USA HAS TOTALLY ACCEPTED 'GAY' MARRIAGE
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Ironic; it seems the more we "allow" degenerate behavior the more suppressed and attacked the church becomes. Seems tolerance is weakness in their eyes. And the more we tolerate the more they press in. Imagine trting to twach children transgender stuff in public elementary school just 10 years ago, much less 20 years ago.
So...No. we must hold the line. For the sake of our neighbors.
True, but at the same time, it could be a lot worse. But I still think there's still potential for things to be much better. I know a lot of people are fully convinced the last hour is upon us or something, but I don't know that's necessarily true. I think it's still possible for the ship to turn around, at least for a while.
Like I've said before, this gay-marriage thing is nothing more than people in power pretending to take up the cause of 6% of the population using "civil rights language" as a cloak and really using these people, to attack the bible, and bible believing Churches.
This is a cheap tactic, but I understand why it's working.
Maybe it's not totally a bad thing that it's working though... if it's working, that means a weakness that has always been there has just been exposed- and we only notice because it's been exploited. People either don't understand the bible, or don't believe the bible anymore. They're being turned off by immature Christians and "hate-churches" and such.
Refuting the psychobabble and worldly doctrines of men only goes so far; and even if they doubt themselves for a moment, it will probably just get dismissed as "hate". But if we actually got good at talking about the goodness of God- and if people came to understand the real goodness of God, I think they would start to ignore the identity politics and get on the right side of things. I like to think I'm a dedicated disciple, but I'm definitely not an evangelist by any means... maybe I should ask about this more, because we need evangelism- and not just evangelism, we need GOOD evangelism... I just don't think I know what that really looks like. I just know that prosperity gospel and smiling preachers on TV obviously isn't cutting it.
This is a cheap tactic, but I understand why it's working.
Maybe it's not totally a bad thing that it's working though... if it's working, that means a weakness that has always been there has just been exposed- and we only notice because it's been exploited. People either don't understand the bible, or don't believe the bible anymore. They're being turned off by immature Christians and "hate-churches" and such.
Refuting the psychobabble and worldly doctrines of men only goes so far; and even if they doubt themselves for a moment, it will probably just get dismissed as "hate". But if we actually got good at talking about the goodness of God- and if people came to understand the real goodness of God, I think they would start to ignore the identity politics and get on the right side of things. I like to think I'm a dedicated disciple, but I'm definitely not an evangelist by any means... maybe I should ask about this more, because we need evangelism- and not just evangelism, we need GOOD evangelism... I just don't think I know what that really looks like. I just know that prosperity gospel and smiling preachers on TV obviously isn't cutting it.
You are on the right track. Jesus said He came to destroy the works of the devil. If one steps back from all that is happening currently and view all of history, one would see that there are more children of God than ever before. And while there is still much work that is done through the sweat of one's brow, technology has made work incredibly less burdensome. And while childbirth is still painful, modern medicine has made it much more bearable.
Christians are already being arrested for refusing to make wedding cakes for gay weddings, perform gay marriage ceremonies etc. its only going to get worse
I am ok with the freedom of people being able to be in a homosexual marriage if that is their desire. I believe pastors have a right and freedom to refuse to marry them, and a owner of a Christian bakery has freedom to refuse to serve them wedding cakes. In a legal office I feel like it is a difference scenario because of it being in a nonreligious setting and focused on what the law permits. I don't agree with or approve of gay marriage.
Don't be a hypocritical , if those people are really fall in love, I don't think there has any problem at all.
Leviticus 20:10-16
These are obvious depictions of sexual immorality,An act of unbridled sexual immorality.
Romans 1:26-27
These texts are all about lust and
promiscuous.
Of course I can't tell the difference.......lust and fall in love.
That's for God to decide.
Leviticus 20:10-16
These are obvious depictions of sexual immorality,An act of unbridled sexual immorality.
Romans 1:26-27
These texts are all about lust and
promiscuous.
Of course I can't tell the difference.......lust and fall in love.
That's for God to decide.
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persistent
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Fortunately the cake baker was found to be in compliance with rights and acquitted. Almost sure this was recently delivered on my browser by MSN aggregator. Don't recall origination of report.
I don't think you, or many here that think the Body of believers shouldn't get involved on this issue, and this Bill that is VERY soon going to be codified into Law, understand what it means.
what this Law will do is force businesses, organizations, AND CHURCHES, to fully accept all aspects of homosexual, and soon polygamous, unions, at the threat of severe penalties such as losing tax exempt status.
What do you think they hired the 77,000 new, ARMED IRS agents for?
Please understand how this differs with a "well it's the world, so it doesn't affect the Church at all" attitude.
Several state lawmakers have already put forth legislation that if a parent doesn't recognize a child's desired transgender, or not accept their homosexuality, they can be forcibly removed from the house.
So how is a Christian going to be free to "bring up a child in faith" under these Laws?
If we are referring to the case in Northern Ireland, yes the bakers were aquitted. The media usually failed to mention that
the bakers didn't refuse to make a cake but only refused to decorate one with a "support gay marriage" slogan.
Sam-sex marriage was illegal in Northern Ireland at the time. It was made legal in 2020.
A little persecution might be good for believers. We've had it too good for too long.
"My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience." James 1:2-3
How many times have we heard: "The underground Chinese church is a model and example for all of us." But when persecution comes knocking at our own door it's: "Oh my, this simply won't do!"
I believe what we're seeing is the first glimpses of pretribulation rapture panic.
"My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience." James 1:2-3
How many times have we heard: "The underground Chinese church is a model and example for all of us." But when persecution comes knocking at our own door it's: "Oh my, this simply won't do!"
I believe what we're seeing is the first glimpses of pretribulation rapture panic.
Lots of arguments going back and forth about 'Gay Marriage'/LGBT/Homosexuality. Obviously the secular world (politicians/LGBTers/non-Christians) support gay marriage, homosexuality, and all the tenets of the LGBT movement. On the other hand, Jesus and Scripture make it clear that marriage is only between a man and a woman and that homosexuality is an abomination in God's sight.
So, to make the issue simple and straightforward, all you have to do is choose whose teachings you're going to follow, the secularists/LGBTers,politicians or Jesus' and God's teaching in the Scripture.
i'll follow Joshua's thoughts, "As for me and my family, I'll follow the Lord and His teachings."
It's a simple and straightforward choice.
One thing though; if you do choose to follow Jesus and the Lord's teachings, then stand fast and be prepared for the persecution that is sure to come, just around the corner.
So, to make the issue simple and straightforward, all you have to do is choose whose teachings you're going to follow, the secularists/LGBTers,politicians or Jesus' and God's teaching in the Scripture.
i'll follow Joshua's thoughts, "As for me and my family, I'll follow the Lord and His teachings."
It's a simple and straightforward choice.
One thing though; if you do choose to follow Jesus and the Lord's teachings, then stand fast and be prepared for the persecution that is sure to come, just around the corner.
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persistent
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You're in a war whether you acknowledge it or not.
Laws must be based on something. If not righteousness, then something else will prevail.
IMO tolerating evil as long as we are permitted to sing at Church on Sundays isn't an adequate response to society's ills.
I think we should push for the right to bring up children in safety not only in the faith.
Lucy, you say, "I think we should push for the right to bring up children in safety not only in the faith."
Unfortunately, parents are sitting by idly/pasively while their children are being indoctrinated/brainwashed with the LGBT agenda in the public classrooms.
They are after the hearts, minds, and souls of the children. Unfortunately souls will be lost. If there's any way you can afford to send your children to Christian schools do so! The public schools are teaching an anti-Christian agenda.
A shift? How? While the US law allows all kinds of filth, the kingdom of God never allows such things. The US is not the kingdom of God.