Chastisement was for those churches. Warnings (instruction) is for us
Was Mary Sinless?
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In the context of a prophecy book, I'd rather read those as objective prophecy. Not everything is about us and around us.
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness. -- 2 Tim 3:16 ESV
All Scripture is multi-layered and multi-faceted, never limited to one aspect.
And I'll read each portion of scripture in its context and narrative, not your own context and narrative.
There're certain scripture verses that seem to espouse genecide (wipe out the canaanites in Israel's conquest of Canaan), abortion (better for that man to never have been born!), socialism (...sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need.), racism (It is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the little dogs) and other evil deeds, I'm pretty sure those are not for instruction.
One problem with that notion, if the sin nature is somehow genetically passed, when someone dies and is freed from their physical body, and its genetic defects, does that make them sinless? Now if sin is an active choice by each person, uninfluenced by genetics, then there is no escape from one's choice of sin even after death, it merely implies that all humans duplicate the choice made by Adam and that sin is clearly an aspect of human nature.
Now to get from that to Jesus being sinless, one must study the 1st century concept of both sin and sinlessness.
The concept of sharing assets equally, while appearing socialist, actually fits extremely well with the commandment to love your neighbor as yourself. Why should one person have while another needs, so long as the commandment to work as you are able is also followed. God freely grants certain abilities to certain people, why should they benefit materially just because God freely granted them some special ability, even if they had to strive to fully actualize it.
We need the historical background as to why they needed to pool all their possessions to distribute amongst themselves.
It was not Socialism!
What was happening, was that the Jewish unbelievers were boycotting the businesses of the Jewish believers.
They needed to find a way to sustain members of the church. It was NOT Socialism!
I correctly answered the question you asked, did you check my answer? It's always a good one, thanks.Did you check the Greek? I showed you the Greek but I don't think you even looked, did you?
You don't strike me as someone serious when it comes to studying the word of God.
Have a good one.
Of course, you do understand that others have studied Greek and Hebrew for years also, and have not come to those same conclusions, don't you? The answers I received from my inputs I DID learn from and my reference to the foolish and weak scripture was in response to the smarmy, erudite like exchanges between you two about me. I never claimed to be foolish and weak, but inferred from those remarks that that was what was thought. A major sticking point in some of our exchanges is when does man receive a human spirit, you say at the born again experience, I, on the other hand, say at original birth. What do you say about Job 32:8 " But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding."? Job, under the INSPIRATION of the Holy Spirit, spoke these words, without being born again, that, there IS (not will be) a spirit in man. Can't wait for you to refute that. P.S. It seems to indicate that the human SPIRIT is inspired and thereby gets understanding, then the soul.
I believe they are waiting for Jesus to finally defeat His last enemies, establish His Kingdom on earth and be given their glorified bodies and assignments, as we all will be given. If they were expecting to be under the altar forever I don't believe they would ask the question, for they would be asking eternally.
These animals are dangerous, is an instruction enough for ME, it's implied, but instructive anyway, for me. I try to treat the Word of God the same way, a warning is also an instruction, I am instructed by the warning.
Come back in ten years, and you'll be still stuck where you are now...
It's a pity.
The first socialist was not Jesus, but Judas, who pretended to care for the poor while stole from the money bag, see Jn. 12:4-8.
Which is simply your perception and I imagine is why you continue to justify yourself.
You looked at two translations therefore you must be right? I continued to show you where it is used in other verses where it is clearly not something done again but something done new.
When you can show me the verse that says flesh gives birth to spirit or if you can show anyone other than God gave us our spirit, then you might have a correct answer otherwise I must assume you are working on supposition.
I agree, they are waiting to be clothed with their glorified, incorruptible, imperishable bodies. So then, by contrast, the unsaved dead are waiting for the resurrection to cast into the lake of fire, but they won't be clothed with the promised incorruptible, neither the imperishable. How can they then 'live forever' in torment?