What if you die before water baptism?
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- Matthew 3:11: "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit"[63]
- Mark 1:8: "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit"[64]
- Luke 3:16: "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit"[65]
- Luke 3:22: "and the Holy Spirit descended upon him in bodily form like a dove."[66]
- Luke 11:13: "how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"[67]
- Luke 24:49: "stay here in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high."[68] (see fulfillment in Acts 2)[69]
- John 1:33: "the one who baptizes with the Holy Spirit."[70]
- Acts 1:4–5: "the Promise of the Father"; "you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit"[71]
- Acts 2:1–4: "All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other languages"[72]
- Acts 2:14–18: "I will pour out my Spirit"[73] (quoting Joel 2:28–29).[74]
- Acts 4:31: "they were all filled with the Holy Spirit"[75]
- Acts 8:14–17: "prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit"; "as yet the Spirit had not yet come upon any of them"; "they received the Holy Spirit"; "the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles' hands"[76]
- Acts 9:17: "Jesus [...] has sent me [...] that you may [...] be filled with the Holy Spirit."[77]
- Acts 10:44–48: "The Holy Spirit fell upon all who heard the word"; "the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out"; "people who have received the Holy Spirit"[78]
- Acts 11:15–16: "the Spirit fell upon them"; "you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit"[79]
- Acts 15:8: "God [...] testified to them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as he did to us"[80]
- Acts 19:1–6: "Did you receive the Holy Spirit [...]?"; "the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied"[81]
- 1 Corinthians 12:13: "For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free"[82]
- Galatians 3:2: "Did you receive the Spirit [...] by believing what you heard?"[83]
- Ephesians 1:13: "marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit"[84]
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Yes. All Christians - those whose hearts have been circumcised - are true Jews. Many of those claiming to be Jews are in fact, uncircumcised in heart.
All Jews had to be physically circumcised. All Christians are to be physically baptised (in water). You don't think that's similar? The bible would differ, as it often talks about circumcision and baptism together, as they are the same thing or at least, part of the same salvation process. Also being born again.
Baptism simply means immersion. There are all kinds of immersion. Immersion in water, immersion in other substances. Immersion in Christ is obviously spiritual immersion (baptism), as we are not physically immersed into Him.
All Jews had to be physically circumcised. All Christians are to be physically baptised (in water). You don't think that's similar? The bible would differ, as it often talks about circumcision and baptism together, as they are the same thing or at least, part of the same salvation process. Also being born again.
Baptism simply means immersion. There are all kinds of immersion. Immersion in water, immersion in other substances. Immersion in Christ is obviously spiritual immersion (baptism), as we are not physically immersed into Him.
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Thanks for the list. Maybe I should start a different thread for this. I'm about out of time but for now I will suggest this. Baptism WITH the HS is a real thing but only happened 2 times. Each time was a special situation. If you do a word search for baptized WITH the HS, and read those verses you will get a picture of what it means and see it only actually happened twice.
As for baptism/ized by or of the HS, I'm not aware of the bible ever telling us baptism of/by the HS.
As for baptism/ized by or of the HS, I'm not aware of the bible ever telling us baptism of/by the HS.
I was thinking in terms of Jesus being baptized, i.e., the change in priesthood from Levitical to Jesus (our high priest).
Which also necessitated a change in the law, as per Scripture .
Which also necessitated a change in the law, as per Scripture .
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yeah this day you mean ?
“But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
but glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:”
Romans 2:5-10 KJV
your right not everyone’s going to receive the same thing someday we should actually hear him now so when this day comes we aren’t telling him our works don’t apply
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
2 Corinthians 5:10-11 KJV
I’m not too sure the mindset “ refuse to hear or do anything God taught us to do just say you’re already saved “ is actually the way to be saved but i suooose everyone needs to decide who to believe
Jesus ? His apostles ? Someone else ? We’re all free to choose that’s the idea of sending this to all creation
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
He gave everyone the same choice
“But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
but glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:”
Romans 2:5-10 KJV
your right not everyone’s going to receive the same thing someday we should actually hear him now so when this day comes we aren’t telling him our works don’t apply
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
2 Corinthians 5:10-11 KJV
I’m not too sure the mindset “ refuse to hear or do anything God taught us to do just say you’re already saved “ is actually the way to be saved but i suooose everyone needs to decide who to believe
Jesus ? His apostles ? Someone else ? We’re all free to choose that’s the idea of sending this to all creation
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
He gave everyone the same choice