Was Mary Sinless?

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sawdust said:
As I said, it is in the singular so it's not speaking of multiple people and no-one else was going to crush Satan's head except the Christ.

imo I believe it is a prophecy declaring the outcome of the final battle between the Christ and the Antichrist ie Armageddon where Satan's rule and way of thinking is utterly eliminated from creation (crush his head) and those who willfully rejected Christ (spiritually dead, the bruised heel) are revealed for judgment.
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One could think that the way some here try to make you doubt your conclusion?
That what happened with the birth of Jesus?
According to what was stated in Genesis about the woman's seed?

That it was a lucky guess on God's part.
Not omniscience...
And, that it just turned out the way you are saying it did, by chance.

I would not argue with him.
I think he does not have the capacity to think in the direction you are pointing him.
For surely, others here see it plainly, and may wonder what his problem really is.

This we can know:

Jesus had no human father because the fallen nature is transferred by the male.
That is why it says that sin entered the world through ONE MAN. Adam!
Not through the woman.
The perfect solution?
The Holy Spirit provided what we needed to provide what was needed to fertilize the ovum of Mary.
 
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Genipher said:
Oh. Is Lovette a new believer?

Though hearing Jesus is God is generally, like, the first thing we learn.
I believed Jesus is God as a child. Didn't need to see the scriptures. Now that im older, yeah, I know the scriptures to back up that truth.
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Simply hearing that Jesus is God does not register with some simply on the basis of the claim.
It takes learning passages they did not know before they will relax with the idea.
 
Genez said:
Was Sampson a superman?
Was he only a man when filled with the Spirit?

The difference between Sampson and Jesus?

Jesus is always filled with the Spirit!
ALWAYS!
Fully filled.
Without any limit!
Always manifesting God in his body!

For in him, bodily, lives the fullness of all that God is.


Colossians 2:9
Complete Jewish Bible​



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So? I fully agree with all these, my only argument is that he didn't walk out of the tomb, because the angel declared it already empty, don't look for the living among the dead.
 
Lovette said:
I believe in God who came in the flesh, do you?
It's a yes or no question.
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Believing in Jesus (John 3:16, 6:29) means believing sinners are saved via believing the Gospel taught in such NT passages as
John 6:51, Rom. 3:21-5:1 and Heb. 7:11-10:1--NOT believing the Sabbath law (Exo. 20:8-10, 31:14, 35:2).

"See" in my previous post should be "Seed".
 
GWH said:
Believing in Jesus (John 3:16, 6:29) means believing sinners are saved via believing the Gospel taught in such NT passages as
John 6:51, Rom. 3:21-5:1 and Heb. 7:11-10:1--NOT believing the Sabbath law (Exo. 20:8-10, 31:14, 35:2).

"See" in my previous post should be "Seed".
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The only gospel message is 1 Cor. 15:3 - Christ died for our sins, according to the Scripture (OT).
 
Lovette said:
The only gospel message is 1 Cor. 15:3 - Christ died for our sins, according to the Scripture (OT).
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1Cor. 15:3 is one statement of the Gospel, and the rest of the NT is the full Gospel.
We may begin simply by citing one text or another, but God wants us to keep on learning His word and become mature (Eph. 4:11-15).
 
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Many was human and she was a sinner

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
 
GWH said:
1Cor. 15:3 is one statement of the Gospel, and the rest of the NT is the full Gospel.
We may begin simply by citing one text or another, but God wants us to keep on learning His word and become mature (Eph. 4:11-15).
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The rest of the NT is summarized in this one succinct verse.
 
Lovette said:
An angel of God, Ex. 3:2.
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Not "an" angel
Read it again?

"THE" angel of Jehovah.

The one and only Angel of Jehovah.


The angel of Adonai appeared to him in a fire blazing from the middle of a bush. ​
He looked and saw that although the bush was flaming with fire, yet the bush ​
was not being burned up. Complete Jewish Bible Exodus 3:2​

Two verses after?
It tells us who the Angel was in that bush.

When Adonai saw that he had gone over to see, God called to him from the middle ​
of the bush, “Moshe! Moshe!” He answered, “Here I am.” Complete Jewish Bible Exodus 3:4​

That is why Christian scholars argue over whom that angel really was.
Some like to tell us it was the pre-incarnate Christ.
For they know it was not just another angel.
For this angel is called 'God.'

Read those verses again, please.
 
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Lovette said:
So? I fully agree with all these, my only argument is that he didn't walk out of the tomb, because the angel declared it already empty, don't look for the living among the dead.
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Why are we arguing over this detail and wasting so much in doing so?
Does it matter? Will it change what we can know had happened?

I know of someone who would love for us to argue over such things as to keep us from what can be learned.
 
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Genez said:
Read those verses again, please.
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"Angel" means messenger, whose function is to pass down a message from God to man, period. That is one of the theophanies, where God the FATHER appeared to various forms, including angel, such as the one that visited Abraham or the one that wrestled with Jacob. This one is in the same category, what's special is the revelation of God's holy name - I AM.
 
Genez said:
Why are we arguing over this detail and wasting so much in doing so?
Does it matter? Will it change what we can know had happened?

I know of someone who would love for us to argue over such things as to keep us from what can be learned.
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IDK, how about we put an end to it. There's no point to argue anyway, if you and everybody else have the decency to admit that the Lord descended into Hades, where he preached to the imprisoned spirits (1 Peter 3:18-19). Hades is the realm of the dead where all deceased persons go, not the same as Joseph's tomb where only he was buried in.
 
sawdust said:
And which "single humanity" is that that will crush Satan's head?
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I think it'd be his own sword. What goes around comes around.

And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. (Rev. 13:3)

He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is thepatience and the faith of the saints. (Rev. 13:10)
 
Genez said:
Not "an" angel
Read it again?

"THE" angel of Jehovah.

The one and only Angel of Jehovah.


The angel of Adonai appeared to him in a fire blazing from the middle of a bush. ​
He looked and saw that although the bush was flaming with fire, yet the bush ​
was not being burned up. Complete Jewish Bible Exodus 3:2​

Two verses after?
It tells us who the Angel was in that bush.

When Adonai saw that he had gone over to see, God called to him from the middle ​
of the bush, “Moshe! Moshe!” He answered, “Here I am.” Complete Jewish Bible Exodus 3:4​

That is why Christian scholars argue over whom that angel really was.
Some like to tell us it was the pre-incarnate Christ.
For they know it was not just another angel.
For this angel is called 'God.'

Read those verses again, please.
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An angel made the fire in the bush, but God spoke, the I Am spoke. The angels are NOT God.
If you say anymore than what is said, you’re conjecturing and adding.

“And the Angel of the Lord appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush. So he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, but the bush was not consumed. So when the Lord saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush and said, “Moses, Moses!” And he said, “Here I am.” Moreover He said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭3‬:‭2‬, ‭4‬, ‭6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
 
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