WHAT does The music yoy listen to do for you ? Should we 'sacrifice' music CHOICE ?

[Nautilus]

I meant the bands on my original list, not the one to prove the 90s didnt actually suck haha

 

[GreenNnice]

I meant the bands on my original list, not the one to prove the 90s didnt actually suck haha

Oh.

Yeah, that music is foreign to me, except Shelton's 'Honeybee,' I heard on the Voice. So, anyway, I am just saying to have your life go after God and I , even when watching The Voice, watch it because I like to see humans achieve and sure love it like on American idol one gal sang 'Amazing Grace.' Forget her name, but that was spectacular.

I in 97 was really getting into 'the one headlight,' '3 a.m.,', 'closing time,' 'i get no doubt,' music, make no mistake, I LOVED 'walking on the sun' by SPumpkins, and, was however very strong into God as he,had me a job then where a lot of money was in my hands and I was challenged by Satan to take like had done in past and never did, that was a huge battle and I let the Lord handle it. so, I was mostly listening to secular top 40 then but that all changed soonafter, just took new job and it really put me into God's hands. They say God works best in our life in our weakness and I became very dependent on God in this time. Listening to Spirit 105.3 fm made all the pain of my work, and, really my financially falling apart life be okay. God is so good. Naut, we are to just follow Him, He can certainly USE secular music to reach others so you listening to it now and finding meat much more in it than Christian top40 may very well how you reach others (be a youth pastor?, Bible teacher?) in the future
The £ord leads

 

[Liamson]

Music is a way to express something, I think it touches nerves.

I really only listen to things that have a deeper meaning, which surprisingly a lot of Christian music doesn't. Rich Mullins was an example of someone who wrote with a lot of depth and passion. Writers like him were are and always will be rare. He was REAL about everything which few people seem to be.

I like songs about commitment, love, real beauty, and things that we all deal with.

My favorite artist of all time is NENA <something everyone who knows me, should know. But not for 99 luftballons, rather ALL her other stuff, which musically can be quite terrible but, lyrically is far from it. She is also an ENFP.

"You might give me your hand
You might give me a kiss
You might know a secret
But you don't know what love is

You might bare your muscles
You might take off your clothes
You might open your eyes but
You never open up your soul

You fall into passion
You fall into lust
You fall into desire
But you never fall in love"

Also I happen to think that the 90's was the golden age of Christian music. Everyone knows and loves D.C. Talk. There was no Chris Tomlin on the scene. No whining. No repetitive lyrics. No Hillsong style mass crowd control worship leader nonsense. "Lets sing that last verse six more times, then slower and then acoustically and then acappella. Why, because I'm the worship leader and I think Jesus likes it when we do that."

There is a reason they played Shout to the Lord on American Idol and not 'Indescribable'

 

[rauleetoe]

Well when christian artists step up and start making music I enjoy, ill probably listen to it. But there really aren't many good options for my styles of music. I mean the number of christian groups i can say ive enjoyed are easy counted on one hand... Skillet, For Today, We Came as Romans...and thats about it.

So if we should be listening to christian music, which i wont say we shouldnt be, you could be absolutely right, but if we should, then they need to apeal to a broader audience.

Have you considered looking at the christian distros and record labels..i found a good one...sounds up your alley..one in particular even has metal...hardcore...'rock' whatever that means...i have the last few days been listening to more christian music..i enjoy even a little bit of the slower simplistic stifd like Forking&country..and found a bythetree cd for a buck at a store new..reminds me at times of embodyment mixed with googoodolls...i like stufd from vnv nation..neurotic fish..older apoptygma beserker..to nile..naeara...soilwork..evergrey..etc..even countrt music..lately its been a little more christian...got a worshipformen cd i bought at borders back when they were in busi.ess thats staying in my car

 

[Ugly]

Since it seems that your first paragraph was likely a response to my post, would you please expand on and/or present supporting points to the bolded statement above? Is this a Biblical concept?

1st, if there is no sign or symptom that the music a person listens to is having any obvious negative effect, how is it your business to tell them they're wrong?

2nd, are you really asking me how its biblical to go to a brother and point out something in their life that is having an obvious negative effect in their life?

 

[Jullianna]

I would absolutely suffocate if I couldn't listen to or express myself through music.

 

[Ritter]

Music is a way to express something, I think it touches nerves.

I really only listen to things that have a deeper meaning, which surprisingly a lot of Christian music doesn't. Rich Mullins was an example of someone who wrote with a lot of depth and passion. Writers like him were are and always will be rare. He was REAL about everything which few people seem to be.

I like songs about commitment, love, real beauty, and things that we all deal with.

My favorite artist of all time is NENA <something everyone who knows me, should know. But not for 99 luftballons, rather ALL her other stuff, which musically can be quite terrible but, lyrically is far from it. She is also an ENFP.

"You might give me your hand
You might give me a kiss
You might know a secret
But you don't know what love is

You might bare your muscles
You might take off your clothes
You might open your eyes but
You never open up your soul

You fall into passion
You fall into lust
You fall into desire
But you never fall in love"

Also I happen to think that the 90's was the golden age of Christian music. Everyone knows and loves D.C. Talk. There was no Chris Tomlin on the scene. No whining. No repetitive lyrics. No Hillsong style mass crowd control worship leader nonsense. "Lets sing that last verse six more times, then slower and then acoustically and then acappella. Why, because I'm the worship leader and I think Jesus likes it when we do that."

There is a reason they played Shout to the Lord on American Idol and not 'Indescribable'

And he hits the nail on the head.

There is a reason why the only Christian music I listen to is 90's newsboys and a hymn here and there.

 

[lil_christian]

Well, here goes.

I don't like a whole lot of secular music because of the sexual content and some of it even has ties to the occult.

Not saying all of it does, though. But a lot. It's hard to filter through everything. So, because of that, I really don't listen to much secular music at all.

To be honest, the ONLY thing that's secular I really listen to or enjoy listening to is....go ahead and laugh...but I like listening to One Direction. For the most part they're clean. And they do have really good voices. They have a lot of talent and I definitely respect them as musicians. But other than that, these are the things I listen to:

Leeland

Building429

Sidewalk Prophets

Tenth Avenue North

Royal Tailor

David Crowder Band

Switchfoot

Big Daddy Weave

Skillet

Sanctus Real

Manafest

Chris August

KJ-52

Though I don't listen to him often, John Reuben

Lecrae (I don't listen to him often, either. but he's good )

and then last but not least, I like some Stellar Kart.


As far as lyrics being "obvious," why's it matter if they are? I think I'd want to be obvious that I'm worshiping God...and simplicity is okay at times. Sometimes we do need to tone it down and just step away from all of that secular stuff. And not just on Sundays...what matters is what we listen to the other 6 days of the week.

This is a verse I think is good to go by when looking at music

Philippians 4:8New American Standard Bible (NASB)

8 Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things.

And just a disclaimer about what I said earlier on secular music, like lyrics and stuff, not trying to tell anyone to stop listening to it. Just giving my reasons why I never did really listen to it lol

 

[simplyme_bekah]

You know honestly since getting really close in my relationship with our God and Jesus I find that I pretty much enjoy k-love the most ( Listen to Contemporary Christian Music online or find a radio station near you - Positive Encouraging K-LOVE ) but I found this new artist that totally blows my mind. she is able to reach into my soul and make something magical happen when I listen to her sing. You cant help but to start twirling around in a circle with your arms held up in the air. Here she is Florence + The Machine - What The Water Gave Me - YouTube I pray she gets saved so that I can hear her sing for my Lord.

 

[Jullianna]

Mark 7:14-15 - Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. Nothing outside a man can make him ‘unclean’ by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him ‘unclean.’”

If the Holy Spirit convicts you of listening to a certain type of music or if the music causes you behave badly or become contentious, moody, perverse or sullen, don’t listen to it.

Phil 4:8 - Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.

If music encourages and edifies you in a noble way, listen to it.

 

[LightningClap0002]

1st, if there is no sign or symptom that the music a person listens to is having any obvious negative effect, how is it your business to tell them they're wrong?

2nd, are you really asking me how its biblical to go to a brother and point out something in their life that is having an obvious negative effect in their life?

I think I'll answer in the reverse order here:
2nd, Sorry, I should have been a little more careful about what I bolded. I was actually asking what lead you to the "1st" item. And if it is a biblical idea.

Mark 7:14-15 - Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. Nothing outside a man can make him ‘unclean’ by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him ‘unclean.’”

If the Holy Spirit convicts you of listening to a certain type of music or if the music causes you behave badly or become contentious, moody, perverse or sullen, don’t listen to it.

Phil 4:8 - Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.

If music encourages and edifies you in a noble way, listen to it.

Not to split hairs, but is noble really the word you wanted? I would agree with you if you substitute "holy" for "noble." Websters defines noble as: possessing outstanding qualities. I guess I just associate the idea of nobility with more of an earthly standard. Even people who are unsaved can be "noble."

Actually, maybe you hit on part of what has been bothering me. It seems to me that if you're judging the quality of your behavior against a truly righteous(holy) standard, then you would need much more than "whether it's enjoyable" or "whether you like it."

When it comes to classical or jazz especially, I think it is much easier for it to be righteous instead of just emotional and earthly. That said, I still think one must consciously choose to make it holy.

I'm not saying that God can't work with secular music to accomplish His will, but He also works with our sin to accomplish His will, but as christians we still should seek to not sin.

Grrrrrrr eeen, why'd you have to make such a truly thought provoking thread? Now I have too many thoughts!

 

[GreenNnice]

You know honestly since getting really close in my relationship with our God and Jesus I find that I pretty much enjoy k-love the most ( Listen to Contemporary Christian Music online or find a radio station near you - Positive Encouraging K-LOVE ) but I found this new artist that totally blows my mind. she is able to reach into my soul and make something magical happen when I listen to her sing. You cant help but to start twirling around in a circle with your arms held up in the air. Here she is Florence + The Machine - What The Water Gave Me - YouTube I pray she gets saved so that I can hear her sing for my Lord.

Is it He or she making you want to grab a baton and start twirling

Scripture refers to water , in fact, through baptism of water, although not saving us, does say, 'He who believes and is baptize will be saved,' per Mark 14:16, but EVERYTHING of our relationship with Christ is developed as we more and more believe in Him and we want to affirm all of what Jesus did on earth to show us how to follow Him. Worry only about you, as, the Lord leads you as His sheep, everything else will surely take care of itself for you. The Lord not only leads, He provides, He takes care of His sheep, as they (all who chose Him, Lord) listen and follow, and, eat of what He wants them to eat
What does Jesus tell Peter to do when Jesus asks Peter, 'Do you love Me?'
Peter: 'You know that I love you.'
Jesus: Feed My sheep.'

This is just all saying that led the Lord , in paraphrased words of 'The Phantom,' be your 'music of your night.' And, day too , of course.

Blessings to you, my Christ peeps.

 

[GreenNnice]

Mark 7:14-15 - Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, &#8220;Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. Nothing outside a man can make him &#8216;unclean&#8217; by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him &#8216;unclean.&#8217;&#8221;

If the Holy Spirit convicts you of listening to a certain type of music or if the music causes you behave badly or become contentious, moody, perverse or sullen, don&#8217;t listen to it.

Phil 4:8 - Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable&#8212;if anything is excellent or praiseworthy&#8212;think about such things.

If music encourages and edifies you in a noble way, listen to it.

Why the word, 'convict,' julieannie, I see nowhere in scripture that explains that the Holy Spirit 'convicts' His sheep. He does chasten, correct, we who are His, scripture,indeed, does say 'God disciplines His own,' but that would be 'scourging' at the very highest degree of disciplining us. No conviction, for God is Love, such a word is just not a part of God's qualities, as, God cannot lie and God never would tempt us to evil and He knows, like your parents know, that finding fault and ALSO making said fault- doer guilty, is not comducive to our God who Loves us.

I hope, and, pray this makes sense, milady, God bless you, and, keep you, and, show you Loving correction when your music choice dishonors/de-glorifies Him .

 

[niceguyJ]

I'm sure that those of us who are musicians feel more strongly about a thread like this.


I mainly listen to Christian artists. However, very few of them could be considered praise/worship type artists. As for some of them and me too, our stance is more like this: God made EVERYTHING, so that's a lot of topics to write about. Those of us who are Christians will write about those things from a Christian perspective typically...but that's not to say it would all fit in this neat label of a "Christian song".
Sure, I want to hear about God. I also want to hear about all other kind of real life things, maybe even humorous things, etc. I don't need all my music to mention the name of Jesus in every song. Songs and music can serve sooo many different purposes.
Some artists are meant to stay just within the walls of the church, others are meant to branch out and even gain a large secular following. Some can manage to do both. God uses different people for different things, and I think it's the same with musicians.

I could probably say more, but I'm going to stop right there. I'm sure some will disagree with me. That's absolutely fine. Don't waste any time trying to convince me to change my views though. Been there and done that with this topic. I know what's right between God and myself.

 

[Jullianna]

I think I'll answer in the reverse order here:
2nd, Sorry, I should have been a little more careful about what I bolded. I was actually asking what lead you to the "1st" item. And if it is a biblical idea.


Not to split hairs, but is noble really the word you wanted? I would agree with you if you substitute "holy" for "noble." Websters defines noble as: possessing outstanding qualities. I guess I just associate the idea of nobility with more of an earthly standard. Even people who are unsaved can be "noble."

Actually, maybe you hit on part of what has been bothering me. It seems to me that if you're judging the quality of your behavior against a truly righteous(holy) standard, then you would need much more than "whether it's enjoyable" or "whether you like it."

When it comes to classical or jazz especially, I think it is much easier for it to be righteous instead of just emotional and earthly. That said, I still think one must consciously choose to make it holy.

I'm not saying that God can't work with secular music to accomplish His will, but He also works with our sin to accomplish His will, but as christians we still should seek to not sin.

Grrrrrrr eeen, why'd you have to make such a truly thought provoking thread? Now I have too many thoughts!

If noble is good enough for scripture, it's good enough for me. It was used in the verse I posted, so I intentionally used it as well.

 

[Jullianna]

Why the word, 'convict,' julieannie, I see nowhere in scripture that explains that the Holy Spirit 'convicts' His sheep. He does chasten, correct, we who are His, scripture,indeed, does say 'God disciplines His own,' but that would be 'scourging' at the very highest degree of disciplining us. No conviction, for God is Love, such a word is just not a part of God's qualities, as, God cannot lie and God never would tempt us to evil and He knows, like your parents know, that finding fault and ALSO making said fault- doer guilty, is not comducive to our God who Loves us.

I hope, and, pray this makes sense, milady, God bless you, and, keep you, and, show you Loving correction when your music choice dishonors/de-glorifies Him .

Thank you, Your Honor. God bless you too.

 

[adekruif]

I'll input my two cents here even though the thread seems to be lined with gold already. Before I got saved I listened to country music all the time, for hours a day on certain days. After I got saved country music totally lost it's appeal to me, and I submerged myself in Christian music....within a week I knew just about every song K-love played. I didn't listen to ANY country music for three months and didn't get back into it for quite a while.

Now I listen to both about the same and truthfully it's pretty awesome! I love cranking the volume when a good song comes on and the songs I rock out to the hardest are generally the Christian ones....

Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that music only affects you in the way that you let it. When i was first saved it was too much to handle, and I got it out of my head. Now that I am a little more ''settled'' I am able to listen to it and not have it affect me as much as it would have then.

To each his own I guess.....

 

[Ritter]

I hope, and, pray this makes sense, milady, God bless you, and, keep you, and, show you Loving correction when your music choice dishonors/de-glorifies Him .

Because I won't.

 

[LightningClap0002]

If noble is good enough for scripture, it's good enough for me. It was used in the verse I posted, so I intentionally used it as well.

It seemed to me that it was a cumulative list, not an either or: It requires nobility AND righteousness, AND truth....etc.

 

[Jullianna]

Again, I'm satisfied with both the scripture and my post as written, but thank you all the same.
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There is something that has been said many ways:
Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes.
Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them.
Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

It has not been so very long ago that a thread regarding music, a thing that can neither save us nor condemn us to hell, caused a great deal of judgmental remarks, lies, name calling and other things that should never be seen or heard among the siblings of Christ. Hopefully, when we see a thread begin to deteriorate, we can have the wisdom to remember the Spirit we are of, take a breath, and let the fruit of the Spirit take over.

May love reign. May wisdom abound.