What happens to or where is lake of fire?
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I do want to know, that’s why I asked. I was being sarcastic about the pot stirring. It just seems inevitable in this forum. I think God told me, I was just seeing if He told anyone else. If everyone thinks God is telling them the right answer and we all disagree then either we aren’t all talking to the same God or He really isn’t talking to everyone. Many people choose to read other’s interpretation instead of getting right from the source. I usually try from God first then backcheck in the Bible, then ask His Church. Along the line there is a disconnect usually.
Oh ok, well, personally when someone asks a question, or I do. I ask God, I look in the Bible, and if He wants me to share I will post something. i dont really read what other people have posted except the OP, cos our of respect this is who Im addressing as they started the topic, but if someone else shares the same things God shows me and we agree thats always good. I just give them a thumbs up.
I dont think one person has all the answers but God often confirms in his Word several times certain things so if everyone brings those different parts together it shows that God is really speaking on that topic in scriputre.
What if both have opinions that are diametrically opposed, and they both validate with scripture? Are they both right? Or, are they victims of confirmation bias, and interpret scripture according to preconceptions?
Maybe give an example...as with calvinists and arminists, they both partially right, and part wrong so there must be middle ground between them. They need that missing third scripture I suppose.
The thing is, one shouldnt even ask for opinions here. Ask for scripture first, peoples opinions are purely secondary. If someones goes to the word of God and posts a scripture, it will be right no matter what their own personal opinion or interpretation is on the matter.
Then after finding that scripture, meditate on it, read the passage in context and ask God to show you more if you dont quite understand it.
Dont do it backwards and ask for an opinion and then go look at scripture that fits that opinion. That's just stupid, it would be like 'ive got an opinion that the lake of fire is in the sun' and then look up all the scriptures that say the sun is burning with fire and then say haha scripture validates my opinion.
Anyway..the last question as to what happens to the lake of fire, well, rev 21:1 does state 'and there was no more sea' keep reading and it shows you there is a fountain coming out from the throne of God which has the water of life. All those unbelievers have second death in the lake of fire..they have no access to this. They are outside the holy city.
The sea giving up its dead...is this possibly the dead sea. You might think so..obviously named!!. Look in the OT prophecies esp zecahariah, zephaniah and ezekel that also reveal this vision of the river coming out of the throne of God...it is fresh water, not salt. It goes forth and cleanses everything. There are going to be some earth moving things happening when Jesus returns!
In Genesis have a look at origninal creation, in eden, there were four rivers watering the garden. Later when the flood came, and destroyed everything, the sea level rose a great deal. In fact it was so catstrophic, lands were divided, the earth tilted on its axis, this is why we have seasons.
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Who are you to say don’t do it backwards, you are but a mere man. Who should believe what you say, I rarely pay intention to what others say but I do skim over it.
Does the Bible say the earth tilted on it’s axis and that is why we have seasons, that would be like saying the lake of fire is in the sun, and why ask others about pastors don’t you know already from searching scripture first.
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Though it hasn’t happen yet, it is coming.
Revelation 16:8-9
The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and it was allowed to scorch people with fire. They were scorched by the fierce heat, and they cursed the name of God who had power over these plagues. They did not repent and give him glory.
Revelation 16:8-9
The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and it was allowed to scorch people with fire. They were scorched by the fierce heat, and they cursed the name of God who had power over these plagues. They did not repent and give him glory.
I just read the scriptures, in the Bible.
What other people say about it doesnt matter, what God says does. From there He shows. Am just here to explore those scriptures and ask questions leading to furthers discoveries that God shows us. Dont just take my word for it, GO LOOK IN GODS WORD.
The earth was divided, yep its in the Bible. look it up, everyone ought to be searching scriptures DAILY to see if these things are so. If its not, then why would anyone say it. If its just your opinion and wild guesses and speculations then whats the point, nobodys gonna listen to you cos its just you and what you think. When you have a sure Word from God. Nobody can argue. Arent His thoughts higher than our thoughts?
This is why you must covet earnestly the spiritual gift to prophecy, He will give you the words to say. Scripture will come to you. Lots of people have posted scriptures and we can look them up, we say yes to God. Nobody is trying to argue anything here...why would you, you cant argue with God anyway.
If He says something in His word it will come to pass. If you dont see it right now thats why you need faith because the Bible isnt a book of someones opinions on what God does. Its His inspired Word. Treat it as such.
What other people say about it doesnt matter, what God says does. From there He shows. Am just here to explore those scriptures and ask questions leading to furthers discoveries that God shows us. Dont just take my word for it, GO LOOK IN GODS WORD.
The earth was divided, yep its in the Bible. look it up, everyone ought to be searching scriptures DAILY to see if these things are so. If its not, then why would anyone say it. If its just your opinion and wild guesses and speculations then whats the point, nobodys gonna listen to you cos its just you and what you think. When you have a sure Word from God. Nobody can argue. Arent His thoughts higher than our thoughts?
This is why you must covet earnestly the spiritual gift to prophecy, He will give you the words to say. Scripture will come to you. Lots of people have posted scriptures and we can look them up, we say yes to God. Nobody is trying to argue anything here...why would you, you cant argue with God anyway.
If He says something in His word it will come to pass. If you dont see it right now thats why you need faith because the Bible isnt a book of someones opinions on what God does. Its His inspired Word. Treat it as such.
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Indeed just like saying the flood cause the earth to tilt on its axis and that’s why there are seasons, that is your opinion, so your in the same boat, so are you going to treat it as such?
And by the way posting that you don’t really read what others say isn’t very nice thing to say IMO.
God can and will use people that no one else will listen too, Noah is an example IMO.
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From scripture the seasons where already in place long before the flood.
gen 1:14
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
gen 1:14
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
What we are as new creatures is not what we will be. Flesh and blood will not enter the new order . What kind of flesh we will have is not known. In that way we are to no know one after the flesh, neither male or female Jew nor gentile. Remove all discrimination of the flesh.
Some believe the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God, and completely literal. Some believe it is not translated completely accurate and some things are allegory. An example of this would be the Genesis account of creation. That’s an obvious one but just check out a once saved always saved thread and you will know what I’m talking about.
That’s not what I said. I said before, “God explains the scriptures to me. Then I check and see if He explained it to anyone else like that.” Why are there many debates? Either it’s God’s word and He explains it everyone the same, or not all here are talking to the same God, or maybe the translation isn’t as accurate as it could be. The “Lake of Fire” could easily be “The Lake of Lightening”. Is this explaining an energy force?
OSAS is not validated in scripture so it not an applicable example. Just trying to understand.
What aspect of creation fits the example?