Warning to Christians: Totally Refuse COVID Vaccines

[Nehemiah6]

Your lack of knowledge on world politics is appalling.

Really? Well take a look at this for Fascism in Germany:

Authorities have tightened domestic measures intended to combat the spread of COVID-19 as of April 24 amid high rates of infection. From this date, districts where the seven-day incidence rate of new infections is greater than 100 people per 100,000 inhabitants, for three days in a row, must implement the following restrictions:

• A nightly 22:00-05:00 curfew is in force, during which time individuals may only leave their homes for essential purposes; individual walking or jogging is permitted until 00:01.
• A household may meet with one individual from outside their household; no other gatherings are permitted.
• Catering establishments, cultural sites, and entertainment venues must close.
• Nonessential shops and businesses must close; in areas where the incidence rate is below 150 per 100,000 inhabitants, shops can permit individual appointments provided the customer has a negative COVID-19 test.
• Individuals must work from home where possible.
• Schools must return to distance learning where incidence rates exceed 165 per 100,000.

https://www.garda.com/crisis24/news...ovid-19-restrictions-as-of-april-24-update-43

 

[Aidan1]

Really? Well take a look at this for Fascism in Germany:

Authorities have tightened domestic measures intended to combat the spread of COVID-19 as of April 24 amid high rates of infection. From this date, districts where the seven-day incidence rate of new infections is greater than 100 people per 100,000 inhabitants, for three days in a row, must implement the following restrictions:

• A nightly 22:00-05:00 curfew is in force, during which time individuals may only leave their homes for essential purposes; individual walking or jogging is permitted until 00:01.
• A household may meet with one individual from outside their household; no other gatherings are permitted.
• Catering establishments, cultural sites, and entertainment venues must close.
• Nonessential shops and businesses must close; in areas where the incidence rate is below 150 per 100,000 inhabitants, shops can permit individual appointments provided the customer has a negative COVID-19 test.
• Individuals must work from home where possible.
• Schools must return to distance learning where incidence rates exceed 165 per 100,000.

https://www.garda.com/crisis24/news...ovid-19-restrictions-as-of-april-24-update-43

I am a german and live in germany. What is a problem with this?

 

[Aidan1]

Really? Well take a look at this for Fascism in Germany:

Authorities have tightened domestic measures intended to combat the spread of COVID-19 as of April 24 amid high rates of infection. From this date, districts where the seven-day incidence rate of new infections is greater than 100 people per 100,000 inhabitants, for three days in a row, must implement the following restrictions:

• A nightly 22:00-05:00 curfew is in force, during which time individuals may only leave their homes for essential purposes; individual walking or jogging is permitted until 00:01.
• A household may meet with one individual from outside their household; no other gatherings are permitted.
• Catering establishments, cultural sites, and entertainment venues must close.
• Nonessential shops and businesses must close; in areas where the incidence rate is below 150 per 100,000 inhabitants, shops can permit individual appointments provided the customer has a negative COVID-19 test.
• Individuals must work from home where possible.
• Schools must return to distance learning where incidence rates exceed 165 per 100,000.

https://www.garda.com/crisis24/news...ovid-19-restrictions-as-of-april-24-update-43

What exactly do understand under the word fascism?

 

[Nehemiah6]

What exactly do understand under the word fascism?

Fascism is totalitarian control of people's lives by the state and total interference with their freedoms. It is all about the state's power to control and manipulate people, just like Hitler manipulated Germans through his Gestapo. Now we have Gestapo in Canada.

Did you see anything in that list I posted that told Germans to take ivermectin to protect themselves and they would not need to worry about all the restrictions and curfews?

You should read this article (below) before accusing me of hate. It is your government (and all Western governments) who are showing their hatred and disrespect for people by preventing them from actually protecting themselves with simple and cheap remedies.

FLCCC Alliance Statement On The Ivermectin Disinformation Campaign

However, these PHAs [public health authorities] continue to ignore or disingenuously manipulate the data to reach unsupportable recommendations against ivermectin treatment. We are forced to publicly expose what we believe can only be described as a “disinformation” campaign astonishingly waged with full cooperation of those authorities whose mission is to maintain the integrity of scientific research and protect public health.

 

[Aidan1]

Fascism is totalitarian control of people's lives by the state and total interference with their freedoms. It is all about the state's power to control and manipulate people, just like Hitler manipulated Germans through his Gestapo. Now we have Gestapo in Canada.

Did you see anything in that list I posted that told Germans to take ivermectin to protect themselves and they would not need to worry about all the restrictions and curfews?

You should read this article (below) before accusing me of hate. It is your government (and all Western governments) who are showing their hatred and disrespect for people by preventing them from actually protecting themselves with simple and cheap remedies.

FLCCC Alliance Statement On The Ivermectin Disinformation Campaign

However, these PHAs [public health authorities] continue to ignore or disingenuously manipulate the data to reach unsupportable recommendations against ivermectin treatment. We are forced to publicly expose what we believe can only be described as a “disinformation” campaign astonishingly waged with full cooperation of those authorities whose mission is to maintain the integrity of scientific research and protect public health.

Then you should research little more about this word. Fascism has to do with nationalism which is mostly expressed through the rights. While Trumps reign I noticed that he was supportet through right radicals. They you can call fascists. In germany is no fascism Party in rule.
Maby you are little disinformed?
And today germany has nothing to do with Hitlergermany!

 

[PennEd]

Then you should research little more about this word. Fascism has to do with nationalism which is mostly expressed through the rights. While Trumps reign I noticed that he was supportet through right radicals. They you can call fascists. In germany is no fascism Party in rule.
Maby you are little disinformed?
And today germany has nothing to do with Hitlergermany!

Fascism is waay more than this narrow definition you put here.

Nationalism is only part of it. Control through a government/business alliance, terror directed toward opposition, a brutal oppression of free speech, and an expected adoration of the leaders in government is all part of fascism.

Germany, and many other countries, including America, have been getting closer and closer to a complete fascist state. Almost all of the above components of fascism are currently being enacted.

And you are completely ignorant of Trump. It is the left today that are actual fascists.

 

[Aidan1]

Fascism is waay more than this narrow definition you put here.

Nationalism is only part of it. Control through a government/business alliance, terror directed toward opposition, a brutal oppression of free speech, and an expected adoration of the leaders in government is all part of fascism.

Germany, and many other countries, including America, have been getting closer and closer to a complete fascist state. Almost all of the above components of fascism are currently being enacted.

And you are completely ignorant of Trump. It is the left today that are actual fascists.

No, the right are the racists and the Fascists. And many right wings worldwide copied the view of Hitler. And this for shure are not the left wings ( in deed they are not better). And it is a pitty that Christians jumping on this train.
The last thing what you can say is that Germany is a fascist state.
But maby because of our history the word fascism is combined with Hitler.
Germany becomes a more and more godless state, thats true.

 

[PennEd]

No, the right are the racists and the Fascists. And many right wings worldwide copied the view of Hitler

You have been lied to your whole life.

There was no real discernible difference between Hitler and fascism and Stalin and communism. Yet we have had it beat in our heads that one is left and the other right.

BOTH rely on terror, racial hatred, oppression, and complete government control over their respective citizens.

A capitalist, representative republic, that has the best interests of ITS citizens, governed by a Constitution, with enumerated equal rights (NOT OUTCOMES) of the people, is the only form of government that can make people both free and prosperous.

Trump was far closer to that vision of America than any other President in my lifetime.

 

[SophieT]

Short afterthought: You know Sophie, I've been rude to a lot of people in my life - and I always felt really really horrible afterwards. So, I want you to know I forgive you and hope that you're not too hard on yourself. I'm not ignoring you at all because you really need me!

your ego might not fit through the door

I have everyone and everything I need and nope...just checked and your name is not there

interesting how part of your brain just caught up to itself

 

[SophieT]

I know - this place doesn't even feel like a Christian Chat place at times. If it weren't for the entertainment some people provide, I think I would've dropped out by now.

I did notice that after you appeared....so off to ignore you go

 

[Aidan1]

You have been lied to your whole life.

There was no real discernible difference between Hitler and fascism and Stalin and communism. Yet we have had it beat in our heads that one is left and the other right.

BOTH rely on terror, racial hatred, oppression, and complete government control over their respective citizens.

A capitalist, representative republic, that has the best interests of ITS citizens, governed by a Constitution, with enumerated equal rights (NOT OUTCOMES) of the people, is the only form of government that can make people both free and prosperous.

Trump was far closer to that vision of America than any other President in my lifetime.

I agree. Well Trump did good decisions, without doubt, but he smashes a lot in presenting loving himself at most.
In my eyes, he was a Tool which was used by God, to protect his nation Israel.
I suppose we both wish for our countrys good, God loving leaders, but it will be worse in Future. ( I speak from Germany).
And Angela, even you dont see it, was One of the good Ones with all her weaknesses and false decisions she made in this 16 years.
And we must not forget, you can have a good leaders, but if the people between the leader and the folks are bad, they can turn good into bad.

 

[flygplan]

What exactly do understand under the word fascism?

Exactly!
I was going to ask the same exact question. This person (Nehemiah6) like so many here, doesn't/don't even know what fascism is apparently.
Fascism will always come from the far right. So anyone has any knowledge of politics and history, they would know Fascism would oppose liberalism ALWAYS. We people in the US use the word Fascism and Communism too liberally and ignorantly.
The only countries who are not communist but Socialist, and headed the closest to communism are North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela (a really bad example and intent of it btw), and China, although they've opened to Capitalism in the last 20 years. The rest of countries in the west use a capitalist market model. Their governments might be different from the United States, but this doesn't make them leftist or communists.
Now here goes a better conspiracy theory than the one on the thread: Wouldn't someone like Trump be someone who deceives the conservative right from the inside to destroy it? and therefore destroy democracy? (it's happening right now inside the GOP) Why then did he become buddies with N. Korea and Russia?

 

[SophieT]

Exactly!
I was going to ask the same exact question. This person (Nehemiah6) like so many here, doesn't/don't even know what fascism is apparently.
Fascism will always come from the far right. So anyone has any knowledge of politics and history, they would know Fascism would oppose liberalism ALWAYS. We people in the US use the word Fascism and Communism too liberally and ignorantly.
The only countries who are not communist but Socialist, and headed the closest to communism are North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela (a really bad example and intent of it btw), and China, although they've opened to Capitalism in the last 20 years. The rest of countries in the west use a capitalist market model. Their governments might be different from the United States, but this doesn't make them leftist or communists.
Now here goes a better conspiracy theory than the one on the thread: Wouldn't someone like Trump be someone who deceives the conservative right from the inside to destroy it? and therefore destroy democracy? (it's happening right now inside the GOP) Why then did he become buddies with N. Korea and Russia?

China is not a communist country? Does Xi know that? I'm asking cause he sure is putting on a pretty good representation of it

you are obviously not a regular contributor even though you are here since 2017. wouldn't someone like you, who writes the blather above just be here to troll?

yeah maybe

China anniversary: How the Communist Party runs the country

Since 1 October 1949, China has been run by one party - the Communist Party of China.
The party has led the country from the era of Chairman Mao to become the economic powerhouse is it today, but along the way has tolerated no opposition and quashed dissent.
As the People's Republic of China celebrates its 70th anniversary, we look at what role the party plays and how it runs China.
If you're in a hurry, read it in 100 words, if you've got time, in 600.

China is effectively a one-party government.
The Communist Party's leading role is enshrined in the constitution and while there are several other small parties, they are obliged to support the Communists.

(article)

 

[SophieT]

Wouldn't someone like Trump be someone who deceives the conservative right from the inside to destroy it? and therefore destroy democracy? (it's happening right now inside the GOP) Why then did he become buddies with N. Korea and Russia?

forget Trump. seems you are a leftie here to spread innuendo. I don't mean about Trump. Just about the right period, while promoting leftist ideologies

 

[SophieT]

What exactly do understand under the word fascism?

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

it is interesting how the left in the US has actually adopted and is utilizing exactly that type of control

while the right in this country, does no such thing.

so while one can go by the dictionary def as I did above, the meanings of words do change over time and we have a very good example of it in this country

 

[SophieT]

time for a little covid mask humor

 

[oceanbreeze]

A few months ago, you began a thread in this forum entitled, “Why Christians must reject fear mongering altogether”, and here you are fear-mongering.

If you were not so dogmatic on every issue, you might have some credibility.

Would you call someone who read Rev 13 a fear monger? The fear mongering is on behalf the world order. When the president of the United States gets on the TV and says, 'we must come together to fight this thing and EVERY adult in the US needs to get vaccinated' in addition to the talk of vaccine passports that will limit folks movements and potentially to buy and sell then who is doing the fear mongering? Something I wrote on SM:
"1 Thess 5:2-3 "the Day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying 'Peace and safety!' then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape." What stood out for me was "While they are saying peace and safety"... what has the message been from Biden's mouth? Unity and every adult getting the vaccine. that sounds like peace and safety to me. Confidence in the flesh."
These health organizations not only don't have any liability toward vaccine injuries they have a conflict of interest as they own the pattons and make money from the distribution of the vaccine. So Big Pharma and those who invented the vaccines are immune from liability and have a conflict of interest. oh, but these are educated folks in their field and why would they give people something that might destroy them or harm society. Doubling down on dismissing anti vaxxers to save their reputations and positions of power and money are all big motivators not to tell the whole truth to the public. Fear mongering doesn't have a place in a Christians life. The bible does though and we are to be as wily as serpents. Just read something recently about the new vaccine billionaires. Those who have invested interest and made money through the distribution. The lie is you hold someone elses life in your hands, no, God holds our lives in His hands. Sure, lets not be reckless. If you have the flu, don't go see grandma. Stay home. Be courteous. That is something this has taught us. But a one size fits all gene therapy vaccine that MAY alter DNA (too early too tell) That coupled with Rev. 13 and the vaccine looking at the very least to be a pre-cursor to the Mark of the Beast, for me, it's time to start saying NO to the World Order and the Prince of the Air.

 

[oceanbreeze]

"I would not listen to a street screecher for the same reason, regardless of the message being proclaimed."
And this is your pride, demanding the truth come in a nice neat box. Just like the Pharisess and just like the elitists of today. Model of decorum and respectability is more important in those circles than the truth. You reject personality and therefore feel justified to reject truth. You're in good company...half the country did it with Trump

 

[Aidan1]

Exactly!
I was going to ask the same exact question. This person (Nehemiah6) like so many here, doesn't/don't even know what fascism is apparently.
Fascism will always come from the far right. So anyone has any knowledge of politics and history, they would know Fascism would oppose liberalism ALWAYS. We people in the US use the word Fascism and Communism too liberally and ignorantly.
The only countries who are not communist but Socialist, and headed the closest to communism are North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela (a really bad example and intent of it btw), and China, although they've opened to Capitalism in the last 20 years. The rest of countries in the west use a capitalist market model. Their governments might be different from the United States, but this doesn't make them leftist or communists.
Now here goes a better conspiracy theory than the one on the thread: Wouldn't someone like Trump be someone who deceives the conservative right from the inside to destroy it? and therefore destroy democracy? (it's happening right now inside the GOP) Why then did he become buddies with N. Korea and Russia?

Its a good question. So long I could think back I like America very much. And so much I tryed to see in Trump a good buddy, his behaviour with russia and north corea ore his behaviour with His selflove shows me that he is doing everything to keep his power. Everything!

 

[Aidan1]

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

it is interesting how the left in the US has actually adopted and is utilizing exactly that type of control

while the right in this country, does no such thing.

so while one can go by the dictionary def as I did above, the meanings of words do change over time and we have a very good example of it in this country

What i noticed in your country is that the gap between rep and dem is very deep and it involves also the Christians. And I asked me why?