wake up - the zeitgeist matrix???

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doubleedge

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Those who do not seek will not find. I wish to know the TRUTH of this world. Walk with me. Untill recently, I thought YHWH to be the name of God. Who else has seen the consistencies & inconsistencies of history? The NAME of God has been changed many times over the ages! Can YHWH truly be The God of the ages?
 
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Baruch

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doubleedge said:
Those who do not seek will not find. I wish to know the TRUTH of this world. Walk with me. Untill recently, I thought YHWH to be the name of God. Who else has seen the consistencies & inconsistencies of history? The NAME of God has been changed many times over the ages! Can YHWH truly be The God of the ages?
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Why is that name important for us now?

It is written that the only way to Honour God the Father is through the Son. We cannot honour God the Father by any other way or even directly for it is His will that we are to honour the Father by honouring the Son. That is how we shall be judged.

John 5: 22For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.


Philippians 2: 9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Is there any reason you are puzzled over the original name for God not being used now? From what I had understood, that name YHWH is the name of God and the Jews were forbidden by tradition to even say it because it is His holy name. So throughout the Bible, different names has come about to describe the one God.
 
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Even The Son of God came in The NAME of The Most High. He said himself to worship the father. The zeitgeist makes it difficult to know The Name that is ABOVE all names.
 
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John 4:21 speaks of todays world
 
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I'm hearing U out, I just need to know WHAT NAME, is ABOVE all names.
 
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doubleedge said:
Even The Son of God came in The NAME of The Most High. He said himself to worship the father. The zeitgeist makes it difficult to know The Name that is ABOVE all names.
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John 5:39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. 41I receive not honour from men. 42But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. 43I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. 44How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? 45Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 46For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
 
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doubleedge said:
John 4:21 speaks of todays world
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John 4:19The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. 20Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 25The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. 26Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

So then how do we come to the Father to worship Him?

John 14:1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? 10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. 12Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

So everything centers around John 14:6 as in coming to the Father through the Son. By getting to know the Son, you will know the Father.
 
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I'm hearing U out, I just need to know WHAT NAME, is ABOVE all names.
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Philippians 2:9-11 states that it is the name of Jesus which is above every other name.

Matthew 11:28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
 
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doubleedge I dont know if you are being humorous or that is how you really are, in which case I'd say you are under some sort of demonic oppression or bondage, at least not being of sound mind. Stay away from the conspiracy theories, the theories about the name of God being changed, ancient mythology , mithraeism, zoroastroism, and all the other garbage, it only leads to ruin, and stick to the teachings of fundamentalist bible teaching as taught in most mainstream protestant denominations, which is 100% reliable. The truth identified Himself as Jesus Christ, so if you grow in knowledge of Him you will have all the truth you need for this life and the next.
 
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God did not choose to even bring his name (as ancient Israel knew him) over to the NT. There is no evidence that Jesus ever used it. He did not teach his disciples to refer to God by it, but rather by Father. The Holy Spirit never chose to reveal it in any of the writings of the NT.

The closest we come is the use of the term Hallelujah in Revelation. Hallel = Praise; Jah = Yah (sometimes rendered LORD)

An interesting element is that in the Greek translation of the OT we find the use of the term Kurios (Lord) employed where the tetragram is found (YHWH). This was a tradition started by the Israelites during and following the Babylonian captivity. They would substitute the term adonai (Lord) in its place.

This same method was used to quote scripture from the OT by both Jesus and the apostles. Interestingly many of the passage about God using the divine name YHWH (Yahewh/Jehovah) but rendered as LORD in many English Bibles are applied to Jesus in the NT under the expression Lord when quoting the OT.
 
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Doubleedge,

Do you even know what that German word (zeitgeist) means?

Do you know what the term matrix means? By the way the term matrix is used in the KJV of the Bible a few times.
 
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What U say is good council, but I'm not debating scripture. I'm meditating on the accuracy of the translations that have been "handed" down (as in down the line). I believe in the sacrifice that God made for us. I believe in the ONLY man who ever resurrected himself. Did U know that even in early Afrika, resurrection was spiritual doctrine for witch doctors??? But it wasn't the power of God. What I'm saying is that people only remember the parts of history that they are taught. The Word of God speaks of a falling away, that the Spirit tells me to separate myself from. Since then, I've been lead to many hidden truths! For example, did U know that the wood used to build the arc was from the Cypress tree? I can't explain how it is I know that short of seed planting in my heart. U see... the zeitgeist is like scribble marks over The Word of God, & The Word of God is Life itself, Truth, & Love. So how is it then, in todays world, with so many calling on, & being called by the Lord, that everybody will be chosen?
 
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zeitgeist means spirit of the time
 
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did U know that the wood used to build the arc was from the Cypress tree
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The NIV translates the term that way. Could this be how you know that?

The KJV says gopher wood.
 
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Further more... how can one study & gain approval without discernment?
 
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It is by study that we develop discernment.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Hebrews 5
12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. [/FONT]

It is also by study that one shows himself approved.
 
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Look for cypress in any jewish encyclopedia for clues! Let God lead the way. Cypress is a shortened word for Cupressus sempervirens.
 
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do this without itching ears... fear God... not The Truth! Man can NOT live on bread alone, but by The Word of God!!!
 
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Look for cypress in any jewish encyclopedia for clues! Let God lead the way. Cypress is a shortened word for Cupressus sempervirens.
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So what !?!?!
 
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be like minded... of one body with pure members!
 
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