What does the Bible teach about the Trinity?

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fredjames

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fredjames said:
cyber_truth said:
The Bible does not teach Trinity God, but only One God equivalent to One Lord or One Spirit, even the Bible only tell us the One Person of GOD!

The origin of Trinity came from the early false christians. If we search deeply the true history, the Council of Nicea that formulated Trinity doctrine were only attended by false christians who collaborate with the Emperor of Rome, even the christian bishop of Rome during that time did not attend the said Council. Same Council that formulated a laws of hatred against the Jews. Only false Christians who heed the call of Emperor Constantine for reconciliation by an order of his Edict of Milan, while the true Christians were continue hiding together with the Christian Jews who were baptized in Jesus name. Trinity doctrine cannot be trusted, formulated by false christians go in hand as anti-semitism since from the past.
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Sorry to say again with all due respect, i accept there is only one GOD but in the New Testament, testimony testifies that three names mentioned and in action and in one formation of visible and invisible, in the fullness and likeness of that one.

No one nor anything can separate them, as Biblically written who are in unified function, in communion 'united' with the true church, the body of CHRIST.

Example, you disagree and i agree in the sharing of what i have learned and witnessed in the Holy Bible, by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, my received anointing, the only entrusted Teacher placed in every called believers, against those who are misleading.

This shows we are not one in 'unity' to a justified unified matter, even though we go by two separate names and structure and color and region.
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It happened that during my studies at school and university, I used looking for one or more real examples of what I learn as definitions, axioms, formulas and theories. I have followed the same process while I have personally analysed Jesus sayings (as they were written on my Arabic Gospel, mainly for my personal knowledge).
As we know, Jesus was clear in presenting us the updated image of God which is no more about one being as it was the case in Judaism (and later in its Arabic version called Islam). But I agree with you that Jesus didn’t mention the word ‘Trinity’ though He used referring to it clearly as He said (Matthew 28:19):
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost”.
I mean, the word 'Trinity' could be seen as a short for "The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit".
It wasn’t hard for me to find a real example of ‘Trinity’ that exists even on earth. It is simply about the Spirit of True Love. If this Spirit is accepted mutually by two independent persons they would look to any 'outsider' as if they were ONE ENTITY having ONE WILL and ONE POWER. And it happens that in this life, such a solid union could be better referred to the spiritual relationship between a loving father and his mature son. On the other hand, the word 'son', in almost all languages, could mean “Coming From” or “Of the Same Nature”; like saying “son of the city” or “son of the Devil”.
But truth be said, as a person cannot see clearly the light and its colors without eyes, the Divine Spirit of Love, the Holy Ghost, cannot be perceived without having a human living soul besides the human living flesh. This is why Jesus used saying “Whoever has ears will hear”.
Anyway, it is always my pleasure hearing (and even learning from) other’s experiences.
 
Thank you beloved Kerim for your humble and in humility replies. May the Good GOD, the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you with HIS kindness and peace.

'Come and learn about the Kingdom of GOD like a child' and i am encouraged to see that GOD has placed this in you for CHRIST by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT.

Hearing and learning from other's experience, let me encourage you to be careful, as Apostle John said in his first letter (1John2;26-27);

"I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. But the anointing that you received from HIM abides in you and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as HIS anointing teaches you everything and is true and is no lie-just as it has taught you, abide in HIM."

(2Timothy3;16,17)

"All Scripture is breathed out by GOD and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction and for training in righteousness, that the man of GOD may be competent, equipped for every Good work."

'Then one can distinguish between the spirit of truth and the spirit of error, even in the Body of CHRIST.

JESUS saying to HIS disciples, as HE Himself was betrayed;

"Your worst enemy will be in you own household."

So please do not trust me also. JESUS said to HIS disciples about the Pharisees;

"Learn from them but do not do what they do."
 
Sorry, I didn't get you very well.

Do you mean I shouldn't say "The Father and Jesus (who took a flesh and came to us to update, once for all, the ancient image of God) are unified by the Holy Spirit (the Divine Spirit of Love that we may also accept in our human living soul)"?

I ask you this because 40 years ago, I was banned after I taught this image of God, as revealed by Jesus Christ, in a Sunday class (Catechism).
Since then, I lived the unconditional love towards all others, friends and enemies, also good and bad people. Otherwise, I can't live the real peace and joy I have now despite all troubles of life I have to face daily.

After all, being a son implies living the way of the father as Jesus says (Matthew 5:45):
"That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust"
 
Please forgive me if i have made my given sharing hard for you. i am only called to serve as an aid to your words confessed as Truth witnessing. i am for you as a servant and not against you nor above you. i will be accountable to JESUS who loves you. This will be a lesson of JESUS to everyone who are called in service for the Kingdom. You are not single out in this matter but we are all included. We are all accountable for our mess ups and mistakes. Since the gifts of the HOLY SPIRIT is distributed, we are able to help on another and learn from one another based on the Scripture, as how initially Scripture have been taught by the anointing in us as the Teacher in all believers. So that when we speak plainly without quotes, believers understand that they are written and they have witnessed them by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT.

'took a flesh' is our words but 'took on flesh' is Scripture quote.

'Update' is our understanding that we already know something and we are just 'updated'.

Scripturally. we have become a new creation, an emptied new vessel where we are built from the beginning and up, by JESUS of Nazareth in the New Covenant.

The believers in the Holy Bible had peace and joy when they were persecuted for righteousness sake, for they knew what they were facing was the ticket to home sweet JESUS home (Heaven). For they remembered by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, what JESUS said;

"Blessed are those who are treated badly for righteous sake."

"People will insult you, mistreated you and tell all kind of evil lies about you because of me. Be joy and excited, for you will have a great reward in Heaven. They did these very same things to the Prophets who lived long ago."

So let us also consider having peace and joy being neutral with the world and live in the comfort zone and Scripturally it is justified as lukewarm believers.

There are people who go through Tribulation for doing wrong and there are people who go through Tribulation for doing right. One is in carnality and the other in spirituality.

It is written in the book of Hebrews chapter 12 that;

"When GOD corrects you, do not be discouraged and when GOD chastise you. do not take light of it."
 
You did nothing wrong to me. Being sincere is one of the best virtues to be shared.

In brief, it happens that Jesus helped me simplify my understanding of life.

I guess you heard Him say (Matthew 22:40):
"On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

Do you think I should ignore his very clear follow-up and look elsewhere for the Truth... from sayings not of Jesus in person?

Thank you.
 
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