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What does 'in like manner' mean in Acts 1:11
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Yeah, just go listen to Hillsong's Hosanna, first line of the lyrics. The answer you seek lies within.
Just a suggestion: The first thing I do to try to understand any portion of the Word of God . . . is to turn to the Word of God through different translations. I like to use the Blue Letter Bible.
Bible Search and Study Tools - Blue Letter Bible
By plugging in a certain Scripture, it is easy to go from one translation to another within a matter of seconds. My belief is that these "scholars" probably understand the Word of God better than I do, so it is a good idea to trust them and the manner in which they translate. No, none of them are perfect, but again, they're smarter than most on Biblical translation.
The second the thing I do to understand Scripture is to come here and ask you folks . . . just as you have done.
The LAST thing I do is turn to modern-day commentaries. Anyone can write a commentary, but not anyone can translate original texts. I only turn to commentaries unless I am utterly desperate . . . which is about once per year. I find them to be lacking in Understanding, Knowledge, and Wisdom, for they do not relate Spiritual Circumcision to the text. It's as if Spiritual Circumcision of Christ is NOT the focus of our Faith . . . the Faith of Abraham.
So now you are seeing a " not in like manner" of the postrib doctrine?
.....and do not realize it?
....and at the end of the day, JESUS ON A HORSE, with his postrib war army on millions of horses, blackening the sky, killing inhabitabts of earth, and returning to a destroyed planet , populated by a remnant of satan worshippers sporting , satans symbol in their foreheads.....
Completely destroys a picture of a solo Jesus, ascending in the privacy of his remnant bride.
Uh....another postrib rapture blinder.
A bad one!
SMH
What does the bible say about "like manner"?
Is it in the context of Jesus ascension , solo, in a setting of only his remnant, with EVERYBODY in normal economy of buying and selling?
Did the population have an antichrist and a mark in their foreheads?
Pretrib rapture.
Big time.
IOW, The postrib rapture doctrine rips any hope of Jesus returning in " like manner" of acts one.
It should read in the postrib workbook "even though it says 'like manner' ...it was angels speaking and they were obviously mistaken."
That's about all a postribberadherent can say.
It is a no brainer how a little phrase, " like manner" ,DESTROYS SOME DOCTRINE inspired by church Fathers that thought they were in the gt.
" like manner"
So powerful that the Holy Spirit cut false doctrine to the bone with 2 words.
Game
Set
Match.
Jesus returns in like manner. Since He left in a cloud then in like manner is returning in a cloud. Turns out there are several verses of Jesus returning in/with clouds.
Matthew 24:29-31 says Jesus returns post-trib on the clouds of heaven. This is very easy to understand and digest theology. Yes it does debunk the pre-trib rapture as well.
Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
Postrib adherents.
it says "like manner",in acts 1
Said it yesterday...will say it the exact same through eternity.
"Like manner" mirrors pretrib rapture.
postrib rapture model is OPPOSITE "like manner"
it says "like manner",in acts 1
Said it yesterday...will say it the exact same through eternity.
"Like manner" mirrors pretrib rapture.
postrib rapture model is OPPOSITE "like manner"
UH, yep.
Jesus returns in "like manner" ,for his bride.
Nothing there,in acts1 , resembling the war killer army of rev 19.
You got a tough road trying to merge the two.
Jesus ascended to heaven on a cloud in Acts 1:9; In like manner would be returning on a cloud. Matthew 24:29-31 says Jesus returns on the clouds post-trib. That means you’ll be preaching a false doctrine for eternity, but if you think you’ll be spouting that in heaven I believe you’re in for a rude awakening.
All of the false doctrines people hold, I believe, will eventually get corrected by God, whether in this life or the next. However, I see no evidence anyone will be a mindless automaton. If you continue in your stubborn rebellion even after coming to the knowledge of the truth by God then I don’t know what happens to be honest, but whatever it is you will lose.
People will not be allowed to divide the church theologically in the New Heavens and New Earth like we see on this message board and the world of church denominations.
There is one truth, but apparently we all have yet to find it. We will all find the singular truth in heaven when our one High Priest, Jesus, answers all of our questions and clarifies everything.
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my opinion
is that they were saying just as you have saw him go up visibly he will return visibly
I was never talking about the rapture you most likely saw this scripture in one of my posts there and wanted to debate the whole “pre trib rapture “ idea it wasn’t ever what I was talking about
“But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.”
Mark 13:24-27
I was talking about his return bekng visable like his ascention was. Your debating the wrong subject and looking at what I was saying about a different one
the pre trib rapture is debated a lot here I mostly avoid it now days because everyone is dug in on That subject and it leads to arguing every time
to be clear I was talking about the op my opinion is that this
“And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”
Acts 1:9-11 KJV
is saying believers will see him when he returns just like they saw him taken up. I was never talking about a rapture ore or post trib. Just the fact that he will be seen visibly when he returns , like he was when taken up
“they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. “
and he will appear in our sight when he returns with the clouds
“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”
Revelation 1:7 KJV
pretty simple what I was saying had nothing to do with the timing of the “rapture “ it seems your trying to make it about that though
onyou are talking about the rapture I wasn’t lol I was answering the op asking what it meant “He would return “in like manner as they saw him go up “
my opinion
is that they were saying just as you have saw him go up visibly he will return visibly
I was never talking about the rapture you most likely saw this scripture in one of my posts there and wanted to debate the whole “pre trib rapture “ idea it wasn’t ever what I was talking about
“But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.”
Mark 13:24-27
I was talking about his return bekng visable like his ascention was. Your debating the wrong subject and looking at what I was saying about a different one
the pre trib rapture is debated a lot here I mostly avoid it now days because everyone is dug in on That subject and it leads to arguing every time
to be clear I was talking about the op my opinion is that this
“And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”
Acts 1:9-11 KJV
is saying believers will see him when he returns just like they saw him taken up. I was never talking about a rapture ore or post trib. Just the fact that he will be seen visibly when he returns , like he was when taken up
“they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. “
and he will appear in our sight when he returns with the clouds
“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”
Revelation 1:7 KJV
pretty simple what I was saying had nothing to do with the timing of the “rapture “ it seems your trying to make it about that though
Ye
ah I was never talking about a rapture is my point not really interested in the same argument of the “raptures” timing
They watched as he ascended until he was out of their sight. They kept gazing up into heaven until the angels told them this.
So, is it probable that Jesus will descend from the clouds and people will watch as he descends? Is it possible that His appearing in the clouds in his glory and the glory of the Father with his holy angels will be a prolonged visible manifestation?
I think so. In like manner as they watched him go up, he will come in the clouds in a process that takes enough time for people to gaze up into heaven and observe it.
So, is it probable that Jesus will descend from the clouds and people will watch as he descends? Is it possible that His appearing in the clouds in his glory and the glory of the Father with his holy angels will be a prolonged visible manifestation?
I think so. In like manner as they watched him go up, he will come in the clouds in a process that takes enough time for people to gaze up into heaven and observe it.
Amen it’s what the law and prophets foretold he would Gino to heaven in the clouds and receive his eternal kingdom
“I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.”
Daniel 7:13-14
Heaven received him until the time of restoration of the earth comes
“But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.”
Acts 3:18-21 KJV
When the time of the New Testament is fulfilled after this happens
“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
Matthew 24:14 KJV
this will Happen in reverse
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”
Matthew 24:29-30 KJV
Just as he went up into the clouds as prophecy foretold , he will return in the clouds as he and the apostles foretold
