So, you are fine with our children being taught Darwin's Theory of Evolution? Telling our children that their ancestors are some mythical ape-like creature?
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So, you are fine with our children being taught Darwin's Theory of Evolution? Telling our children that their ancestors are some mythical ape-like creature?
I have no problem with that because human beings are apes. Right now. We're one of four great apes, in fact, along with our cousins the chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans. Apes rock the planet. We just don't live in trees like our cousins. We're marathon runners, rigged to stay cool, but there's still a mat of fur on our head like a hat, against sunstroke. We ran down antelopes and stuff until they fell to heat exhaustion, then dragged them back to camp for dinner.
Well...........ignorance is bliss they say...........I suspect you are a blissful person
To be honest they do have a "big red pin" on my house lol. One time my dad invited them in the house "so they could tell him more". When they were done he said "ok i have listened to you. Now i would like you to listen to me". Two hours later they left. My dad is a pastor. Lol
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Ariel82
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The last one is funny, but I really dislike that many Christians have such a false understanding of evolution.
Most of evolutionary theory doesn't go against the Bible.
The only part that really deviates is when you mix in genesis of life theories, Big Bang, etc.
If you trace things back to God making a couple of each KIND of animal and use evolutionary theory to explain why we have so many different birds for example. Then there is no problem.
The problem comes when people try and draw trees that show "common ancestors". However I take all those with a grain of salt since they have changed with DNA analysis and proof that dinosaurs had feathers and might be more related to birds than reptiles.
What I find ironic is people who object to Noah's ark but have no problem with the idea that life could have evolved from one cell organisms.
Why do Christian object to evolution so much?
God made Adam and Eve.
Yet look at the human population..we have pygmies and we have giants.
Each "kind" of animal from the Bible would line up more to the "order" classification system and not "species"
Species>>>>genus>>>>family>>>>order>>>phylum>>>kingdom
What is wonderful about God is he built into our DNA the ability to adapt to changing conditions...ice ages, droughts, diseases, eating meat or plants, etc...and still grow and survive.
(ps talishi isn't Christian, so that might help understand her comments.)
They have correctly surmised that the theory of evolution requires death to clear the niche for the following generations, and they have a theology that says death is a curse that is remedied by a savior. So if evolution is true, there was no "Fall" and Jesus has nothing to do.
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Ariel82
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That has nothing to do with evolution or Christian belief
Darwin's finches evolved From one type of finch to many different to fill different niches, yet the original remained on the island and mainland. Their beaks and claws changed to be better suited for their food source.
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pottersclay
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Not so not even close. Man was created by God from the dust of the earth. The lie of evolution itself was tested when mt. Saint. Helen's erupted. A team of Christian scientist placed several different findings in the aftermath. Secular scientist went for the bait and produced there findings and were laughed at .
One of the findings were foot prints made in the lava. Secular scientist carbon dated them to be a few million yrs old.
They were made a few months earlier.
Secular science has proven more towards the bible than against it. Apes have very different anatomy, and brain function. Also there social structure.
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RobbyEarl
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RobbyEarl
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A single cell amoeba decided to change, didn't have enough food, so started eating something else and it's off spring developed the tools needed to eat the new stuff. So they became a fish ( what evolved their food). then one of these fish found out that they could eat land creatures. so it's children launched themselves onto land to eat the land creatures (where did the land creatures come from ). So they developed legs to eat the land creatures (were there no creatures in the sea to eat?). Then they became Dinosaurs eating what, other dinosaurs but where did they come from? Then they became birds and developed feathers, why? Was there nothing to eat. Then others developed and went back into the sea as mammals and some where along the line the learned to eat Bananas, but where did the bananas come from? Why would a plant evolve to produce fruit? that other animals would eat. Not a very sound strategy for survival. Then become a man and kill what you came from for food. Makes know since. Talking about the dumbing down of education.
The reason why no one has been able to simulate evolution into any kind of organism today is probably because God had finished his work(Genesis 2:2).
Although I believe that some form of evolution may have been used when it was in the creation days described in the Bible. The definition of "evolution" to me itself is too vague for it to hold any credit.
It's just funny how some folks believe more in evolution than in the creation day of the bible because not all theories that claim to be logical are really that logical. Just like most scientist today, they'd go crazy in joy if they find even the tiniest spec of possibility that there are aliens or some other reason for the origin of life on earth and research it with all sorts of possibilities. But when it comes to a single creator or God, it's not even worth discussing.
Why bother with science when people are being told what is logical and what is not? Science should be the pursuit of knowledge through all possible ways.
Ironically most scientific discoveries points more and more towards the God of the bible.
-big bang
-cambrian explosion
-ever expansion of the universe
-dark matter, dark energy
-DNA
-fractals
Peace
Although I believe that some form of evolution may have been used when it was in the creation days described in the Bible. The definition of "evolution" to me itself is too vague for it to hold any credit.
It's just funny how some folks believe more in evolution than in the creation day of the bible because not all theories that claim to be logical are really that logical. Just like most scientist today, they'd go crazy in joy if they find even the tiniest spec of possibility that there are aliens or some other reason for the origin of life on earth and research it with all sorts of possibilities. But when it comes to a single creator or God, it's not even worth discussing.
Why bother with science when people are being told what is logical and what is not? Science should be the pursuit of knowledge through all possible ways.
Ironically most scientific discoveries points more and more towards the God of the bible.
-big bang
-cambrian explosion
-ever expansion of the universe
-dark matter, dark energy
-DNA
-fractals
Peace
Karl Popper revolutionized the scientific method, and now what we do is try to falsify claims. For example, Newton's law of gravitation [F(r)=GMm/r^2] could not account for the precession of the perihelion of the orbit of Mercury. It was falsified by observation. Einstein then supplied a replacement theory (General Relativity) that could fully account for all observations.
But when questioned about creation by a God, folks fall back on their book. "God said it, I believe it, end of subject." That means creationism is unfalsifiable. And that means its unscientific.
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pottersclay
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To tell you the truth I don't know how God did it but I'm glad he did.
Man is restricted to the laws that pertain to science, God is not. If he were then he would not be God.
He created all things that were created even the laws that border science. The laws of thermodynamics, physics, all are subject to him not the other way around. We have a God of the impossible, and that means just what it says "impossible". Scripture tells us our minds could not even comprehend. To think that man could be as God knowing good and evil is the lie man has been perusing sense Adam. Science has proved one thing...there is a missing link that ties it all together..and with further study they will find that link but it won't be found in the subject of interest it will be found in genesis 1:1 In the beginning God made the heavens and the earth.
A lie? Scripture lies?
[I]Genesis 3:
[4] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
[5] For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
[6] And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
[7] And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.[/I]
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pottersclay
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Where does the scripture lie tallshi where do you see the lie. Did God lie...no he said in the day you eat of that fruit you will die. The serpent said your eyes will be opened and it was but not to the knowledge they were seeking but to the knowledge of there nakedness.
Paramount...Man trying again from the beginning to be a equal with God.
Does a ape try to be human...only when he's treated and taught as such....but so does a dog .
In fact you can treat a human to be a animal in time guess what ...you got your animal.
I thought you were smarter than this....to say scripture is a lie means God's a liar....is that what you mean?
Paramount...Man trying again from the beginning to be a equal with God.
Does a ape try to be human...only when he's treated and taught as such....but so does a dog .
In fact you can treat a human to be a animal in time guess what ...you got your animal.
I thought you were smarter than this....to say scripture is a lie means God's a liar....is that what you mean?
You misconstrue what I said. The use of a question mark means I'm asking YOU if YOU think the scripture lies. I don't ever want to see another post like this from you again, and fortunately the Forum allows me to make sure that is the case going forward.
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pottersclay
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Genesis 1:26-27
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” [SUP]27 [/SUP]God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
We did not evolve from apes, we were created by God to be just like God in His image. All those who reject that we were created by God are nothing more then fools.
Creation is not unscientific its unSatanic. Its Satan who says we evolved, its Satan who says man came from the apes.
True science is the study of what God has created. Therefore true science supports us being created.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” [SUP]27 [/SUP]God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
We did not evolve from apes, we were created by God to be just like God in His image. All those who reject that we were created by God are nothing more then fools.
Creation is not unscientific its unSatanic. Its Satan who says we evolved, its Satan who says man came from the apes.
True science is the study of what God has created. Therefore true science supports us being created.