Remember your biology, women have two "X" chromosomes, men have one "X" and one "Y" (typically for both, there are unusual exceptions). Basically, that means that ALL "X" chromosomes come from women, even if they pass through a man enroute. Therefore, either the sin nature is passed by both genders or the sin nature is not based via genetics. Personally, I vote for the latter.
Was Mary Sinless?
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Is that amongst humans or are you talking in general biology? No good comparing apples with oranges.
I know of no human born without a father except Christ.
So what happens when a person inherits a defect from their father that the mother has no family history of?
Nice deflection, but this only tells me you don’t know.
Guessing again are we?
Telling people what they know or don't know?
Must be true what they say, teenagers and cats, they think they know everything!
If he would look up clones?
He would see it was only with certain animals.
Some people just love the challenge to come up with things to argue over.
For arguing is their hobby...
It is also worth considering, seeing as the base meaning of the word sin is "missing", that it may well be something that doesn't get passed down from the DNA of the Father that causes the corruption we know as the sin nature.
Just a thought.
Which of course is why you people claim we can walk in disobedience and still be saved.
God's Word teaches walking after the flesh is sinful behavior, but you people say it's all good which is not biblical.
Of course you don't want to talk to anybody that exposes your false doctrine that can prove it's not biblical demonstrating how you people ignore portions of scripture claiming some things the Lord says in His Word are lies which is what you religious people do.
The cherry pickers only believe a select few verse that they can use to claim their false doctrine is true.
They just like the JWs, the Mormans, and the Jehovah's Witnesses
You've already outed yourself as an advocate for the false doctrines of OSAS
So those that have not yet been born again are not yet humans?
Dude, this false doctrine stuff you follow is really clouding your understanding very badly now.
The deception is growing in you like a cancer
There are creatures who reproduce by themself. There are also creatures that don't die but the creation (apart from humans) don't have an innate sin nature in the flesh. The creation has been placed under the folly of sin Rom.8:20 and subjected to it's consequences.
Rom.8:20
20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope;
Comparing humans with the animal kingdom can only ever go so far.
No we don't say "it's all good" and I'm not going to bother telling you again.
Have a nice Day.
Goodbye.
So you're going to stop spreading the false doctrines of OSAS then?
You have yet to know and understand how you did get saved.....
For you have "legalist flesh."
We did not earn nor deserve our salvation.
Christ purchased it for us.
Your kind cheapens the Blood of Christ.
Well, if it ain't Mr. "Ghost Lighting Jay.!
You know who hates OSAS?
Satan!
For he can't win trophies with OSAS.
You two share the same frustration...
I do not know the rate of parthenogenesis among other species, but in humans it is potentially as high as 1 in 10,000. Check your biology. I would have to check the rates for a genetical female to have a penis, but that is also possible.
I might also ask if you ever heard of a man called Melchizedek, Abraham met him and he reportedly had no mother or father.
The same thing as when someone turns up with a genetic defect that the father's family has no history of. Apples and oranges to this discussion though. I thought you wanted to avoid such, not bring such things up.
The question is, what are we missing. Both quantum physics and psychiatry suggest that humans are missing at least one essential truth and psychiatry recognizes that what we are missing is behind a multitude of issues.It is also worth considering, seeing as the base meaning of the word sin is "missing", that it may well be something that doesn't get passed down from the DNA of the Father that causes the corruption we know as the sin nature.
Just a thought.
Jay Walker's version of salvation. 101
Jesus opens a door, and says... "Come on in boy!
Jay looks around.
He reads about all the wonderful things that salvation gives.
Then Jesus turns to Jay and tells him.
"See that? Now it is up to you to keep it!
My dying on the Cross was only to get you to see what it is that you
now must now earn to keep through good behavior!"
Stay tuned folks to the adventures of Jay Walker!!!
The sadistic boy scout.
I am not trying to avoid anything.
Faith does not require that we first must understand what is written.
Only that you believe it.
Abraham and Sarah laughed when they were told in old age that Sarah would conceive and bear Abraham a son.
They could not understand how it was possible.
Did that stop it from being true?
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned— Romans 5:12
What does that tell us?
Mary referred to God as her "Savior."
All of mankind became sinners in Adam, according to Paul.
Rom 5.12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
A number of saints had their defects covered up by God in the Scriptures. Daniel had little said about him in this respect. And Mary was one of them. On the other hand, Moses' sins were outlined clearly, and the flawed character of Jeremiah was plain for all to see. Jonah, as well.
However, you can see in the Gospels that Mary was irritated with Jesus when he stayed behind at the Temple as a young man/child. She presumed to have access to Jesus because she was his Mother, though Jesus said she must be doing the will of God to have access to him.
That Jesus was the exclusive atonement for our sins is all through Scriptures. I can be more detailed if you need that?
Yep, if she had been sinless she would have announced herself to be co- redeemer as the catholks claim she is meaning mary is equal with Jesus as they claim Jesus has to get permission from His momma before He does anything and that Jesus is a momma's boy