Was Mary Sinless?

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"Angel" means messenger, whose function is to pass down a message from God to man, period. That is one of the theophanies, where God the FATHER appeared to various forms, including angel, such as the one that visited Abraham or the one that wrestled with Jacob. This one is in the same category, what's special is the revelation of God's holy name - I AM.


Does it have to be that way?

No one has ever seen God; God the only Son, who is at the Father's side,
he has made him known. John 1:18​

That is why Jesus told his disciples the following...


Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip?
Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 14:9​

In order for us to see God, God has determined Himself to be a Trinity.

If there were no created man, or angels?
God would not have to be a Trinity.

It is for our sakes, so we can know Him, that He is a Trinity.

grace and peace ........
 
An angel made the fire in the bush, but God spoke, the I Am spoke. The angels are NOT God.
If you say anymore than what is said, you’re conjecturing and adding.

“And the Angel of the Lord appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush. So he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, but the bush was not consumed. So when the Lord saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush and said, “Moses, Moses!” And he said, “Here I am.” Moreover He said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭3‬:‭2‬, ‭4‬, ‭6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

The angel of God was IN the Bush.
And, the voice came from within the bush.

You need to stay away from the catnip.
 
IDK, how about we put an end to it. There's no point to argue anyway, if you and everybody else have the decency to admit that the Lord descended into Hades, where he preached to the imprisoned spirits (1 Peter 3:18-19). Hades is the realm of the dead where all deceased persons go, not the same as Joseph's tomb where only he was buried in.
Hades was where all deceased souls went when until the Cross and the ascension of Christ took place.
Then it all changed.

But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift.
Therefore He says:
“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”
(Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth?
He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)


Before the Cross?
All believers that died went below the earth and had to remain until all sins were cleansed by the Blood of Christ.

Then... after the victory on the Cross?
All those who were being held captive below the earth?
Jesus lead up to heaven in a long train of souls up to be in Heaven.
 
Hades was where all deceased souls went when until the Cross and the ascension of Christ took place.
Then it all changed.

But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift.
Therefore He says:
“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”
(Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth?
He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)


Before the Cross?
All believers that died went below the earth and had to remain until all sins were cleansed by the Blood of Christ.

Then... after the victory on the Cross?
All those who were being held captive below the earth?
Jesus lead up to heaven in a long train of souls up to be in Heaven.
Scripture please, otherwise it’s just opinions/ conjecture?
 
"Angel" means messenger, whose function is to pass down a message from God to man, period.

Messengers. Messengers who almost always turned out to be angels.

Please...

Read Genesis 18, where "three men" appeared to Abraham before his tent.
Which we later learn, are the two angels who went to Sodom.
And, the third one who stayed behind before Abraham who is referred to as the Lord.

Shalom and grace.....
 
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"Angel" means messenger, whose function is to pass down a message from God to man, period. That is one of the theophanies, where God the FATHER appeared to various forms, including angel, such as the one that visited Abraham or the one that wrestled with Jacob. This one is in the same category, what's special is the revelation of God's holy name - I AM.
OK>>>>

SOOOOOO It was the "messenger" of God was standing in the midst of a burning bush?

And? (make sense of what you said now)
 
The one and only covenant is the one with Abraham in Gen. 12:1-3, all who are born of the holy spirit is adopted as children of Abraham - "if you are of Christ, you're Abraham's seed". That covenant lasts forever, the new covenant, in essence, is the restoration of the old covenant, which the Israelites had previously broken.

‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me, and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember; I will remember the land. (Lev. 26:40-42)
How can the new covenant be a " restoration of the old? Then it would not be new. We, who are born again, Jews and Gentiles, are partakers of a better covenant but not the covenant that contains everything in the old covenant, such as land ( not Gentiles anyway). " But now hath He (Jesus) obtained a more excellent ministry ( than Moses'), by how also He is the mediator OF A BETTER COVENANT, which was established upon BETTER PROMISES. For IF THE FIRST COVENANT HAD BEEN FAULTLESS, THEN SHOULD NO PLACE HAVE BEEN SOUGHT FOR A SECOND. For finding fault with them (Jewish people), He saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH: *** NOT ACCORDING TO TYHE COVENANT I MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS*** in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in My covenant, and I regarded them not." Hebrews 8:6-9. Why go back to a faulty covenant? If you've ever been on a job with a union you would know, if interested, that when the time came for a new memorandum of understanding (contract) you negotiated to keep the parts of the old contract that benefitted the workers most and added addendums of favor to the workers. Knowing that a contract and a covenant are different and that with a covenant with God there is no negotiation, the idea is about the same, agreements with responsibilities for both parties to uphold. " A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh." Ezekiel 36:26 God is speaking to Jewish people and, for the most part, this has not happened yet and will only happen when the Jewish people become Messianic, like yourself, receive Jesus Christ as their Lord, Master and Savior.
 
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No he didn't, he spake unto Moses through an angel.

Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian. And he led the flock to the back of the desert, and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. And the angel of the Lord appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush. (Ex. 3:1-2)
Again, " AND THE LORD SPAKE UNTO MOSES ***FACE TO FACE ***, as a man speaketh unto his friend..........." Exodus 33:11 You need to tell the writer of Exodus, I believe his name is Moses, and argue that with him. I believe what he wrote because it is inspired by the Holy Spirt. Do you speak to you friend through an angel, or face to face?
 
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I don't know what you're asking anymore. Is the question "how did Jesus come out of the tomb" or is it "how did He grow in wisdom and stature because I was answering the latter and there are no assumptions in my answer.
"On second thought' was an indication that I had answered my own question of how He grew in wisdom and stature. The other question was someone else's and is unanswerable naturally, there's not enough information given in scripture. The best I can answer I can give to that question is that it was supernatural.
 
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Yes, but God wants Christians to learn how to explain/teach what the Gospel means as we have the opportunity,
per the verses you apparently ignore.
I'd rather ignore than weaponize them to initiate and win a pointless fight.
 
Yes, I believe Jesus is God.
Said so in a previous comment.
You're being vague, though. Not sure why.
I'm being more clear than you are. I believe in Jesus as God who came in the flesh, you just believe in Jesus as God.
 
Hades was where all deceased souls went when until the Cross and the ascension of Christ took place.
Then it all changed.

But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift.
Therefore He says:
“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”
(Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth?
He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)


Before the Cross?
All believers that died went below the earth and had to remain until all sins were cleansed by the Blood of Christ.

Then... after the victory on the Cross?
All those who were being held captive below the earth?
Jesus lead up to heaven in a long train of souls up to be in Heaven.
No, nothing's changed, all deceased still go to Hades. If all go to heaven, how is anyone supposed to be resurrected from the grave? You've nullified the blessed hope of resurrection.
 
Messengers. Messengers who almost always turned out to be angels.

Please...

Read Genesis 18, where "three men" appeared to Abraham before his tent.
Which we later learn, are the two angels who went to Sodom.
And, the third one who stayed behind before Abraham who is referred to as the Lord.

Shalom and grace.....
Yes, God the Father met Abraham in person. So?
 
OK>>>>

SOOOOOO It was the "messenger" of God was standing in the midst of a burning bush?

And? (make sense of what you said now)
It was a theophany of God the Father. No man could see him directly and live, therefore He must communicate with his people through messengers or other mediums.