murdering the CEO, so he'd be kind of a poor hit man if he wasn't wearing one. I want to know if the murdered CEO or his company had any relationship with the Clintons or any of those other slimy characters that inhabit the swamp, and perhaps was going to disclose something damning about their dirty dealings.
 
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MeowFlower said:
I know about car rentals. Wouldn't an EBike rental reveal his identity?
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Think how easy it would be to steal an Ebike or pay someone cash for a day rental, etc. If someone can steal a car I would think stealing or borrowing an Ebike has got to be much easier.
 
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CommodoreTeach said:
Exactly. I read you can get a mask for as little as $4,000 (Edit: Oh wow - from $4000 a few years ago, to less than $50 today - I think it's probably a very good bet to say he was wearing a mask). I bet he was paid hundreds of thousands (or more) for murdering the CEO, so he'd be kind of a poor hit man if he wasn't wearing one. I want to know if the murdered CEO or his company had any relationship with the Clintons or any of those other slimy characters that inhabit the swamp, and perhaps was going to disclose something damning about their dirty dealings.
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Yes, he obviously planned on escaping, was wearing a hoodie and I think gloves, so to have a mask is no great leap.
 
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I pray for the family. If this goes to court they'll likely see that video of his murder.
 
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America needs to fix its laws that allow the healthcare industry to price gouge in the first place
 
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America needs to fix its laws that allow the healthcare industry to price gouge in the first place
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The lawmakers who allowed it are getting reelected and wealthy for doing so. So yes, corruption should be rooted out of government. DOGE will in part do this.
 
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