What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?

[bytheblood]

You notably did not answer any of my questions.

In Deuteronomy 30, it forms the basis for the New Covenant by prophesying about a time when the Israelites will return from exile, God will circumcise their hearts, and they will return to obedience to the Torah, which is what Jeremiah 31:33 and Ezekiel 36:26-27 are in regard to. In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting the Mosaic Law in our minds and writing it on our hearts, and in Ezekiel 36:26-27, it involves God taking away our hearts of stone, giving us hearts of flesh, and sending His Spirit to lead us in obedience to the Torah, so those who want nothing to do with following Christ's example of obedience to it also want nothing to with being under the New Covenant. Jesus spent his ministry teaching his followers to obey the Torah by word and by example and the reason why he established the New Covenant was not in order to nullify anything that he spent his ministry teaching or so that we could continue to have the same lawlessness that caused it to be needed in the first place, but rather it still involve following the Torah.

In Hebrews 8:7-9, the fault that God found with the Mosaic Covenant was not with His righteousness or righteous laws, but rather He found fault with the people for not continuing in their covenant, so the reason why the New Covenant was needed was not in order to do way with God's righteousness and righteous laws but to do away with what was hindering us from obeying them. This is why the New Covenant involve God sending us His Son to free us from sin so that we might be free to meet the righteous requirement of the Torah (Romans 8:3-4), God taking away our hearts of stone, giving us hearts of flesh, and sending His Spirit to lead us in obedience to the Torah (Ezekiel 36:26-27), and God putting the Torah in our minds and writing it on our hearts so that we will obey it (Jeremiah 31:33).

Just a question, but are you Jewish?

 

[bytheblood]

It is contradictory for someone to believe in the truth of Psalm 19:7-11 as Scripture while not wanting to follow the Torah.


A Sabbath's day's journey does not refer to a maximum number of steps that someone can take on the Sabbath but to the maximum distance that someone can travel outside of a residential area before they are leaving the city limits, which is 2,000 cubits (Numbers 35:5). Someone is not limited in how much they can walk within a residential area.



In Deuteronomy 17:18, it specifically instructs the king to write a copy of the Torah, so even if I were to do that, then it would not qualify as fulfilling that command because I am not the king, so we do not get to follow all 613 laws.


Love fulfills the law because it is showing a correct understanding of what all of the other laws are essentially about how to do. If someone feels free to commit idolatry because they think that they are only required to obey the command to love God, then they are not fulfilling the command against idolatry, and the same is true for everything else in the Torah. The Bible repeatedly states that the way to love God is by obeying His commandments, so it is impossible to love God instead of obeying His commandments. You can falsely choose to love God in whatever way you see fit or you can choose to truly love God in the way that He wants to be loved.


The way to pick up your cross daily and follow him is not by refusing to follow the example that he set for us to follow.


The only way to acquire a character trait is through faith, but what it means to have a character trait is to be a doer of works that embody that trait, so what it means for someone to be courageous is for them to be a doer of courageous works and what it means for someone to be righteous is for them to be a doer of righteous works in obedience to the Torah (1 John 3:4-7). If you try to abuse 1 Timothy 1:9-10 into saying that being a doer of righteous works is only for the unrighteous in order to justify your freedom to be a doer of unrighteous works, then you thereby become an unrighteous person that the Torah is made for. Seriously, what did those poor verses do you? Christ embodied the righteousness of God through his works by being setting a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to the Torah, so that is also the way that we have the gift of getting can to live when we are made the righteousness of God in him.

I don't know how old you are, but you remind me of Chubby Checker, you do the twist. I didn't try to abuse 1 Tim 1:9-10, I just posted who it says the law is for, so you must be accusing Paul, who spent 3 yrs. getting revelation from Jesus in Arabia, of abusing scripture. As I asked before, show me ONE scripture, in the New Covenant, that a Christian should follow the Mosaic Law, I gave you scripture that says we shouldn't. Much of your posts are convoluted.

 

[Genez]

I believe there may be a different thrust involved here.

Yes, there is the Law of the Lord.

Not to be confused with the Law of Moses.

 

[Freed18]

That verse notably does not support either of your statements.


The way to be unified with the Son of God is by following his example of embodying God's character traits in obedience to the Torah, which is the way to be free from sin.


No, it Moses presented them with a choice between life and death, life and a blessing for obedience to the Torah or death and a curse for disobedience, and instructed to choose life!:

Deuteronomy 30:15-20 “See, I have set before you today life and good, death and evil. 16 If you obey the commandments of the Lord your God that I command you today, by loving the Lord your God, by walking in his ways, and by keeping his commandments and his statutes and his rules, then you shall live and multiply, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to take possession of it. 17 But if your heart turns away, and you will not hear, but are drawn away to worship other gods and serve them, 18 I declare to you today, that you shall surely perish. You shall not live long in the land that you are going over the Jordan to enter and possess. 19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live, 20 loving the Lordyour God, obeying his voice and holding fast to him, for he is your life and length of days, that you may dwell in the land that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.”

It is contradictory to choose think that the way to choose life is by choosing God's Word made flesh and that the way to choose death is by following his example of embodying Gos's Word.


All have sinned an fallen short of the God, so we all fall short of sinless obedience. Repentance is not a license to sin, but its value does mean that we are not required to be sinless. Jesus fulfilled the Torah so that we would know how to correctly obey it, but he did not fulfill is so that we would not need to follow him. The reason why Jesus fulfilled the Torah by loving his neighbor is so that we would love one another as he loved us, but he did not love our neighbor for us so that we don't have to.


God has not commanded anything that is not in accordance with walking in the Spirit, but rather His character traits are the fruits of the Spirit and the purpose of the Torah is to teach us how to embody His character traits, which is why the Spirit has the role of leading us to obey it (Ezekiel 36:26-27). In Romans 8:4-7, Paul contrasted those who walk in the Spirit with those who have minds set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to the Torah. In Galatians 5:16-23, Paul contrasted the desires of the flesh with who desires of the Spirit and everything that he listed as works of the flesh that are against the Spirit are also against the Torah while all of the fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with it. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact likeness of His character (Hebrews 1:3), which he embodied through his works by setting a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in the Spirit/how to walk in obedience to the Torah.

I will continue to walk on the light/God.
Law keeping is for OT Jews.
I am a Gentile and in a better covenant with God.