Watching "Un-christian Porn" - protect your heart

[Depleted]

Please stop with the false witnessing, I am just addressing what you have said to me.........

How is that making the thread about me ???? You ask I answer that is all there is to this !!!

Have you ever noticed this?

Roughly half of your post are about how people are lying about YOU?

There are two other choices you never seem to consider:
A. You think everyone but you is a liar.
B. You don't have enough time to think about God, because you're too busy justifying yourself.

Something is seriously wrong if this can be picked up so easily, and yet you've been doing the same thing as long as I've known you.

 

[KennethC]

Maybe not but it was amusing.

Well I just had to mention that because it gets me how people constantly take and say things about others isn't right, but then turn right around and do the same exact things to others.

That is exactly what the definition of a hypocrite states !!!

 

[blue_ladybug]

Yo, this ain't Romper Room..

 

[KennethC]

Have you ever noticed this?

Roughly half of your post are about how people are lying about YOU?

There are two other choices you never seem to consider:
A. You think everyone but you is a liar.
B. You don't have enough time to think about God, because you're too busy justifying yourself.

Something is seriously wrong if this can be picked up so easily, and yet you've been doing the same thing as long as I've known you.

Well I will call lies out when I see them, and no I don't think everybody is a liar but me !!!

I am constantly thinking about God and defending His Word, so I don't know how #2 comes into play either.


When a person says and states something on me that I either:

1) Never said

2) Call me a woks to earn salvation person

3) Call me a legalist

4) Flat out tell me I don't believe in the Lord Jesus, God's grace, or His finished work


Then yes I will call those out for the lies that they are !!!

 

[KennethC]

Yo, this ain't Romper Room..

Sorry blue, but some of these people on here just get to me sometimes how they will refuse they are doing the exact thing they are accusing others of doing. Then when called out instead of admit it and say sorry, they continue in their denial and try to reverse it back on the other person who called them out !!!

We should all admit to our sins (acknowledge them) instead of sweeping them under the rug !!!

 

[blue_ladybug]

Sorry blue, but some of these people on here just get to me sometimes how they will refuse they are doing the exact thing they are accusing others of doing. Then when called out instead of admit it and say sorry, they continue in their denial and try to reverse it back on the other person who called them out !!!

We should all admit to our sins (acknowledge them) instead of sweeping them under the rug !!!

I agree, but they get to you because you're allowing them to get to you. The liars here know who they are, and one day they'll answer to God for their conduct here. God's word doesn't need defending, it needs to be spread to all those who will hear it. Instead of repeatedly harping on it, put your focus on spreading God's word to those of us here who are willing to hear it and learn from it.

 

[PeterJens]

Sorry blue, but some of these people on here just get to me sometimes how they will refuse they are doing the exact thing they are accusing others of doing. Then when called out instead of admit it and say sorry, they continue in their denial and try to reverse it back on the other person who called them out !!!

We should all admit to our sins (acknowledge them) instead of sweeping them under the rug !!!

Ken, there is only a one way street with certain people.
The tactic is to establish I am adult and it is just I have been picked on, and then slowly ridicule and patronize the person involved.

The problem is an us and them has been created, and their only tool is this needling and slander rather than theology.

I only share this as an observation after the event. I do not even have to say who.

Now I call that factual reporting. Know who your enemy is and their objective.
They will say it is an enemy outside there influence when it is the very ideas they are pushing.

But thankfully we are called to love our enemies, and though this is a great learning exercise I do not wish them harm, just to know it does not matter and we forgive them.

 

[popeye]

Ahhh...so he "un-borned" himself..that's quite a trick...can you with an act of your will un-born yourself as a human now that you have been born?...

..you know this will go no where..so we may as well stop it now....

I am not osas,so I can freely observe from an unbiased position.

That " unborn concept" doesn't work for either side.

If your going to get extreme,then we would have to say that the father went to the prodigal,winked at the pigs,and said" well done faithful SON enter in...."

Because the repentance and exit,was all a unnecessary filler to the story

 

[PeterJens]

No, Jesus was obedient to the Father. Its about relationship, not religion.

Religion. Sacrifices to God, a book we honour, a building we go to, ceremonies we have, births, marriages and deaths.

If anyone sold you the idea this is not a religion you have been sold a lie. But this religion is with the true God, the Lord Almighty. It is not evil to seek for God, it is only evil to do sin.

The reason why christianity has prospered for centuries because its two ethics are love above all else, and respect for others.

Somehow by pointing out others disrespect I am now a slanderer. Well if what I say is exactly what has happened that is not slander, that is reporting facts. But then people always want to win the slander argument if that is their objective.

I have made and one my point which is why certain people go on and on and on about it, really annoys them.

 

[coby]

Ken, there is only a one way street with certain people.
The tactic is to establish I am adult and it is just I have been picked on, and then slowly ridicule and patronize the person involved.

The problem is an us and them has been created, and their only tool is this needling and slander rather than theology.

I only share this as an observation after the event. I do not even have to say who.

Now I call that factual reporting. Know who your enemy is and their objective.
They will say it is an enemy outside there influence when it is the very ideas they are pushing.

But thankfully we are called to love our enemies, and though this is a great learning exercise I do not wish them harm, just to know it does not matter and we forgive them.

Forums are a great place to learn to forgive people. On a Dutch forum this one woman was a real legalist in my eyes. My goodness. If I made a normal joke she got angry at me. She's Dutch reformed and couldn't get along with born agains. No wonder, they all told her she wasn't even saved but she was. We became best friends. Two other women, my such venom they spouted about the most Godly teachers. I got so mad that I left. Lol then I came back. They're sweet. Don't wait for someone to admit their faults. Just start yourself and if you're lucky they'll do it too and if not, who cares?

 

[PeterJens]

Do carry on...I cant help you

God actually loves you. We are not your enemies you have to put in order, or tell off, or order about like little children.

You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven.
Matt 5:43

I do wonder why love has not captured your heart, because you claim to follow Jesus, mind, spirit and soul, or maybe not.
Is that all old covenant?

 

[Depleted]

Well I will call lies out when I see them, and no I don't think everybody is a liar but me !!!

I am constantly thinking about God and defending His Word, so I don't know how #2 comes into play either.


When a person says and states something on me that I either:

1) Never said

2) Call me a woks to earn salvation person

3) Call me a legalist

4) Flat out tell me I don't believe in the Lord Jesus, God's grace, or His finished work


Then yes I will call those out for the lies that they are !!!

And B? Because you just proved what I was saying in B by taking this long to justify your A.

 

[popeye]

I am not osas,so I can freely observe from an unbiased position.

That " unborn concept" doesn't work for either side.

If your going to get extreme,then we would have to say that the father went to the prodigal,winked at the pigs,and said" well done faithful SON enter in...."

The "son" dynamic destroys osas,because it strikes down both ends of that doctrine.

You would need a pass on the departure,squandering,pigs,and sin.

And since he wad a son,saved,you would need him,as a beiever,to not partake of such a massive shipwreck.

Osas says atrue beliver could not possibly grieve the father,does it not?

An then,when one defects osas says "well they never were saved"

 

[PeterJens]

Forums are a great place to learn to forgive people. On a Dutch forum this one woman was a real legalist in my eyes. My goodness. If I made a normal joke she got angry at me. She's Dutch reformed and couldn't get along with born agains. No wonder, they all told her she wasn't even saved but she was. We became best friends. Two other women, my such venom they spouted about the most Godly teachers. I got so mad that I left. Lol then I came back. They're sweet. Don't wait for someone to admit their faults. Just start yourself and if you're lucky they'll do it too and if not, who cares?

I agree. The problem is the subjects are very heart felt. I only started defending people because I know how upset some become. But now I am used to being demon possessed and working for the enemy, or so I am told, it does not bother me.

Once you light the fuzz some blow up, which we will continue to see over the next few weeks, but they so fervently believe its not religious or theology, and they do really know things except these terribly evil people are saying sensible things that mean maybe they don't and that really is evil...

 

[popeye]

question to op

Say a beliver is addicted to porn.

They die watching it,saturated in demons.

Is it winked at,by God?

 

[PeterJens]

Remember that if you attack someone personally instead of discussing civilly...you are slandering...Jesus said the devil is the slanderer

If you see a personal attack REPORT the post...eventually the person will be dealt with by the mods

Thankyou for your unclear definition of slander.

Slander is the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

If it is a true statement about someone, then that is a fair response.
A more religious view on slander is any statement someone gets upset about.

Bad - "you attack someone personally" Good - "civilly"

Looks like you prefer the religious censorship approach, but unfortunately it is not going to work.
And I thought you wanted to get away from religion, obviously not.

 

[Grace777x70]

What about someone filled with malice towards a brother..they die saturated in these so-called demons

Is that winked at by God?

As I said..this thread is not for this purpose....you are free to go start one if you have undying answers to the different kinds of sins and how they relate to God's winking prowess...

question to op

Say a beliver is addicted to porn.

They die watching it,saturated in demons.

Is it winked at,by God?

 

[KennethC]

And B? Because you just proved what I was saying in B by taking this long to justify your A.

I am not justifying myself as the justification comes from the Lord !!!

I will however defend myself when others try to spread false accusations about me and thus try and slander me and my belief in the Lord Jesus Christ !!!

Instead of going after the one being slandered maybe you should spend your time addressing those doing the slandering, because the ones doing the slandering are the one's in the wrong !!!

 

[royalscot]

It is strange to see a posting like this from you because you have done exactly the same to others that you are speaking here.

You have slandered and passed false witness on me a number of times on here, while I have done nothing but keep civil with you.

The problem is that I have seen is you have the same mindset as the Catholic's, you act as though just because others have exposed the bad teachings in the doctrine you have been taught. Then the people exposing it are just being slanderous and bitter toward you.

The Catholic's do the same exact thing think everybody who ever exposes their doctrine is doing it out of a malice mindset, but can not understand the truth is we are doing it out of love to draw one out of false teachings !!!

Following a false doctrine is very dangerous.................

the point that you miss, is how can you take belief, out of religions. you can disagree , with somethings, denomination do differently.(all) yet if the core belief, is the same as yours. (grace a gift, believing in a god through jesus christ)

for example, judge not or be judge. would be to easy to quote. for you to understand

but since no bible quote has been given, then i will make it easy for you to understand.
42 And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.Acts 10

when you work out, that god is saving believers, and not religions.

to keep it short, your own post,(the one i am commenting on) once again, expose, your bigotry

very dangerous to listen to some , that has the same core belief system to call others false.(that would be your core belief ) etc

 

[Utah]

question to op

Say a beliver is addicted to porn.

They die watching it,saturated in demons.

Is it winked at,by God?

Are the forces of porn more powerful than Jesus?