Uvalde Texas school shooting was it real or fake

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chootchooot

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so am not a huge conspiracy theorist am not gona say the earth us flat or some other off the wall stuff, but i tried searching for a single picture of a EMT, police man, teacher parent, student with a single drop of blood on their clothes and couldn't find any.... columbine shooting was real and can easily find the proof it was real tons of pictures of people being carried out with blood everywhere...This was at a time with no smart phones with cameras, today evryone has a smart phone with a camera so there should be tons of pictures. The questions is does anyone have proof this shooting was real? or are we supposed to trust the fake news that this was real just like Russia collusion, Trumps golden showers in Russia and all the other honest reporting from cnn?
 
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Ever heard of the concept of Occam's razor? The idea that has to make the fewest assumptions it's usually The logical path you want to pursue
So what's more likely?
An entire town is in on the line and not a single whistleblower has come forward or it really happened?
 
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Dude653 said:
Ever heard of the concept of Occam's razor? The idea that has to make the fewest assumptions it's usually The logical path you want to pursue
So what's more likely?
An entire town is in on the line and not a single whistleblower has come forward or it really happened?
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The conspiracy theory phenomenon, like flat earthers for example, is a phenomenon which started as a distrust of news from authorities. So as the time has gone by and with the rise of the internet, the followers of such ideas have gone full crazy.
 
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chootchooot said:
so am not a huge conspiracy theorist am not gona say the earth us flat or some other off the wall stuff, but i tried searching for a single picture of a EMT, police man, teacher parent, student with a single drop of blood on their clothes and couldn't find any.... columbine shooting was real and can easily find the proof it was real tons of pictures of people being carried out with blood everywhere...This was at a time with no smart phones with cameras, today evryone has a smart phone with a camera so there should be tons of pictures. The questions is does anyone have proof this shooting was real? or are we supposed to trust the fake news that this was real just like Russia collusion, Trumps golden showers in Russia and all the other honest reporting from cnn?
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I don't know what happened to the many videos that parents would be taking of their children as they reunited or went to the hospital. I believe that the shooting happened, but there are a lot of questions that should still be answered. I think that goes for the other mass shootings too.
 
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Dude653 said:
Ever heard of the concept of Occam's razor? The idea that has to make the fewest assumptions it's usually The logical path you want to pursue
So what's more likely?
An entire town is in on the line and not a single whistleblower has come forward or it really happened?
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Agree its seems far fetched but am just asking if anyone has proof it was real, with all the parents and people with cameras why not a single picture with a drop of blood? i can find tons of pictures of columbine shooting proving it was real but why not this shooting? also real shootings have more injured than casualties, columbine had like twice as many injured than casualties so why only 2 injured in the ulvade shooting?
 
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chootchooot said:
Agree its seems far fetched but am just asking if anyone has proof it was real, with all the parents and people with cameras why not a single picture with a drop of blood? i can find tons of pictures of columbine shooting proving it was real but why not this shooting? also real shootings have more injured than casualties, columbine had like twice as many injured than casualties so why only 2 injured in the ulvade shooting?
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Okay let me try.
‘Since Columbine the media has agreed not to glorify these massacres but sometimes these massacres are streamed live so the killer can get the glory that the media denies. The supermarket shooter is one recent example where he streamed his killings on a live gaming platform called Twitch.

‘’Makes sense to you?
 
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Okay let me try.
‘Since Columbine the media has agreed not to glorify these massacres but sometimes these massacres are streamed live so the killer can get the glory that the media denies. The supermarket shooter is one recent example where he streamed his killings on a live gaming platform called Twitch.

‘’Makes sense to you?
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i never researched the supermarket shooting, but to show kids being carried away my policemen EMTs etc isnt glorifying a shooter, also there were more cameras there from parents teachers etc than there was from the media
 
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i never researched the supermarket shooting, but to show kids being carried away my policemen EMTs etc isnt glorifying a shooter, also there were more cameras there from parents teachers etc than there was from the media
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I agree. There are pictures and camera footage of everything, and this incident was highly reported and politicized... you can see coverage of the entire incident online- except for casualties. But, hiding the casualties somehow ensures the killer isn't glorified... somehow.
 
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I'll tell you what,
I am a parent and I don't allow permissions for my childrens images to be used publicly.
When they were in public school, we signed forms every year saying they may not use images of my children without written consent. That means, school websites, calendars, news letters, etc. There were some staff members who worked extra hard sorting photos before things could print because of parents choosing that option.

Now, that being said, if my kids were in the middle of something so horrifying I would be working round the clock to ensure that EVERY video, EVERY still photo EVERY image with them in it without mine/husbands approval that had been posted was quickly removed.

I'm sure there are parents doing just that. That is likely why it's harder now to find stuff randomly posted, especially stuff from parents who stand around recording random things.
 
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There are much bigger questions than why don't we have pictures of EMTs.

1. Why was the door to the school sabotaged?

2. What are the odds that the one door that wouldn't lock is the one he came in?

3. Why do the cops stand there while there is shooting for 40 minutes?

4. Why are the cops preventing parents from running in there to help?

5. Where does this kid get the money for all this stuff?
 
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chootchooot said:
i never researched the supermarket shooting, but to show kids being carried away my policemen EMTs etc isnt glorifying a shooter, also there were more cameras there from parents teachers etc than there was from the media
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Sigh.
‘Look I don’t know you but I do know that when people ask these type of Alex Jones questions, usually the following things come to my mind.

1. They‘re trolling
2. They live a very sheltered life
3. They have some learning disability.
4. They‘ve gone crazy on the conspiracy meter.

Now to answer your question.
All of these shootings, almost ALL of them can be found in what’s called the ‘dark web’ but the media chooses not to show any violence, blood and gore. But the footage exists.
‘The same thing with the supermarket shooter. He streamed live his killing and the stream was interrupted but the footage was captured .
So these things exists on footage before you even bother to go on-site and check them out yourself.
‘’Does THAT make sense to you?
 
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ZNP said:
There are much bigger questions than why don't we have pictures of EMTs.
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I would almost prefer the conspiracy to the real answers to those questions. A staged crisis or gross incompetence and negligence? which one is really worse? I don't even know.
 
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I would almost prefer the conspiracy to the real answers to those questions. A staged crisis or gross incompetence and negligence? which one is really worse? I don't even know.
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There is another option -- Blood sacrifice to Baal and Moloch
 
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There is another option -- Blood sacrifice to Baal and Moloch
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The thought is disturbing to the core... and not totally unbelievable. "Okay teachers, during the active shooter, herd the cattle into the corner of the room for the slaughter." That's always how I looked at it when I was in school. I just thought it was stupidity instead of unabashed evil.
It is really boggling to watch the videos of police hanging out several yards down the hallway, and not trying to distract and engage the shooter... especially the police officer-husband of the teacher in the room with the shooter. Take a moment to talk to God on the way down the hallway to the classroom, and then go in there and kill that guy.
 
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Eli1 said:
Sigh.
‘Look I don’t know you but I do know that when people ask these type of Alex Jones questions, usually the following things come to my mind.

1. They‘re trolling
2. They live a very sheltered life
3. They have some learning disability.
4. They‘ve gone crazy on the conspiracy meter.

Now to answer your question.
All of these shootings, almost ALL of them can be found in what’s called the ‘dark web’ but the media chooses not to show any violence, blood and gore. But the footage exists.
‘The same thing with the supermarket shooter. He streamed live his killing and the stream was interrupted but the footage was captured .
So these things exists on footage before you even bother to go on-site and check them out yourself.
‘’Does THAT make sense to you?
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so back to the original question i guess you have still have no proof this shooting was real, i dont have to go to the dark web to find pictures of blood, i can watch a ufc fight on cable tv and see blood, I dont have to go to the dark web to show blood from the columbine shooting, am not asking for pictures of dead bodies just a single picture of a teacher parent kid emt cop or even blood on the sidewalks, just a picture of one drop of blood and you cant find it? hmm wonder why... one of americas most bloody shootings without a single drop...lets just all trust cnn and the other fake news channels they are so reliable if they say the shooting was real let's believe them
 
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chootchooot said:
so back to the original question i guess you have still have no proof this shooting was real, i dont have to go to the dark web to find pictures of blood, i can watch a ufc fight on cable tv and see blood, I dont have to go to the dark web to show blood from the columbine shooting, am not asking for pictures of dead bodies just a single picture of a teacher parent kid emt cop or even blood on the sidewalks, just a picture of one drop of blood and you cant find it? hmm wonder why... one of americas most bloody shootings without a single drop...lets just all trust cnn and the other fake news channels they are so reliable if they say the shooting was real let's believe them
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I see. So you’ve gone flat earther. It’s all fake and all lies.
All right buddy, have a great journey and enjoy yourself.
 
Dude653

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chootchooot said:
Agree its seems far fetched but am just asking if anyone has proof it was real, with all the parents and people with cameras why not a single picture with a drop of blood? i can find tons of pictures of columbine shooting proving it was real but why not this shooting? also real shootings have more injured than casualties, columbine had like twice as many injured than casualties so why only 2 injured in the ulvade shooting?
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Because anyone who thinks an entire town is in on a secret and no one has come forward and blown the whistle is childishly gullible
 
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