Uvalde Texas school shooting was it real or fake

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Dude653

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I rarely post in the forums but I rem dude from like 3 years ago he's just the typical woke cnn watching NPC, he doesnt think for himself his talking points are so predictable alex jones tin foil hat everythings a conspiracy the frogs are gay blah blah blah
No I'm just not gullible enough to believe that an entire town of people is going to be in on a conspiracy and not a single person is going to blame about it. That's cartoonishly stupid
 
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I know I'm pretty late on this but the Uvalde shooting was definitely real. I live just a couple of hours from Uvalde, and I have family that live there. In fact, my grand-niece goes to that elementary school and another cousin was killed in the attack.

So, without a doubt, the Uvalde story is
 
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don't want to be rude, but I am gonna be completely honest, there is way to much weirdness to just be explained away by "cause the TV people said so".
first; the school is less than 2 minutes away from the police station..... and with a population of over 15k people they will definitely have a few off duty or ready officers that would have been at the original shooting in minutes.
second; they are less than 5 minutes (only 2 miles) from a border patrol station.
less than a mile from a hunting club.
there are dozens of private businesses within spitting distance, including several autoshops, barber shops, several churches and a constables office right behind the school property. remember, the kid opened fire for several minutes before entering the school.....
Third; The US Marshals had the school shut down during the event for several hours.......
fourth; this happened in Texas........
finally; I was taught by police for several years as a sort of Junior cadet for almost 7 years (a boy scouts thing) from when I was 15 to 21. it's called the police explorer program. there is not a police officer alive that would ever be able to become an officer if they were to react like those officers did in the recording. the only thing I was thinking the entire time I watched the events was, "this looks exactly like my first active shooting training."
and it does. the only way those mistakes could have logically been made is if the people in those videos were not trained at all and were performing training. I have been through dozens, if not hundreds of those training exercises. I got pretty good at them at one point. managed to win a few state championships in something called SCALE (the South Carolina Association of Law Enforcement Explorers). might be able to find my teams or post, 84 I think it was (it's been years since then guys).

I guess the big issue here is that, the original questions are perfectly reasonable, and anyone disregarding them is really being blind. we are to test all things. not take what the Gods of the TV have to say about it as Law. we have to test and confirm. and if something is not confirmable we need to be aware that the devil is actively working against The Truth to pervert the ways of Justice and bring about destruction and confusion. and he has servants everywhere.

lastly, i think we really need a big healthy dose of skepticism. if you don't believe that conspiracies are at least possible.... where have you been for the past 4 years? Don't forget that the US government hid the existence of the atom bomb for years and no one knew it was a thing until we dropped them in august of 1945..... they also DID perform MKULTRA and dozens of other evil things that I just won't bother talking about. these are recorded in public record now!
This is no longer the realm of conspiracy, it is reality. and we need to be able to consider the issues and deduce truth from what we can find. and just because someone says so is not a reliable source. That does not cut it any more guys, I'm sorry.

Jesus warned us to not be deceived. we need to prepare and be able to give an answer. because the devil does wander about seeking whom he may devour and the only weapons against him is faith and truth, more specifically faith in The Truth.
 

loveme1

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The false flag use is real.

Recently the media suggested Russia would use one. (Okay to accuse the villain of using them)

I will not delve into which events I suspect are not all as they seem.
A crazy nut job.. not today. :) No proof, only intuition.

My advice though, don’t call them out unless you have evidence rather than theory.

If young lives were lost in such a dreadful way, the last thing we should do is add conspiracy theories.

In the end, whatever comes to pass will be uncovered.

The main thing is not to let the tragedies steer you.

We witnessed riots here in the UK, over a man being killed by a cop in the USA.

I read about a different man being restrained and dying in police custody in the UK.. very low key report. Nobody went crazy over that.

I have come to see how easily people can be controlled. Minion mentality. My relief is that, the Truth shall prevail!! All darkness overcome.
Be in the world, not of it. Very difficult but Abide in GOD’s Truth and no one can deceive you.
 
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Again, the Uvalde attack was 100% real. I've been there and I know this is true.

Also, one of the issues that isn't reported often is that the schools had to repeatedly go on lockdown due to Border Patrol chasing runaway illegal immigrants. Whenever this happened near the school, the schools would have to go on lockdown for safety purposes. There had been almost 50 lockdowns just since January, probably due to Uvalde being so close to a border checkpoint. It is just human nature to become less vigilant over lockdowns when they occur that frequently.

Once the seriousness of the situation was known, I can't explain why things were handled so poorly. But keep in mind that this is a small town. One of those towns where "everybody knows everybody." There was no conspiracy. In my opinion, this was a small town and police force, that simply was not prepared. First, I'm sure nobody thought there was a real danger and then, once the truth was known, they simply were in over their head.

There are a lot of people, mostly outsiders, who are hating on the police and demanding that they be fired. But, if you do that, who will replace them? There are not a lot of people lining up to move to Uvalde to join the police department if everyone is fired.

So, to repeat, the Uvalde shooting was real and there was no conspiracy.
 

ZNP

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Again, the Uvalde attack was 100% real. I've been there and I know this is true.

Also, one of the issues that isn't reported often is that the schools had to repeatedly go on lockdown due to Border Patrol chasing runaway illegal immigrants. Whenever this happened near the school, the schools would have to go on lockdown for safety purposes. There had been almost 50 lockdowns just since January, probably due to Uvalde being so close to a border checkpoint. It is just human nature to become less vigilant over lockdowns when they occur that frequently.

Once the seriousness of the situation was known, I can't explain why things were handled so poorly. But keep in mind that this is a small town. One of those towns where "everybody knows everybody." There was no conspiracy. In my opinion, this was a small town and police force, that simply was not prepared. First, I'm sure nobody thought there was a real danger and then, once the truth was known, they simply were in over their head.

There are a lot of people, mostly outsiders, who are hating on the police and demanding that they be fired. But, if you do that, who will replace them? There are not a lot of people lining up to move to Uvalde to join the police department if everyone is fired.

So, to repeat, the Uvalde shooting was real and there was no conspiracy.
No conspiracy? How do you know that?

This kid was shooting outside the school and the teacher who came in that door that he used knew that. She tried to lock the door but was unable.

It this is not a conspiracy then it must be coincidence that out of all the schools in the area and all the possible doors he finds the one door that cannot be locked.

How does this kid with a part time job at a fast food restaurant and living with his grandmother have $100k worth of equipment between the two guns, the truck, and everything else? Coincidence?

It is absurd to think the cops simply had a bad day. The training videos that all teachers see every year make it very clear what the protocol is for an active shooter and it does not involve standing around for 40 minutes twiddling your thumbs while you hear this guy systematically shooting and killing people. So you are telling us this is all coincidence?
 
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No conspiracy? How do you know that?

This kid was shooting outside the school and the teacher who came in that door that he used knew that. She tried to lock the door but was unable.

It this is not a conspiracy then it must be coincidence that out of all the schools in the area and all the possible doors he finds the one door that cannot be locked.

How does this kid with a part time job at a fast food restaurant and living with his grandmother have $100k worth of equipment between the two guns, the truck, and everything else? Coincidence?

It is absurd to think the cops simply had a bad day. The training videos that all teachers see every year make it very clear what the protocol is for an active shooter and it does not involve standing around for 40 minutes twiddling your thumbs while you hear this guy systematically shooting and killing people. So you are telling us this is all coincidence?
You have a nice day.
 

Blade

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Not sure what the big deal is here.. we did notice "where" this was being asked right? "Conspiracy & Corruption Discussion"

Not talking about this one but there are so many things that have and do happen today that most just blindly believe what ever that (use to tv box lol) tells them.

As for people like Alex Jones who I have watched now and then over the years. He's not been around this long because he always has on that tin hat lol. The guy has been right many times its just he adds stuff to the story that.. well takes it out of the park so to speak. Yeah like hes always going to lie to us but CNN ABC CBS MSNBC NBC FOX always just tell us the truth? Some of these have lied almost as much as Alex Jones has.

Really? RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. At first how many just knew it was true :) Oh gets better some still believe its true.

So for me if I have to speculate.. not touching it.
 

ZNP

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HealthAndHappiness

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Again, the Uvalde attack was 100% real. I've been there and I know this is true.

Also, one of the issues that isn't reported often is that the schools had to repeatedly go on lockdown due to Border Patrol chasing runaway illegal immigrants. Whenever this happened near the school, the schools would have to go on lockdown for safety purposes. There had been almost 50 lockdowns just since January, probably due to Uvalde being so close to a border checkpoint. It is just human nature to become less vigilant over lockdowns when they occur that frequently.

Once the seriousness of the situation was known, I can't explain why things were handled so poorly. But keep in mind that this is a small town. One of those towns where "everybody knows everybody." There was no conspiracy. In my opinion, this was a small town and police force, that simply was not prepared. First, I'm sure nobody thought there was a real danger and then, once the truth was known, they simply were in over their head.

There are a lot of people, mostly outsiders, who are hating on the police and demanding that they be fired. But, if you do that, who will replace them? There are not a lot of people lining up to move to Uvalde to join the police department if everyone is fired.

So, to repeat, the Uvalde shooting was real and there was no conspiracy.
I'm sorry about your loss. Thank you for the insight.
I truly wish the police didn't cooperate with the murderer by keeping families from doing what police were hired by the community to do. I forgot how many thousands of hours of tax paid training their chief received to deal with that kind of scenario, but it proves that a petite woman with focused instinct to save children is worth more than a whole large team of police special forces trained for child hostage rescue. I'm not being sarcastic. Training did not translate to lives saved. The best they could do is prevent parents from rescuing the innocent. That makes those public servants accomplices, aiding and abetting the criminal.

May God show His immense grace to the victims families, bring healing to the injured and comfort knowing that their children are safe with the Lord.