and he and the dcp corrupted dems are working to destroy the U.S.
The Lord can turn this in a heartbeat, keep praying!
The Lord can turn this in a heartbeat, keep praying!
Weaponized FBI and DOJ searching Mar-L -lago
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We have been given a banner to display
Romans 9:17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”
This word "display" means to carry a message through, announce everywhere. To publish abroad, to declare.
Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
The same word here that is translated to preach
Psalm 60:4 Thou hast given a banner to them that fear thee, that it may be displayed because of the truth. Selah.
Romans 9:17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”
This word "display" means to carry a message through, announce everywhere. To publish abroad, to declare.
Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
The same word here that is translated to preach
Psalm 60:4 Thou hast given a banner to them that fear thee, that it may be displayed because of the truth. Selah.
OK, these 11 things are not true.
And of course Trump didn't have nuclear codes, that also is not true.
But we can trust that the 87,000 armed IRS agents training on breaking down doors of middle class homes are going to be used to make sure no one in this country makes more than$400,000 a year, I'm sorry I mean no family in this country makes more than $400,000 a year, Oops, sorry, that was recently changed to $60,000 a year.
Well this goes along with their slogan "you will own nothing and be happy". Fortunately for us we have 0% inflation, otherwise this could be very hard for a family to live on that.
And of course Trump didn't have nuclear codes, that also is not true.
But we can trust that the 87,000 armed IRS agents training on breaking down doors of middle class homes are going to be used to make sure no one in this country makes more than
Well this goes along with their slogan "you will own nothing and be happy". Fortunately for us we have 0% inflation, otherwise this could be very hard for a family to live on that.
This amazes me
We had a 3 year Mueller investigation, two Impeachments, and the NY AG investigation and with all that they never figured out that Trump was a bond villain looking to steal our nuclear secrets and hold the world for ransom, $1 million dollars or else he blows up the world!
I can understand why Hollywood or even the Simpsons wouldn't touch this idiotic plot, but what about South Park? Couldn't the MSM at least have tested this out on a South Park episode first?
We had a 3 year Mueller investigation, two Impeachments, and the NY AG investigation and with all that they never figured out that Trump was a bond villain looking to steal our nuclear secrets and hold the world for ransom, $1 million dollars or else he blows up the world!
I can understand why Hollywood or even the Simpsons wouldn't touch this idiotic plot, but what about South Park? Couldn't the MSM at least have tested this out on a South Park episode first?
Wow I missed that, when did Trump say that the FBI investigating Hillary was proof she was corrupt? I see that in quotes so can you give me a reference or better yet do you have that on a Youtube video clip.
BTW I asked for references to your other assertions and you still haven't provided them.
I hope you can respond immediately to these requests otherwise everyone will think you just make this stuff up.
What has that got to do with Trump?
I have 0 interest in the Proud boys, you said that Trump was being charged with sedition and you said that Trump said that the FBI investigating Hillary was proof that she was corrupt. Those are the things I want citations for.
Trumps story is ever changing.
First it was that the FBI plainted evidence.
Then when the warrant was released, he claimed he Declassified the documents however the statutes they're going after him for violating do not require the documents to be classified
Now he says the documents were covered by the attorney client privilege yet Trump's attorney signed a statement saying they handed everything over to the FBI.
Not to mention his attorney went on Fox News and said that she advised Trump to announce that he wouldn't run and this would all go away. According to the law she waved attorney client privileged by revealing her advice.
I have no idea why him and his attorneys are talking so much, making it so much worse for him.
First it was that the FBI plainted evidence.
Then when the warrant was released, he claimed he Declassified the documents however the statutes they're going after him for violating do not require the documents to be classified
Now he says the documents were covered by the attorney client privilege yet Trump's attorney signed a statement saying they handed everything over to the FBI.
Not to mention his attorney went on Fox News and said that she advised Trump to announce that he wouldn't run and this would all go away. According to the law she waved attorney client privileged by revealing her advice.
I have no idea why him and his attorneys are talking so much, making it so much worse for him.
I missed that, I did hear from eyewitnesses that the FBI entered with backpacks, so they brought stuff into the house, and I also heard that they wanted the cameras turned off (a request that was rejected) and I heard that if they did plant evidence they would have video evidence, but I haven't heard that Trump said they did plant evidence. Can you provide a citation for that claim?
Can you tell us what statutes they are going after him for? I heard that it was for stealing nuclear secrets but the warrant didn't say that, I also heard that it was for documents that were packed up by the GSA and if the documents were packed up by someone other than Trump then there would be no violation by Trump, so obviously that couldn't be the statute you are talking about. So please, educate us, what is the statute they are going for?
How is this making it worse for him? What exactly is the statute that they are going after?
Here is what I did hear that they are claiming
They are claiming, on Maria Bartiromos show this morning, that the FBI agents involved in the raid were involved in Russiagate. That makes anything taken in this raid poisoned, the rule of law states that you cannot enter any evidence that is from the poisoned tree. Nothing from this raid can result in a criminal conviction, at least not in a real court
Fruit of the Poisoned Tree doctrine
A doctrine that extends the exclusionary rule to make evidence inadmissible in court if it was derived from evidence that was illegally obtained. As the metaphor suggests, if the evidential "tree" is tainted, so is its "fruit." The doctrine was established in 1920 by the decision in Silverthorne Lumber Co. v.
If FBI agents involved in this raid have a personal stake in finding Trump guilty of a crime then the evidence obtained is fruit of the poisoned tree.
A doctrine that extends the exclusionary rule to make evidence inadmissible in court if it was derived from evidence that was illegally obtained. As the metaphor suggests, if the evidential "tree" is tainted, so is its "fruit." The doctrine was established in 1920 by the decision in Silverthorne Lumber Co. v.
If FBI agents involved in this raid have a personal stake in finding Trump guilty of a crime then the evidence obtained is fruit of the poisoned tree.
You said Trump was being charged with sedition, and now you are saying that "there is a correlation" between Trump and some group called "proud boys"? Was Trump a member of the Proud boys?
By this same reasoning there is a correlation between Biden and the man who wanted to assassinate Kavanaugh or the man who killed 19 kids in Texas. This is slander.
Satan is a slanderer. This is not appropriate for believers to be slandering people and spreading evil rumors and inuendo.
Here's a story on Fox. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...out-mar-a-lago-raid-see-what-they-willing.amp
"there was no way of knowing if what they took was legitimate, or was there a ‘plant?"
OK I see what your saying it was more of a suggestion. However we do now know his attorney was present.
Here are the codes they are investigating him for violating.
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
18 U.S. Code § 1519 - Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1519
18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071
As far as your other questions about packing the documents up I guess will have to wait to see how this all plays out.
This is why it's dangerous for an attorney to talk to much. She went on FOX News and made a announcement effectively waving attorney client confidentiality. This is what I mean by talking too much. I am completely amazed and astounded that a attorney would make such a blunder on National Television.
Attorney-client privilege is waived by disclosing the substance of the communication to a third party. Waiver can be voluntary or involuntary (accidental).
https://www.velaw.com/insights/the-attorney-client-privilegea-practical-guide-for-in-house-counsel/
Trump lawyer says she's told him all litigation involving the former president 'will stop' if he announces he's not running for office in 2024
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/trump-lawyer-says-shes-told-192804167.html
Thank you, this supports the interview on Maria Bartiromo that said he thinks this was part of the January 6th investigation.
Which makes you wonder why they claimed it was nuclear secrets and then when that fell through that he had taken top secret documents in violation of various codes and then when that fell through we learn it is this?
If it turns out that the FBI agents were involved in Russiagate and it they never charge Trump with a crime from this seizure I will feel that trying to bury documents related to Russiagate will be the real explanation. Ironically that would mean that they are guilty of the crime they claim they are investigating Trump for.
What they say and what they mean.
1. Trump incited violence on January 6th. (What this means is that the Democrat leaders incited violence multiple times).
2. We are looking for nuclear secrets (what this means is that there are documents that could blow the entire Deep State to smithereens)
3. We are looking for classified documents (what this means is that they know that Hillary broke the law, but they don't care, they will ignore that, and this is the deep state giving the American people the finger).
4. When they say they are looking for documents that Trump is altering, falsifying, or trying to lose. (What they mean is that is what they are doing)
One of the best ways to lie is to tell the truth and just switch one little point. So tell the truth and instead of FBI say Trump.
1. Trump incited violence on January 6th. (What this means is that the Democrat leaders incited violence multiple times).
2. We are looking for nuclear secrets (what this means is that there are documents that could blow the entire Deep State to smithereens)
3. We are looking for classified documents (what this means is that they know that Hillary broke the law, but they don't care, they will ignore that, and this is the deep state giving the American people the finger).
4. When they say they are looking for documents that Trump is altering, falsifying, or trying to lose. (What they mean is that is what they are doing)
One of the best ways to lie is to tell the truth and just switch one little point. So tell the truth and instead of FBI say Trump.
There is (was) a video of them casually going into the capital and then being given gear to use by officials. This was a false flag operation. Things like that have a way of getting disappeared from the Internet quickly. This situation isn’t organic at all. Very few things are in politics or the media. My opinion is stop giving them with the benefit of the doubt.
Correlation is not Causation
More ice cream is sold in the summer than in the winter. This does not mean that the sale of ice cream causes it to get hot.
There is a very high degree of correlation between Ice cream sales and shark attacks. This does not mean that fear of sharks is causing people to buy ice cream or that sharks attack because the people ate ice cream.
There is a very high degree of correlation between people drowning in pools and the amount of energy produced in nuclear power plants. Again, this does not mean that Nuclear power generation is causing people to drown in swimming pools.
There is a very high correlation between the drop in the rate of people getting measles since 1965 and the drop in the rate of people getting married.
Imagine you measure the rate of 100 things, you will find some have dropped 5% and others have risen 5%. That doesn't mean there is an inverse relation between these two. In fact you can write an algorithm that will correlate just about any two events. For example the per capita consumption of margarine in the US is very closely correlated with the divorce rate in Maine. Another example is the spending on the US space program very closely correlates with suicides in the US.
When Dude653 says there "is some correlation" between those who are being charged (not convicted) of treason with Trump it is the flimsiest and most absurd argument. Remember the six degrees of separation from any person in the world and Kevin Bacon. That is like saying there is "some correlation" between any person in the world and Kevin Bacon.
Initially he said that Trump was charged with treason. I had to ask him three times to get a "citation" before he admitted he wasn't talking about Trump he was talking about the Proud boys and then threw out the lame excuse that "there is some correlation" between the two. This is deceitful.
More ice cream is sold in the summer than in the winter. This does not mean that the sale of ice cream causes it to get hot.
There is a very high degree of correlation between Ice cream sales and shark attacks. This does not mean that fear of sharks is causing people to buy ice cream or that sharks attack because the people ate ice cream.
There is a very high degree of correlation between people drowning in pools and the amount of energy produced in nuclear power plants. Again, this does not mean that Nuclear power generation is causing people to drown in swimming pools.
There is a very high correlation between the drop in the rate of people getting measles since 1965 and the drop in the rate of people getting married.
Imagine you measure the rate of 100 things, you will find some have dropped 5% and others have risen 5%. That doesn't mean there is an inverse relation between these two. In fact you can write an algorithm that will correlate just about any two events. For example the per capita consumption of margarine in the US is very closely correlated with the divorce rate in Maine. Another example is the spending on the US space program very closely correlates with suicides in the US.
When Dude653 says there "is some correlation" between those who are being charged (not convicted) of treason with Trump it is the flimsiest and most absurd argument. Remember the six degrees of separation from any person in the world and Kevin Bacon. That is like saying there is "some correlation" between any person in the world and Kevin Bacon.
Initially he said that Trump was charged with treason. I had to ask him three times to get a "citation" before he admitted he wasn't talking about Trump he was talking about the Proud boys and then threw out the lame excuse that "there is some correlation" between the two. This is deceitful.