What do bears mean in the bible?

[dane_g87]

have you ever had a vision dane? This did not come from a false prophet in prophesy to Loveschild this came as a vision to a woman who diligently seeks the Lord and his will. Yes we are to test the spirits, when one professing to be instructed by the Holy Spirit to kick someone in the name of healing does this you would test this spirit and know that it is not of God because it is contrary to the Biblical definition of the Holy Spirit. Now correct me if I'm wrong but can Satan overcome the Holy Spirit within? Loveschild is a holy spirit filled woman.

No I've never had a vision. I never said she was a false prophet, did I? I asked how does she know it's from God. I never made any insinuations or assumptions on her part - I didn't assume she is of God, neither did I assume she is not. The Bible commands us not to ASSUME, period, either way. Therefore I am doing what the Bible commands me to do and that is to "test the spirits." And so I ask, how do you know it is from God? Simply "feeling like" it is from God is not evidence. Whenever visions were given to people in Scripture they were always discerned clearly apart from personal, subjective feelings; they could be discerned by objective criteria. And so this is what I am examining and testing - as the Bible commands me - for objective criteria.

No Satan cannot overcome the Holy Spirit Imoss, but Satan can sure perform miracles and he most certainly can cause visions. Why else would the Bible so emphatically tell us to test the spirits, whether they are from God? Because Satan has the power to counterfeit. What did the Egyptian magicians do when Moses turned his staff into a snake? Did they not do the same exact thing? What does the Bible say about Satan? That he will come with all power, signs and lying wonders? (2 Thessalonians 2:9). Again, I am not saying that she is an Egyptian magician, or Satan, or a false prophet...I'm only using these references to show you that you most certainly cannot assume something is from God just because there is a vision or miracle.

Why is it that you are all so thin skinned? That you shriek when a person begins to examine and test your claims? Does the Bible not command us to test these things? And if it does, then why not obey the commands of Scripture and submit ourselves accordingly to the testing it prescribes?

 

[MaggieMye]

In fairness though, if it is a dream, don't read too much into it. There's a verse that tells you not to think too much of dreams.
You could not be MORE WRONG!! DReams are one of the ways God talks to His children. He speaks in dreams both in the OT and the NT.
There is no verse that tells us not to think too much of our dreams. On the contrary, we should be paying attention to them because God either gives them (full color dreams) or allows them (Muted colored dreams for the purpose of understanding our own hearts...called "soul dreams" or black and white dreams, called False dreams or demonic dreams because it is satan showing his plan for your life.) God allows these dreams so we can know how to PRAY.
Maggie

 

[dane_g87]

In fairness though, if it is a dream, don't read too much into it. There's a verse that tells you not to think too much of dreams.
You could not be MORE WRONG!! DReams are one of the ways God talks to His children. He speaks in dreams both in the OT and the NT.
There is no verse that tells us not to think too much of our dreams. On the contrary, we should be paying attention to them because God either gives them (full color dreams) or allows them (Muted colored dreams for the purpose of understanding our own hearts...called "soul dreams" or black and white dreams, called False dreams or demonic dreams because it is satan showing his plan for your life.) God allows these dreams so we can know how to PRAY.
Maggie

Actually they speak with a degree of truth. Have you not read Scripture? Have you not read the entirety of Scripture, and not just places you've picked and chosen to read?

Hear the word of God on the matter:

(Ecclesiastes 5:7) For in many dreams and in many words there is emptiness. Rather, fear God.

(Jeremiah 23:25-28) God declares, "I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy falsely in My name, saying, 'I had a dream, I had a dream!' How long? Is there anything in the hearts of the prophets who prophesy falsehood, even these prophets of the deception of their own heart, who intend to make My people forget My name by their dreams which they relate to one another, just as their fathers forgot My name because of Baal? The prophet who has a dream may relate his dream, but let him who has My word speak My word in truth. What does straw have in common with grain?" declares the LORD.

(Jeremiah 23:31-32) "Behold, I am against the prophets," declares the LORD, "who use their tongues and declare, 'The Lord declares.' Behold, I am against those who have prophesied false dreams," declares the LORD, "and related them and led My people astray by their falsehoods and reckless boasting; yet I did not send them or command them, nor do they furnish this people the slightest benefit," declares the LORD.

As you can see the Bible clearly speaks about dreaming dreams, and it is not always positive. You can very clearly see the danger and detriment in believing or assuming that just because someone has dreamed, that it has come from God. The Bible has commanded throughout Scripture that the Word of God takes priority and preeminence over "dreams." People are all running around and going frantic over these new dreams people dream up, but when it comes to sitting down and reading/meditating on the word of God for a few hours, they don't want that!

And a well commentary by respected theologian Matthew Henry:
"Many, of old, pretended to know the mind of God by dreams, and were so full of them that they almost made God's people forget his name by their dreams. And many now perplex themselves with their frightful or odd dreams, or with other people's dreams, as if they foreboded this or the other disaster. Those that heed dreams shall have a multitude of them to fill their heads with; but in them all there are various vanities as there are in many words, and the more if we regard them. 'They are but like the idle impertinent chat of children and fools, and therefore never heed them; forget them; instead of repeating them lay no stress upon them, draw no disquieting conclusions from them, but fear God; have an eye to his sovereign dominion, set him before you, keep yourself in his love, and be afraid of offending him, and then you will not disturb yourself with foolish dreams.'" - Matthew Henry

 

[Consumed]

though shalt not judge

 

[imoss]

Actually they speak with a degree of truth. Have you not read Scripture? Have you not read the entirety of Scripture, and not just places you've picked and chosen to read?

Hear the word of God on the matter:

(Ecclesiastes 5:7) For in many dreams and in many words there is emptiness. Rather, fear God.

(Jeremiah 23:25-28) God declares, "I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy falsely in My name, saying, 'I had a dream, I had a dream!' How long? Is there anything in the hearts of the prophets who prophesy falsehood, even these prophets of the deception of their own heart, who intend to make My people forget My name by their dreams which they relate to one another, just as their fathers forgot My name because of Baal? The prophet who has a dream may relate his dream, but let him who has My word speak My word in truth. What does straw have in common with grain?" declares the LORD.

(Jeremiah 23:31-32) "Behold, I am against the prophets," declares the LORD, "who use their tongues and declare, 'The Lord declares.' Behold, I am against those who have prophesied false dreams," declares the LORD, "and related them and led My people astray by their falsehoods and reckless boasting; yet I did not send them or command them, nor do they furnish this people the slightest benefit," declares the LORD.

As you can see the Bible clearly speaks about dreaming dreams, and it is not always positive. You can very clearly see the danger and detriment in believing or assuming that just because someone has dreamed, that it has come from God. The Bible has commanded throughout Scripture that the Word of God takes priority and preeminence over "dreams." People are all running around and going frantic over these new dreams people dream up, but when it comes to sitting down and reading/meditating on the word of God for a few hours, they don't want that!

And a well commentary by respected theologian Matthew Henry:
"Many, of old, pretended to know the mind of God by dreams, and were so full of them that they almost made God's people forget his name by their dreams. And many now perplex themselves with their frightful or odd dreams, or with other people's dreams, as if they foreboded this or the other disaster. Those that heed dreams shall have a multitude of them to fill their heads with; but in them all there are various vanities as there are in many words, and the more if we regard them. 'They are but like the idle impertinent chat of children and fools, and therefore never heed them; forget them; instead of repeating them lay no stress upon them, draw no disquieting conclusions from them, but fear God; have an eye to his sovereign dominion, set him before you, keep yourself in his love, and be afraid of offending him, and then you will not disturb yourself with foolish dreams.'" - Matthew Henry

Thank you for your post & your commentary. Now I give you a task... you who think that loveschild is not biblically grounded in her walk and rely's only on feelings. Go and read loveschilds posts. You will find what I have found, that she is a holy spirit filled, scripture believing believer. She has a reputation for standing up for Biblical truth. Do a little research on the folks you judge b4 you stand in judgement. What you say is valid as I stated b4, we are to test the spirits... you said the dreamers dont want to meditate on the word. That was a wrong assumption about Loveschild and I rebuke you in that. Bless your heart for you truly do stand for Gods word... but also, dont forget that the Lord is not just the big guy in the sky... He is present and he desires a close and meaningful relationship with you, dont close yourself off to that because you dont understand a close one on one relationship with our beautiful Lord.

 

[Consumed]

Thank you for your post & your commentary. Now I give you a task... you who think that loveschild is not biblically grounded in her walk and rely's only on feelings. Go and read loveschilds posts. You will find what I have found, that she is a holy spirit filled, scripture believing believer. She has a reputation for standing up for Biblical truth. Do a little research on the folks you judge b4 you stand in judgement. What you say is valid as I stated b4, we are to test the spirits... you said the dreamers dont want to meditate on the word. That was a wrong assumption about Loveschild and I rebuke you in that. Bless your heart for you truly do stand for Gods word... but also, dont forget that the Lord is not just the big guy in the sky... He is present and he desires a close and meaningful relationship with you, dont close yourself off to that because you dont understand a close one on one relationship with our beautiful Lord.

good post imoss,
open rebuke better than hidden love.
tree of knowledge V tree of life.

 

[Thaddaeus]

Actually they speak with a degree of truth. Have you not read Scripture? Have you not read the entirety of Scripture, and not just places you've picked and chosen to read?

Hear the word of God on the matter:

(Ecclesiastes 5:7) For in many dreams and in many words there is emptiness. Rather, fear God.

(Jeremiah 23:25-28) God declares, "I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy falsely in My name, saying, 'I had a dream, I had a dream!' How long? Is there anything in the hearts of the prophets who prophesy falsehood, even these prophets of the deception of their own heart, who intend to make My people forget My name by their dreams which they relate to one another, just as their fathers forgot My name because of Baal? The prophet who has a dream may relate his dream, but let him who has My word speak My word in truth. What does straw have in common with grain?" declares the LORD.

(Jeremiah 23:31-32) "Behold, I am against the prophets," declares the LORD, "who use their tongues and declare, 'The Lord declares.' Behold, I am against those who have prophesied false dreams," declares the LORD, "and related them and led My people astray by their falsehoods and reckless boasting; yet I did not send them or command them, nor do they furnish this people the slightest benefit," declares the LORD.

As you can see the Bible clearly speaks about dreaming dreams, and it is not always positive. You can very clearly see the danger and detriment in believing or assuming that just because someone has dreamed, that it has come from God. The Bible has commanded throughout Scripture that the Word of God takes priority and preeminence over "dreams." People are all running around and going frantic over these new dreams people dream up, but when it comes to sitting down and reading/meditating on the word of God for a few hours, they don't want that!

And a well commentary by respected theologian Matthew Henry:
"Many, of old, pretended to know the mind of God by dreams, and were so full of them that they almost made God's people forget his name by their dreams. And many now perplex themselves with their frightful or odd dreams, or with other people's dreams, as if they foreboded this or the other disaster. Those that heed dreams shall have a multitude of them to fill their heads with; but in them all there are various vanities as there are in many words, and the more if we regard them. 'They are but like the idle impertinent chat of children and fools, and therefore never heed them; forget them; instead of repeating them lay no stress upon them, draw no disquieting conclusions from them, but fear God; have an eye to his sovereign dominion, set him before you, keep yourself in his love, and be afraid of offending him, and then you will not disturb yourself with foolish dreams.'" - Matthew Henry

have you not read the scriptures, this was not fulfilled at pentecost it was the beginning but at the end or fulfillment of this prophecy the moon turns to blood.

Ac 2:17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:Ac 2:18And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:Ac 2:19And I will show wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

 

[dane_g87]

though shalt not judge

First of all there is no command in Scripture generally forbidding us to judge; if there is, please provide me that passage. Rather, in Matthew 7:1-5, when Jesus says "Do not judge, lest you be judged.." you need to understand that the context of this discourse is involving hypocritical Pharisees who were looking for ways to condemn people in order to make themselves look better. Jesus forbids us from doing this, not from judging in general.

Secondly, while Jesus forbids us to judge in a hypocritical, hateful manner, He does indeed command us to judge with righteous judgment. He charges us to confront one another when we fall into sin. Paul the apostle said it is the duty within the church to exercise judgment amongst fellow believers. The idea of judgment here is of loving correction intended to bring forth repentance. Along with this the Bible commands us to exercise discernment. Jesus expects us to be able to discern between who is a true Christian from an impostor, true ministers from wolves in sheep's clothing. In Revelation Jesus commends a church for examining, exposing, and avoiding people who claimed to be apostles, and found them to be liars. We are commanded in Scripture to test the spirits, to discern between which are from God and which are not. This is what I am doing here, is testing the spirits. When a person makes a claim that they have received a vision, dream, or word from God, they open themselves up to the scrutiny of fellow believers based on the word of God.

Here are the Scriptures that prove I am not making any of this up:
(John 7:24) Jesus said, "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."

(Luke 17:3) Jesus said, "Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him."

(1 Corinthians 5:11-12) Paul said, "But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside [unbelievers]? Do you not judge those who are inside [the body of Christ]?"

(1 Corinthians 2:15) He who is spiritual judges all things

(Matthew 7:15-20) Jesus said, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

(Revelation 2:2) Jesus said, "You cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars."

(1 John 4:1) Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

 

[dane_g87]

Thank you for your post & your commentary. Now I give you a task... you who think that loveschild is not biblically grounded in her walk and rely's only on feelings. Go and read loveschilds posts. You will find what I have found, that she is a holy spirit filled, scripture believing believer. She has a reputation for standing up for Biblical truth. Do a little research on the folks you judge b4 you stand in judgement. What you say is valid as I stated b4, we are to test the spirits... you said the dreamers dont want to meditate on the word. That was a wrong assumption about Loveschild and I rebuke you in that. Bless your heart for you truly do stand for Gods word... but also, dont forget that the Lord is not just the big guy in the sky... He is present and he desires a close and meaningful relationship with you, dont close yourself off to that because you dont understand a close one on one relationship with our beautiful Lord.

Hey Imoss, can you do me some justice here? I never said I thought loveschild was not biblically grounded, nor did I say she relied only on feelings. Why have you accused me of judging her as such?

I never said that ALL dreamers despise the word. I quoted Scripture that said there have been dreamers who have despised the word. Big Difference!

Again, Imoss, I will say this again: I never said I thought loveschild was not biblically sound. Here is what I have done:
1. I have NOT assumed that her vision was from God as claimed because Scripture commands me not to.
2. I have asked her why she thought the things she thought.
3. I have NEVER declared that she was a false prophet

To quote myself from an earlier post:
"I never said she was a false prophet, did I? I asked how does she know it's from God. I never made any insinuations or assumptions on her part - I didn't assume she is of God, neither did I assume she is not...Again, I am not saying that she is an Egyptian magician, or Satan, or a false prophet...I'm only using these references to show you that you most certainly cannot assume something is from God just because there is a vision or miracle.

Friend, please read my posts before YOU yourself make an unnecessary judgment. It would be wise to follow along with the very Scripture in Proverbs you have added as your Signature.

And to Thaddeus, I never said anything regarding prophecies/visions/dreams ending at Pentecost. From where did you get this?

 

[imoss]

hmmm interesting... your posts were in response to her post with respect to her vision. Sorry if I've wrongfully accused you of wrongfully accusing her. This is a pretty specific thread so I would think your post is with respect to the original post. If I was in err I apologise.

 

[loveschild]

Thank you everyone for your replies. IMOSS and Pickles thanks for the kind words. Who ever that was testing the spirits, keep doing so. The Lord says he will defend me and I don't have to reply. Hes a pretty great defender. God bless you all.

 

[Consumed]

First of all there is no command in Scripture generally forbidding us to judge; if there is, please provide me that passage. Rather, in Matthew 7:1-5, when Jesus says "Do not judge, lest you be judged.." you need to understand that the context of this discourse is involving hypocritical Pharisees who were looking for ways to condemn people in order to make themselves look better. Jesus forbids us from doing this, not from judging in general.

Secondly, while Jesus forbids us to judge in a hypocritical, hateful manner, He does indeed command us to judge with righteous judgment. He charges us to confront one another when we fall into sin. Paul the apostle said it is the duty within the church to exercise judgment amongst fellow believers. The idea of judgment here is of loving correction intended to bring forth repentance. Along with this the Bible commands us to exercise discernment. Jesus expects us to be able to discern between who is a true Christian from an impostor, true ministers from wolves in sheep's clothing. In Revelation Jesus commends a church for examining, exposing, and avoiding people who claimed to be apostles, and found them to be liars. We are commanded in Scripture to test the spirits, to discern between which are from God and which are not. This is what I am doing here, is testing the spirits. When a person makes a claim that they have received a vision, dream, or word from God, they open themselves up to the scrutiny of fellow believers based on the word of God.

Here are the Scriptures that prove I am not making any of this up:
(John 7:24) Jesus said, "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."

(Luke 17:3) Jesus said, "Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him."

(1 Corinthians 5:11-12) Paul said, "But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside [unbelievers]? Do you not judge those who are inside [the body of Christ]?"

(1 Corinthians 2:15) He who is spiritual judges all things

(Matthew 7:15-20) Jesus said, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

(Revelation 2:2) Jesus said, "You cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars."

(1 John 4:1) Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

sorry, you missed the point, i felt you were implying that the vision itself our sister had "may be" demonic or an hallucination, another brother pointed out to you that the thread started was not from a new convert which would understandable make one wonder yet not discount even if it were from one. im sure thru prayer our sister received her vision from God, praise be.

with love.

 

[dane_g87]

Thank you everyone for your replies. IMOSS and Pickles thanks for the kind words. Who ever that was testing the spirits, keep doing so. The Lord says he will defend me and I don't have to reply. Hes a pretty great defender. God bless you all.

Loveschild, who do you think you are to alleviate yourself from examination? The true living God has prescribed a specific method of examination that is obligatory to all and any who claim to be speaking in His name. And God does not contradict Himself; therefore if this "god" has told you that you don't have to reply, this "god" isn't the God of Scripture! The God of Scripture declares in His word that you very well must subject yourself and your vision under the scrutiny of fellow believers.

(1 Corinthians 14:20-32) Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge. But if anything is revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent. For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

(1 Corinthians 14:36-37) Did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord.

(1 John 4:1) Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

(1 Thessalonians 5:21) Test all things; hold fast what is good.

If God has ordained that we test all things, and most certainly visions...and you say that you don't have to open yourself up to examination, then either 1) God contradicts Himself, or 2) you are a liar and a false prophet.

 

[imoss]

(1 Corinthians 14:20-32) Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge. But if anything is revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent. For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

Ok, so please enlighten us as to what was revealed to you about Loveschilds vision. So far you've told us biblical truth, now enlighten us as to what the Lord revealed to you who sits by.

 

[dane_g87]

I haven't been revealed anything. That wasn't the issue I was addressing. The issue I'm addressing is before that sentence: let a prophet speak, and the others judge. Test all things. Test the spirits, whether they are from God. Therefore my issue is testing, examining, questioning to see if these claims are so. I have asked her 2 questions already, and she has said she doesn't have to answer anything. She says "God told her" - but God tells all of us very clearly in Scripture that we must test these things. Paul even says "if anyone considers himself a prophet, let him acknowledge that the things I have said concerning this are the commandments of the Lord."

Loveschild, if you refuse to be examined, this in and of itself proves you are not truly of God. If God has truly spoken to you, and these visions indeed are from God, then you will be able to endure any testing in the light of Scripture. There is nothing to fear. The only reason to fear is if there is darkness and deceit.

 

[dane_g87]

Shame on the rest of you who run headlong into automatically assuming that just because someone claims they have a vision it comes from God! You are in direct defiance to the Scriptures that earnestly exhort us to test all things. Instead of obeying the Scriptures and handling these things properly and very carefully, you in effect are saying, "You know God, I know you have explicitly commanded us to test all things, but I don't feel like we need to. I'm going to do things my way."

The Bible says the sin of rebellion and insubordination is just like the sins of witchcraft and worshiping false gods. This is a serious offense. This is the reason there are so many destructive heresies in Christianity, because people are quick to assume everything is from God.

 

[imoss]

dont forget that the Lord is not just the big guy in the sky... He is present and he desires a close and meaningful relationship with you, dont close yourself off to that because you dont understand a close one on one relationship with our beautiful Lord.

 

[Wootie]

I prayed about your vision and God led me to Proverbs 28/warnings & insructions is how it is listed in the subtitle of my Bible. Especially read verse 15 because I think that is what it means. Just a feeling I got but you pray & ask God. Love Ya

 

[dane_g87]

dont forget that the Lord is not just the big guy in the sky... He is present and he desires a close and meaningful relationship with you, dont close yourself off to that because you dont understand a close one on one relationship with our beautiful Lord.

Who says I don't understand a close one on one relationship with God? Are you saying that Loveschild has an intimate relationship with God, and that her vision is from Him, and that I am ignorant of God because I don't understand this? My friend, you must understand something. You cannot have a relationship with God when you do not acknowledge and honor Him, His law, His will, and His worship.

Read Exodus chapter 32. God commanded the people to kill their own brothers, friends, and neighbors because they did not worship God like He commanded them. They worshiped "God" in their own way, by making a golden calf. Then Read Leviticus 10 - Aaron's 2 sons, Nadab and Abihu, took it upon themselves to worship God how they pleased. Guess what happened? God utterly consumed them in His fiery wrath, because they didn't worship God exactly like He prescribed.

Here you have Loveschild who claims to be a prophet with visions from God, and God has explicitly set up and ordained a method to examine and test these kinds of things to make sure they are not false. Loveschild so far has refused to acknowledge this biblical method and in so doing has shown herself to despise God and His worship.

(Exodus 32:27-28) Thus says the LORD God of Israel: "Let every man put his sword on his side, and go in and out from entrance to entrance throughout the camp, and let every man kill his brother, every man his companion, and every man his neighbor." So the sons of Levi did according to the word of Moses. And about three thousand men of the people fell that day."

(Leviticus 10:1-3) Then Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, each took his censer and put fire in it, put incense on it, and offered profane fire before the LORD, which He had not commanded them. So fire went out from the LORD and devoured them, and they died before the LORD. And Moses said to Aaron, "This is what the LORD spoke, saying: ‘By those who come near Me I must be regarded as holy; and before all the people I must be glorified.’"

 

[1still_waters]

Hey guys i feel like you guys are getting near the place of almost putting loveschild under the microscope here.If this is heading in that direction, please stop it here. Thanks.