went to church with seriousness today

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and idk... had a talk with the pastor for an hour...
he told me basically the same thing alot of people here are telling me...
and idk im kinda getting convinced...
im going back tomorrow...
its so weird like all of the sudden after YEARS of not believing i just... idk
things starting to change my mind....
ya... weird...
 
once you believe you have received the Spirit, for even the gentiles back then were filled before the baptism. I tell you the truth everything that we Christian do that praise God or glorifies God truthfully and not playing games is not us but the Spirit. We really cannot give God true praise without the Spirit inside us. if you choose God with a non stop attitude then you will find true life and filled with joy.
 
Crazy4GODword said:
once you believe you have received the Spirit, for even the gentiles back then were filled before the baptism. I tell you the truth everything that we Christian do that praise God or glorifies God truthfully and not playing games is not us but the Spirit. We really cannot give God true praise without the Spirit inside us. if you choose God with a non stop attitude then you will find true life and filled with joy.
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Amen. :) Well Said.
 
thatonegermex said:
and idk... had a talk with the pastor for an hour...
he told me basically the same thing alot of people here are telling me...
and idk im kinda getting convinced...
im going back tomorrow...
its so weird like all of the sudden after YEARS of not believing i just... idk
things starting to change my mind....
ya... weird...
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I had my wake up call when I was in my senior year. My bible actually started it to happen.
i encourage you to read more. the more we give God the more he gives us.
 
ya thats what kenny said (the pastor)
he is even buying me this bible with like little notes and stuff... ya...
 
Germex have you read the bible before or studied it? just asking.....
 
That is the BEST NEWS I have heard all day! I hope all goes well, and keep us posted!
 
why did you have to have a talk with the pastor? do you live in a household that is trying to control your beliefs or does the community think you're not committed enough? whatever the situation is, don't change yourself for anyone. be strong aout wh oyou are.
 
VegHead said:
why did you have to have a talk with the pastor? do you live in a household that is trying to control your beliefs or does the community think you're not committed enough? whatever the situation is, don't change yourself for anyone. be strong aout wh oyou are.
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there's truth to that statement but people should only change for God.
I would not suggest being self supportive, that's how a lot of people fail. Be supportive for God.
 
why did you have to have a talk with the pastor? do you live in a household that is trying to control your beliefs or does the community think you're not committed enough? whatever the situation is, don't change yourself for anyone. be strong aout wh oyou are.
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I saw you promoting similar ideas in another thread. I think it's worth pointing out that this is just feel good psycho-babble, and I don't say that to be harsh, but because I can't think of a better word than psycho-babble. For instance, no one in their right mind would tell someone with Hitler's ideology that he should "Be strong about who he is" and "Don't change yourself for anyone!"

I'm sure if Hitler were to post a message on this forum that said "Guys, I went to counseling today about my racism" you wouldn't respond to him with the same feel good psycho-babble: "Why did you have to talk with a counselor? Is the counselor trying to control your beliefs? Whatever your situation is, don't change yourself for anyone!"

What my illustration exposes are your presuppositions. You are coming here with a set of assumptions (and from what I saw on the other thread, a set of assumptions that are not in line with Christianity) and then you are dishing out advice while masking those assumptions.

I'm pointing this out, because it's the politicians tactic stir up mob of people with these sort of feel good speeches. For instance, when the politician gives an impassioned speech about how he is for "justice." Who isn't for justice? Has any politician ever run his campaign on impassioned speeches about being for "injustice"? "Justice" becomes an empty placeholder into which the politician can sneak any content he wants, after he has won the election. Likewise with your feel good advice about "being strong about who you are". In the end, it will turn out that what you really mean is "keep being the type of person I think you should be." Which of course simply begs the question: should the person be the type of person you want them to be?
 
BeauBLESSED said:
He was just trying to give her some encouragement...
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That's utterly irrelevant if the person is trying to encourage someone to continue down a wrong path or if their encouragement leads a person away from the truth. That's what my Hitler analogy was demonstrating.

Let's not be naive. You don't have to swallow poison just because someone sugar-coated it for you. Try looking beneath rhetorical style and see the substance underneath it. ;)
 
To change beliefs for somebody else is an emotive argument, there maybe good reason behind doing it, but ultimately the reason is to be based on truth and not the person.

I see Credo's point though, the context within the paragraph subliminally reinforces to be resistant regardless :)

...being strong about who you are doesn't mean you have to know all the answers, but at least be sure of what you don't know and what it would take convince you in a direction.
 
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