What are UFOs to you?

[Cameron143]

Of neat! It's not just mean thinking that is a possibility. There was a book at my local bookstore that had on cover "Sharing The Gospel with Extraterrestrials," and had Jesus' hand shaking a green martian hand. I wish I had picked it up.

Jesus is an alien. He's not of this world.

 

[SirSolaScriptura]

1 John 2:18

King James Version

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

I always thought that this would be many people that were antichrist but there will also be a man of sin. There is one man of sin but many antichrist.

He has many names, Man of Sin, Man of Lawlessness (2 Thessalonians 2:1-11), Antichrist, and Beast of the Sea (Revelation Chapter 13).

 

[Magenta]

1 John 2:18 King James Version

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come,
even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

I always thought that this would be many people that were antichrist but
there will also be a man of sin. There is one man of sin but many antichrist.

1 John 2 verses 17-18, 1 John 3 verse 23a, and Jesus' words in/from John 6 verse 29 ~ The world is passing away, along with its desires; but whoever does the will of God remains forever. Children, it is the last hour; and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour. And this is His commandment: that we should believe in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ. The work of God is to believe in the one he has sent.

 

[Genipher]

Jesus is an alien. He's not of this world.

This isn't our home, either.
We, too, are aliens.

 

[Cameron143]

This isn't our home, either.
We, too, are aliens.

I have suspected this to be true of you for some time.

 

[Eli1]

How to tell when someone is lying to you when you have completed some school and understand physics.
The article says: Project Sigma, started in 1954, used a binary computer language sent along radio signals into space to make contact with alien life.
Just five years after the interstellar connection, an official from the US Air Force met the extraterrestrials who received these messages.

Answer: The speed of light is the fastest speed known in the universe.
It takes light about 5 years to come from our nearest star which is Alpha Centauri.
How can the speed of sound travel faster than light (assuming it was pointed at Alpha Centauri, which it wasn't), for these "beings" to come here and have a regular office meeting to do a Power Point presentation?
NEXT!



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...y-claim-US-successful-contact-alien-race.html

 

[DeanM]

Some say UFO's are of the evil one. When the rapture happens the man of sin will say that aliens took them to a better place. I tend to accept this as opposed to aliens from a distant galaxy.

 

[Lynx]

How to tell when someone is lying to you when you have completed some school and understand physics.
The article says: Project Sigma, started in 1954, used a binary computer language sent along radio signals into space to make contact with alien life.
Just five years after the interstellar connection, an official from the US Air Force met the extraterrestrials who received these messages.

Answer: The speed of light is the fastest speed known in the universe.
It takes light about 5 years to come from our nearest star which is Alpha Centauri.
How can the speed of sound travel faster than light (assuming it was pointed at Alpha Centauri, which it wasn't), for these "beings" to come here and have a regular office meeting to do a Power Point presentation?
NEXT!


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Radio may carry analog audio information, but it doesn't travel as slow as sound.

I'm not saying I believe in aliens. I'm just saying this is not something that can be used to disprove anything.

Radio waves are limited to the speed of light though, so and only 5 years it would have to be a very close neighboring star. There's not many to choose from. And this is assuming one of those very few stars is actually inhabited.

 

[SirSolaScriptura]

If you read Ezekiel Chapter One, the arrival of the LORD with the Cherubim, the Wheels with Eyes and etc, is very UFO looking. So my theory is usually its something supernatural manifesting in our third dimensional space, wither from the Lord's Side or the Enemy's Side.

 

[Eli1]

Radio may carry analog audio information, but it doesn't travel as slow as sound.

I'm not saying I believe in aliens. I'm just saying this is not something that can be used to disprove anything.

Radio waves are limited to the speed of light though, so and only 5 years it would have to be a very close neighboring star. There's not many to choose from. And this is assuming one of those very few stars is actually inhabited.

Hold on a second. Let's discuss this over a coffee or whatever drink you prefer.
How is the speed of sound equal to that of light? Light is a photon. Sound is a wave.
The argument dies on this point alone.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

What do UFOs mean to you?

Nothing.

 

[Lynx]

Hold on a second. Let's discuss this over a coffee or whatever drink you prefer.
How is the speed of sound equal to that of light? Light is a photon. Sound is a wave.
The argument dies on this point alone.

Radio waves don't travel at the speed of sound. They travel at the speed of light.

If they travel at the speed of sound they would be very impractical for communication over any consequential distance.

 

[Lynx]

Hold on a second. Let's discuss this over a coffee or whatever drink you prefer.
How is the speed of sound equal to that of light? Light is a photon. Sound is a wave.
The argument dies on this point alone.

Also light is not particles. Photons have some properties of particles and some properties of waves. Actually they get more complicated the more you investigate them.

So yes, it is possible for waves to travel at the speed of light. Not sound waves, specifically, but definitely radio waves can go that fast.

 

[SirSolaScriptura]

I am curious about the message or response NASA has that is from like 160 Thousand lightyears away, the space ships at the bottom of the ocean (reminds me of the movie The Abyss).

 

[Eli1]

Radio waves don't travel at the speed of sound. They travel at the speed of light.

If they travel at the speed of sound they would be very impractical for communication over any consequential distance.

Also light is not particles. Photons have some properties of particles and some properties of waves. Actually they get more complicated the more you investigate them.

So yes, it is possible for waves to travel at the speed of light. Not sound waves, specifically, but definitely radio waves can go that fast.

Okay, now we're getting to the details where both you and i will need to show some sources.
Why does a command sent to the rover on Mars take over 25 minutes if it's a radio wave but the light from the Sun takes 8 minutes to arrive here?
Can you explain that?

And yes, i agree with you that the fundamental blocks of the Universe are waves as shown in the double slit experiment and yes i agree with you that this signal sent in space is making an assumption that we send it to our nearest star (alpha centauri) and yes i agree with you that we are making an assumption that there is alien life there, and yes i agree with you that it's a big assumption for these beings to come here in exactly 5 years after they received the signal which means that they have mastered a travel FASTER than light which is the LAST BIG MASSIVE assumption.

But let's just talk about the TYPE of the radio wave for a minute.

 

[Magenta]

Hold on a second. Let's discuss this over a coffee or whatever drink you prefer.
How is the speed of sound equal to that of light? Light is a photon. Sound is a wave.
The argument dies on this point alone.

I thought it was more or less common knowledge that light exhibits both particle-like and wave-like behaviours.

 

[SirSolaScriptura]

Okay, now we're getting to the details where both you and i will need to show some sources.
Why does a command sent to the rover on Mars take over 25 minutes if it's a radio wave but the light from the Sun takes 8 minutes to arrive here?
Can you explain that?

And yes, i agree with you that the fundamental blocks of the Universe are waves as shown in the double slit experiment and yes i agree with you that this signal sent in space is making an assumption that we send it to our nearest star (alpha centauri) and yes i agree with you that we are making an assumption that there is alien life there, and yes i agree with you that it's a big assumption for these beings to come here in exactly 5 years after they received the signal which means that they have mastered a travel FASTER than light which is the LAST BIG MASSIVE assumption.

But let's just talk about the TYPE of the radio wave for a minute.

I saw that on Mars it looks like a Facehugger is in the rock.. Elon Musk's zeal to get to Mars reminds me of Peter Weyland.. I fear we will find the Xenomorph.. that the Alien movies will prove prophetic.

 

[Lynx]

Okay, now we're getting to the details where both you and i will need to show some sources.
Why does a command sent to the rover on Mars take over 25 minutes if it's a radio wave but the light from the Sun takes 8 minutes to arrive here?
Can you explain that?

And yes, i agree with you that the fundamental blocks of the Universe are waves as shown in the double slit experiment and yes i agree with you that this signal sent in space is making an assumption that we send it to our nearest star (alpha centauri) and yes i agree with you that we are making an assumption that there is alien life there, and yes i agree with you that it's a big assumption for these beings to come here in exactly 5 years after they received the signal which means that they have mastered a travel FASTER than light which is the LAST BIG MASSIVE assumption.

But let's just talk about the TYPE of the radio wave for a minute.

Sometimes Mars is further from us than the sun, if it happens to be on the other side at the time.

And yes, 5 years from The signal being sent to them showing up at our doorstep does make a pretty big assumption about their method of travel.

 

[Lynx]

Okay, now we're getting to the details where both you and i will need to show some sources.
Why does a command sent to the rover on Mars take over 25 minutes if it's a radio wave but the light from the Sun takes 8 minutes to arrive here?
Can you explain that?

And yes, i agree with you that the fundamental blocks of the Universe are waves as shown in the double slit experiment and yes i agree with you that this signal sent in space is making an assumption that we send it to our nearest star (alpha centauri) and yes i agree with you that we are making an assumption that there is alien life there, and yes i agree with you that it's a big assumption for these beings to come here in exactly 5 years after they received the signal which means that they have mastered a travel FASTER than light which is the LAST BIG MASSIVE assumption.

But let's just talk about the TYPE of the radio wave for a minute.

I will say it again for the record that I personally think it's a load of baloney. But just the fact that radio waves were being used does not in itself prove that it is baloney.

 

[Eli1]

I will say it again for the record that I personally think it's a load of baloney. But just the fact that radio waves were being used does not in itself prove that it is baloney.

I also agree with you that this article is full of baloney. We're just discussing at what step of the baloney we should call it baloney.
Besides all those other assumptions that we both mentioned, i think this whole radio wave communication is the first step of the baloney that caught my eye.
I mean, what kind of radio transmission did they sent? A UHF transmission? And how many obstacles did this transmission run through which would slow it down compared to light?

Then the rest of the baloneys follow.