US 'Will Force' Israel-PA Deal By Mid 2014

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The United States intends to try and force a peace agreement on Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA), IDF Radio reported Monday.

The radio station says the US has informed Israel and the Palestinian Authority that if negotiations between them do not advance, Washington will propose its own solution, that will include a US position on every point that is in contention.

In effect, according to the report, this will be an attempt to force the sides to agree on a solution formulated by the US.

MK Zehava Galon (Meretz) was quoted as saying Monday that senior US officials told her the US offer would be presented in January of 2014. PA sources also cited January as the month in which the US intends to propose, or impose, its plan.

The US moves comes after three months of talks between the sides which have reportedly made very little headway.

The US plan reportedly is similar to the Clinton outline, offered by President Bill Clinton in late 2000, which is based on an Israeli retreat to 1949 Armistice lines, and some swaps of territory.

The Obama Administration is reportedly determined to achieve “a diplomatic breakthrough” by mid-2014, and believes that Israel under Binyamin Netanyahu and the PA under Mahmoud Abbas are capable of reaching agreement.

Until now, the talks were based on the idea that the two sides negotiate directly, with the US only acting as a mediator.

The American decision to present a proposed agreement was reportedly communicated by several senior officials, including the Special Representative to the talks, Martin Indyk. Secretary of State John Kerry reportedly briefed Netanyahu on the matter when they last met, in Italy.

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US 'Will Force' Israel-PA Deal By Mid 2014

i sure hope so.
 
some people hate globalism...except when they like it... :rolleyes:

no globalism here, rachel.

just wondering about that democracy claim. ever gonna get around to it over there?

your country be getting something for it's money, shouldn't it?

:rolleyes:
 
US 'Will Force' Israel-PA Deal By Mid 2014

i sure hope so.

If the US stopped VETOING any resolution the UN had against Israel they would not be in the mess they are in today.

We will see what they will be forced to do. I am hopeful.
 
If the US stopped VETOING any resolution the UN had against Israel they would not be in the mess they are in today.

We will see what they will be forced to do. I am hopeful.

it's all talk. always is.
Israel has never declared its borders, for a good reason....it's expansionism.
Israel has never had any intention of abiding by international law on this matter, and no intention of accepting any "peace agreement"

the american-christian-zionist lobby throws everything it has at making sure no president ever "forces" (read: stops enabling) Israeli refusal to do anything it pretends it really really really wants to do...but those terrible awful palestinians just won't disappear.

after all - the Land Promises that were fulfilled under Joshua David and Solomon, but are actually mystically for today since there's a 2000 year mystery gap unfulfilled land promise to......eh...n.m. - don't know how much of that lunacy you are aware of. that thing that calls itself Christian. that needs all the jews to be in Israel before they get raptured away so 2/3s of the jews....oh...n.m.

<insert John Hagee nuke Iran rant audience hexagram flag waving video>

why doesn't Israel do it's own nuking - it has 500 bad boys out in the Negev. and untold numbers in subs around the world.

hey....wait a second....all nearly 2 dozen american intelligence agencies still say Iran isn't even seeking nukes....but the Negev.....tsk.

whatevah.

if Israel wants to keep building itself a giant ghetto, complete with walls and barbed wire, who can stop it?
 
just got a bad feeling about it........

uh....you have "a bad feeling"?

anything you can put your finger on?

meanwhile - over at the ranch (wiki alert):

The international community considers the establishment of Israeli settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories illegal under international law,[1][2][3][4][5] but Israel maintains that they are consistent with international law[6] because it does not agree that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the territories occupied in the 1967 Six-Day War.[7] The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Convention have all affirmed that the Fourth Geneva Convention does apply.[8][9]
 
uh....you have "a bad feeling"?

anything you can put your finger on?

meanwhile - over at the ranch (wiki alert):

The international community considers the establishment of Israeli settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories illegal under international law,[1][2][3][4][5] but Israel maintains that they are consistent with international law[6] because it does not agree that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the territories occupied in the 1967 Six-Day War.[7] The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Convention have all affirmed that the Fourth Geneva Convention does apply.[8][9]
just wondering that if they split Israel into a two state that it might be what is written in Scripture about dividing Israel.......but I know you disagree with all that stuff:)
 
just wondering that if they split Israel into a two state that it might be what is written in Scripture about dividing Israel.......but I know you disagree with all that stuff:)

I don't know about the dividing stuff but I do remember Zone saying something about having to accept Jesus was in the scripture. :)
 

The radio station says the US has informed Israel and the Palestinian Authority that if negotiations between them do not advance, Washington will propose its own solution, that will include a US position on every point that is in contention.

In effect, according to the report, this will be an attempt to force the sides to agree on a solution formulated by the US.

won't be the first time the US has tried giving Israel & Palestine it's own proposed settlement.

IDF radio is run by the Israeli military.

i think that explains the description "will force" -- which isn't the way that US diplomats describe proposing terms of agreement.

anyone have a link to a PLO article? interesting to hear what spin they would put on it.
 
Its usually difficult to have peace agreements with factions sworn to the death of every member of the opposing side.

How many times has Israel been invaded since 1948? Can you say self preservation?

I doubt the USA will force anything on Israel....after all we are not terrorists.
 
just wondering that if they split Israel into a two state that it might be what is written in Scripture about dividing Israel.......but I know you disagree with all that stuff:)

well, it's not that i disagree....it's that i'm pretty sure the reference to dividing the land was fulfilled already...by Herod:

Daniel 11:39
39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

just prior to that is definitely Herod:

Daniel 11
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

but just following this:

Daniel 11:39
39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

i'm pretty sure is Augustus:

Daniel 11:40
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

both Herod and Augustus divided the Land...so this could be about either, but pretty sure it's herod:

Daniel 11:39
39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

...

don't know if these links will work...if not you can search title/author and get the Scribd docs.

Land and Economy in Ancient Palestine
By Jack Pastor
(page 100-ish +)
Land and Economy in Ancient Palestine - Jack Pastor - Google Books

The Economy of Roman Palestine
By Ze'Ev Safrai Nfa, Ze'ev Safra

The Economy of Roman Palestine - Ze&#39;Ev Safrai Nfa, Ze&#39;ev Safrai - Google Books

The Works of Flavius Josephus
Antiquities of the Jews
Book 17
Chapter 2

Chapter 2 - The Works of Flavius Josephus

Ritter ("Erdkunde," xv. 226) thinks "Bathyra" is identical with the "Bethora" mentioned in the "Notitia Dignitatum"; but the Βαιθωρά, Βηθωρά found in Josephus is the ancient Beth-Choron. According to Richter and Schumacher, the name is still preserved in that of the village Beterre.
BATHYRA - JewishEncyclopedia.com

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etc etc Herod. so, pretty sure it was Herod...maybe Caesar.....but:

OBAMA?

pretty sure not:)
he's not in Daniel 11 at all.
 
Zone I guess I haven't been paying attention enough, but are you an amillenialist, or just a non-dispensationalist?

A peace treaty with Israel scares me. I'm a post-trib premillenialist. Whatever happens, I expect to be here for it.
 
Its usually difficult to have peace agreements with factions sworn to the death of every member of the opposing side.

How many times has Israel been invaded since 1948? Can you say self preservation?

I doubt the USA will force anything on Israel....after all we are not terrorists.

uh gag.
pre-emptive strikes on Iran....illegal attacks on Syria and ....eh. forget it.

"I doubt the USA will force anything on Israel....after all we are not terrorists"

night night.
sleep tight.
 
Zone I guess I haven't been paying attention enough, but are you an amillenialist, or just a non-dispensationalist?

A peace treaty with Israel scares me. I'm a post-trib premillenialist. Whatever happens, I expect to be here for it.

amillennialist anti-dispensationalist.
there's no future millennium.

there's no PEACE TREATY thing in the bible. anywhere.

relax.

peace to you in Christ Our Lord.
 
uh gag.
pre-emptive strikes on Iran....illegal attacks on Syria and ....eh. forget it.

"I doubt the USA will force anything on Israel....after all we are not terrorists"

night night.
sleep tight.

Hi Zone

He is fingers in the ears la la la la sort of guy. Don't get caught by his fishing.