Wars and rumors of war.

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🚨Churches Under Imminent Threat - Security Level Raised to RED
 

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🚨Churches Under Imminent Threat - Security Level Raised to RED
Churches, Christians, and Christian outreach programs are pretty much the most hated things in the world. Pretty sure Jesus warned everyone already. It will just make believers more strong in their faith, and push the rest further away from God.
 

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"More alarmingly still, Trump said that we may end up in World War Three before inauguration day.


“It’s getting really bad over there, I’ll tell you, the Russia/Ukraine, it’s getting really bad. You could have World War Three,” Trump said on the PBD podcast at 58:40. “And even the three or four months left [before the inauguration], that’s a lot of months, that’s a lot of time left, you could have World War Three even before I take office if I was elected.”

Trump said the true cost of the conflict is much bigger than people know.

“This is a war that should have never happened, you have millions of people who are dead, much more than you’re reading about,” Trump said on the PBD podcast at 1:02:45, going on to talk about the massive amount of destruction and loss of human life that he said is being under-reported.""

https://www.infowars.com/posts/trum...-zelensky-lost-the-war-that-biden-provoked-it
 

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"TEHRAN/ISLAMABAD - Iran warned on Saturday it would defend itself after Israeli air strikes killed at least two soldiers and further stoked fears of a full-scale regional war in the Middle East.

Israel warned Iran would “pay a heavy price” if it responded to the strikes, and the United States, Germany and Britain demanded Tehran not escalate the conflict further."

https://www.nation.com.pk/27-Oct-20...efend-itself-after-israel-hits-military-sites
 

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"TEHRAN/ISLAMABAD - Iran warned on Saturday it would defend itself after Israeli air strikes killed at least two soldiers and further stoked fears of a full-scale regional war in the Middle East.

Israel warned Iran would “pay a heavy price” if it responded to the strikes, and the United States, Germany and Britain demanded Tehran not escalate the conflict further."

https://www.nation.com.pk/27-Oct-20...efend-itself-after-israel-hits-military-sites
I think part of it is the creation of the russia/indian/china/iran currency. The backers of the usdollar dont like another currency for buying oil and stuff.
 

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I think part of it is the creation of the russia/indian/china/iran currency. The backers of the usdollar dont like another currency for buying oil and stuff.
If the wars and conflicts are happening right now, due to economic reasons, it wouldn't be the first time.

Supposedly, Albert Pike predicted WWIII. I don't know if it is true, but something I have been keeping an eye on.

The author of the letter seems to indicate, that Islamic countries will war with Israel, which will mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile other nations will be fighting Nihilists and atheists who become bloody savages, which will force Christians, and the others to take heavy losses, which will further erode religious strong-holds, leave the rest open to Luciferian doctrine, and finally establishing the goal of the New World Order (under the anti-christ I'm guessing).



"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the 'agentur' of the 'Illuminati' between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World.

The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion.

We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.4"
 

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If the wars and conflicts are happening right now, due to economic reasons, it wouldn't be the first time.

Supposedly, Albert Pike predicted WWIII. I don't know if it is true, but something I have been keeping an eye on.

The author of the letter seems to indicate, that Islamic countries will war with Israel, which will mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile other nations will be fighting Nihilists and atheists who become bloody savages, which will force Christians, and the others to take heavy losses, which will further erode religious strong-holds, leave the rest open to Luciferian doctrine, and finally establishing the goal of the New World Order (under the anti-christ I'm guessing).



"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the 'agentur' of the 'Illuminati' between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World.

The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion.

We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.4"
and pike would have made those predictions in the mid 1800's...
 

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You need to read on somewhat:

Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

The generation Jesus spoke about has come and gone.
Its pretty clear. And its not the only scriptural witness. There are historical accounts as well.
Once someone breaks out of the mind control, things start making a lot more sense, after multiple levels of personal sanity checks mind you. Breaking out of our delusions is hard, even if you're a born skeptic.

How do you convince someone that their entire paradigm is a fabrication created to control them? The answer is, you usually can't, it's matrix level stuff.
 

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oh my!

B-52 Stratofortress arrives in Middle East area from US amid Iranian threat

"The B-52 Stratofortress is a long-range heavy bomber that has the ability to perform various missions, according to the US Air Force."

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-827280
I remember in the 2000s the media talking about how we were going into iraq, iran and a many more countries. All in the name of anti terrorism. I assume this project is still being worked on.
 

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Not exactly.

Both of you are part-right and part-wrong.

In the Greek, the phrase "till all these things be fulfilled" is actually saying "till all these things begin to be fulfilled"...

The timing-sense that is present in the grammar is 'beginning-and-continuing' - not 'beginning-to-end completed'.

He said that - the generation at-the-time would not pass away before "all of these things would begin to be fulfilled"...

He did not say that "all these things" would all be fulfilled within a generation.

The same thing exists in some other verses, including some in Revelation.
I read your post before looking up to see it was you. Not at all surprised. Very balanced reading of the text.

Your scholarship exceeds mine. So please allow me to get my limited understanding out there, and I would sincerely like for you to clear up any of my misconceptions.
I think you know I'm not a big prophecy guy, but everyone has their opinion.

Your textual interpretation is correct. So what's been fulfilled and what's left to come? For me, its way later than anyone thinks.

I think Christ did just what He said He was gonna do, I think He came back, destroyed His enemies. And reigned. Whether from Jerusalem or the magnetic mountain that sits at the center of our flat realm. The Black Rock or some say Mt Zion. Or perhaps He simply reigned from His throne within the hearts of men.
Whatever the case I think most of what we call history is total garbage, and yeah. I think we are living in a scripted reality. The Darby delusion is just a part of it. Whoever's running the show down here, its pretty clear that they are working for Satan to deceive the nations one last time. Its the final sifting of Gods chosen holy remnant. Spiritual warfare is poppin right now, and its gonna get real real soon. But everybody's got their end times glasses on

and its all
just a Great Deception.

Christ is coming soon.
This is the actual end.

This topic, end times. Its so freaking important to people. And so easy to get caught up into, at the expense of much more needful things.
I think people confuse or equate the return of Christ with the Gospel of Christ.

Behold I come quickly. Be ready.

All things therefore whatsoever ye would that men should do unto you, even so do ye also unto them: for this is the law and...
the prophets.
Interesting passage when placed in the context of this conversation.

What's your take?
Where are we on the timeline? Satan is clearly running the show. He's waging war against the saints and has been for quite a while now.
 

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If the wars and conflicts are happening right now, due to economic reasons, it wouldn't be the first time.

Supposedly, Albert Pike predicted WWIII. I don't know if it is true, but something I have been keeping an eye on.

The author of the letter seems to indicate, that Islamic countries will war with Israel, which will mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile other nations will be fighting Nihilists and atheists who become bloody savages, which will force Christians, and the others to take heavy losses, which will further erode religious strong-holds, leave the rest open to Luciferian doctrine, and finally establishing the goal of the New World Order (under the anti-christ I'm guessing).



"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the 'agentur' of the 'Illuminati' between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World.

The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion.

We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.4"
The plan seems to be working quite well.
 

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I never heard of Jamie Walden before a few weeks ago. Posting this message is an endorsement of this particular message, not Brother Walden or his ministry.

I don't agree with 100% of his conclusions. But he's dropping major truth bombs that every believer needs to hear.

 

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I never heard of Jamie Walden before a few weeks ago. Posting this message is an endorsement of this particular message, not Brother Walden or his ministry.

I don't agree with 100% of his conclusions. But he's dropping major truth bombs that every believer needs to hear.

"Everybody trackin"