What exactly is our soul?

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Alright.....

I suggest you go over to X (formerly Twitter) and see the same attitude you keep presenting here being driven home by transgenders. They keep repeating over and over again the same lie that they want everyone to accept about who they are. It's a Satanic ploy.

I am not going to argue with you about this issue any more. It would be like arguing with a biological male that he is not a woman.

You enjoy your belief. Form your own little church.
Enjoy your sense of certainty.

I almost wanted to argue again.
But, no.
It is me who must learn my lesson from this.
Not you.

Have a nice Day.
"God is not willing that any should perish but that all should be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth." Do you seriously think I'm the only believer who sees and speaks this truth? I can assure you that I'm not the only one. And if you choose to bow out of the discussion, fine.

By the way, the real church is not based on any particular doctrine. The church is all those who are born again. If I was leading a fellowship again, I would not be demanding that everyone agree with my every belief.
 
Strewth. You're the one who wants to harmonize without reference to the actual language used. Then you want to say I don't see something Christ said as His mind without any evidence. And then you seem to imply I'm delusional and want to say I might be illogical? Unbelievable. 🤣

I welcome the input of others too but not at the expense of what is actually written just so you can feel good about it.

I cited evidence of being a truthseeker (Gen. 1:26-27, 2:7, Matt. 4:6-7, 2Thes. 2:10-13).
What is yours?
 
I cited evidence of being a truthseeker (Gen. 1:26-27, 2:7, Matt. 4:6-7, 2Thes. 2:10-13).
What is yours?

You do you mate and I'll do me. If language means nothing to you, I can't help that.

ps. The devil quotes scripture. You quoting scripture at me means absolutely nothing especially when you try and use it as a weapon and suggest I'm lost and delusional. Not good form. :(
 
You do you mate and I'll do me. If language means nothing to you, I can't help that.

ps. The devil quotes scripture. You quoting scripture at me means absolutely nothing especially when you try and use it as a weapon and suggest I'm lost and delusional. Not good form. :(

Language means a lot. I begin my Apologetics thread by affirming its importance as follows:

My reason for writing is simply to share my fallible faith with others, hoping they will find what I have learned helpful for understanding ultimate truth. I am grateful to all people—famous philosophers and anonymous acquaintances—who have helped shape my beliefs.

I believe reality is interconnected or unified, so that it is not necessary to worry about where to start exploring, but I will begin by asking the following philosophical question: Is there some truth which is not debatable; which everyone believes at least implicitly and uses as a common point of departure in discussing ultimate reality?

I think there is such axiomatic truth, because in order to study reality it appears that one must (logically or implicitly) begin by assuming at least the reality of the student. Thus, absolute skepticism in philosophy is like absolute zero in physics: it serves as a hypothetical point that is not actually achieved or else nothing would happen (even in ice).

An “ism” affirms some valid part of reality. The truth represented by skepticism is that finite human beings cannot know absolutely, infallibly, perfectly or objectively. I find this truth expressed by the apostle Paul in the NT book of 1Cor. 13:9&12, “We know in part . . . We see but a poor reflection” (as in a fogged mirror).

The element of uncertainty does not prevent would-be skeptics from talking as if knowledge with some degree of confidence were possible the moment they attempt to communicate their doubts. An agnostic has “certain” assumptions at least implicitly: that truth is believable, rational and meaningful, even though unprovable or subjective.

These three affirmations seem to be a priori truth or unavoidable (beginning) beliefs:

1. Truth or reality exists. The classic expression of this belief was by Rene Descartes (d.1650): cogito ergo sum: “I think, therefore I am” (cf. Rodin’s sculpture; thinking is believing). The OT says in Exo. 3:14 that God is “I am” (the essence of existence).

2. (Objective) reality is subjectively known by seekers. David Hume (d. 1776) was a notable proponent of this opinion, and 2Cor. 5:7 expresses this truth by saying, “We live by faith, not by sight” (or proof, cf. 1Cor. 13:9&12 cited previously).

3. Reality is meaningful and communicable or able to be discussed rationally in fellowship with other truthseekers. As Isa. 1:18a (c.735 B.C.) says, “Come now, let us reason together.” Perhaps whoever invented language should be regarded as the founder of this fact, because the discussion of reality uses language as the means, and in order to communicate sufficiently for attaining agreement or unity, it is necessary to have a common language and cultural context. (I hope that as Earthlings using English these needs are met for you and me.)
 
By the way, the real church is not based on any particular doctrine. The church is all those who are born again. If I was leading a fellowship again, I would not be demanding that everyone agree with my every belief.


And, here is what is to become of that "church" you speak of in a very general and generic way.

1 Corinthian 3:11-15

For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

(That is how we became the Church!)

If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw,
their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light.

Gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw? Pertains to what believers will choose for - either false doctrine or sound doctrine!

It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work.
If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up,
the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping
through the flames.


You are finding gold, silver, and precious stones as a hindrance. As a negative, when you want us all to get along with compromised thinking just to get along.
It don't work that way!

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace,
but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother,
and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his
own household.
Matthew 10:34-36

That is why we are arguing over what constitutes the Truth.
 
And, here is what is to become of that "church" you speak of in a very general and generic way.

1 Corinthian 3:11-15

For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

(That is how we became the Church!)

If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw,
their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light.

Gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw? Pertains to what believers will choose for - either false doctrine or sound doctrine!

It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work.
If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up,
the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping
through the flames.


You are finding gold, silver, and precious stones as a hindrance. As a negative, when you want us all to get along with compromised thinking just to get along.
It don't work that way!

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace,
but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother,
and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his
own household.
Matthew 10:34-36

That is why we are arguing over what constitutes the Truth.
And that attitude is why the church is such a divided mess.

Philippians 3:15
"I press on toward the goal to win the prize of God’s heavenly calling in Christ Jesus. All of us who are mature should embrace this point of view. And if you think differently about some issue, God will reveal this to you as well. Nevertheless, we must live up to what we have already attained.…"

Ephesians 4:13
"......until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God, as we mature to the full measure of the stature of Christ."

If believers are not willing to admit that they don't know everything, they will not seek the truth and will stay ignorant. No one starts out knowing much at all. That's why God places teachers in the church. That's why we have the Bible.

I attend an Anglican church. I do not agree with some of their doctrines. I reject the idea of baby sprinkling. It's not baptism. Because the people are humble and the pastor genuinely loves Jesus, I can overlook what I disagree with. He is also happy to baptise believers by immersion.

I like to listen to the late Derek Prince. He was an amazing man, full of life, a great teacher and with healing and deliverance gifts. I don't agree with everything that he said either. We will compare notes when we meet in heaven.

If you demand that a church consists only of those who agree with you completely, you will have a congregation of one.​
 
You do you mate and I'll do me. If language means nothing to you, I can't help that.

ps. The devil quotes scripture. You quoting scripture at me means absolutely nothing especially when you try and use it as a weapon and suggest I'm lost and delusional. Not good form. :(
For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your Souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul." This precise concept is also repeated just a few verses later in Leviticus 17:14, which says, "For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof..
At least the Earth oypen Up to Recieve Jesus Blood
 
And that attitude is why the church is such a divided mess.

Philippians 3:15
"I press on toward the goal to win the prize of God’s heavenly calling in Christ Jesus. All of us who are mature should embrace this point of view. And if you think differently about some issue, God will reveal this to you as well. Nevertheless, we must live up to what we have already attained.…"

Ephesians 4:13
"......until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God, as we mature to the full measure of the stature of Christ."

If believers are not willing to admit that they don't know everything, they will not seek the truth and will stay ignorant. No one starts out knowing much at all. That's why God places teachers in the church. That's why we have the Bible.

I attend an Anglican church. I do not agree with some of their doctrines. I reject the idea of baby sprinkling. It's not baptism. Because the people are humble and the pastor genuinely loves Jesus, I can overlook what I disagree with. He is also happy to baptise believers by immersion.

I like to listen to the late Derek Prince. He was an amazing man, full of life, a great teacher and with healing and deliverance gifts. I don't agree with everything that he said either. We will compare notes when we meet in heaven.

If you demand that a church consists only of those who agree with you completely, you will have a congregation of one.​

After we are saved God wants freedom of choice in how we each will decide to walk with God.

If there were no choices?
There would be no rewards.

For all would be the same.


grace and peace ...........