What Is Happening in Canada??

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
All over my FB I'm seeing posts about Bill C-9. I'm going to look it up and see what I can find out about it.But does anyone know off hand what it's about??
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It makes it illegal to quote the Bible

Now you know why those who post on this forum from Canada are reluctant to quote the Bible.

Sorry, I don't mean to imply that just because a Christian lives in Canada they would be reluctant in their witness of the Lord.
 
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ZNP said:
It makes it illegal to quote the Bible

Now you know why those who post on this forum from Canada are reluctant to quote the Bible.

Sorry, I don't mean to imply that just because a Christian lives in Canada they would be reluctant in their witness of the Lord.
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Thanks, I have looked into it further. Not like they were already limited on their freedoms, now, slowly, quietly, Canada is becoming a Communist country. All the while HeisHere is screaming about Trump and the US and how they will fall every day. smh
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Thanks, I have looked into it further. Not like they were already limited on their freedoms, now, slowly, quietly, Canada is becoming a Communist country. All the while HeisHere is screaming about Trump and the US and how they will fall every day. smh
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Yes, the day has come when they will no longer tolerate healthy words.
 
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Crickets.

Usually what happens in Canada stays in Canada.

I guess people aren't ashamed of saying what happens in Las Vegas though.
 
I asked AI to summarize the bill from the proper source and give examples of applications to I can understand as I Canadian.

Here's a plain-language summary of the Justice Canada Charter Statement for Bill C-9: An Act to amend the Criminal Code (hate propaganda, hate crime and access to religious or cultural places).

You can read the full Charter Statement here:
Justice Canada – Bill C-9 Charter Statement

Summary of Bill C-9​

Bill C-9 is intended to strengthen Canada's criminal laws against hate-motivated conduct while protecting people's Charter rights, particularly freedom of expression and freedom of religion. The Charter Statement explains how the government believes the proposed law balances these competing interests. (Ministère de la Justice)

The bill proposes four main changes:

  1. New offence: Intimidating people from accessing protected places
    • Makes it a crime to intentionally frighten or intimidate someone to prevent them from entering or using certain places, such as:
      • places of worship
      • schools
      • community centres
      • other specified public facilities
    • The focus is on conduct meant to create fear that interferes with lawful access. (Ministère de la Justice)
  2. New offence: Obstructing access
    • Makes it illegal to intentionally block or physically prevent people from lawfully entering these protected places. (Ministère de la Justice)
  3. New hate crime offence
    • Creates a Criminal Code offence specifically addressing crimes motivated by hatred toward identifiable groups.
    • The goal is to recognize and denounce crimes where hatred is a motivating factor. (Ministère de la Justice)
  4. Prohibiting public display of certain hate or terrorist symbols
    • Creates an offence for publicly displaying specified hate or terrorist symbols when the display amounts to the wilful promotion of hatred against an identifiable group. (Ministère de la Justice)

Charter rights discussed​

The Charter Statement identifies several rights that may be affected:

  • Freedom of religion (section 2(a))
    • The bill seeks to better protect people who want to attend religious services or access religious institutions without intimidation. (Ministère de la Justice)
  • Freedom of expression (section 2(b))
    • Because the bill regulates some forms of speech and symbolic expression (such as displaying hate symbols), it may limit expression.
    • The government argues these limits target only the most harmful forms of expression and are intended to protect vulnerable groups and public safety. (Ministère de la Justice)
  • Freedom of peaceful assembly (section 2(c))
    • The Charter Statement notes that protests remain protected, but conduct that intentionally intimidates or obstructs access to protected places may cross into criminal behaviour. (Ministère de la Justice)

Practical examples​

Here are a few hypothetical examples of how the proposed offences could apply.

Example 1 – Intimidation

  • A group surrounds the entrance to a synagogue and threatens worshippers so they are afraid to enter.
  • This could fall under the new intimidation offence because the conduct is intended to create fear and prevent access.
Example 2 – Blocking access

  • Protesters physically chain themselves across the entrance to a mosque, preventing people from entering for services.
  • The intentional obstruction of lawful access could constitute the new obstruction offence.
Example 3 – Hate-motivated assault

  • Someone assaults a person because they are Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Black, or another protected identifiable group, and the evidence shows hatred motivated the attack.
  • The new hate crime provisions could apply in addition to existing assault charges.
Example 4 – Public display of hate symbols

  • A person publicly displays a prohibited hate symbol in circumstances intended to wilfully promote hatred against an identifiable group.
  • Depending on the facts and the legal requirements, this could constitute the new offence.

What likely would​

The Charter Statement makes clear that the bill is not intended to criminalize lawful expression or peaceful protest merely because it is controversial. For example:

  • peacefully criticizing a religion
  • participating in a lawful demonstration without intimidating or blocking others
  • expressing political opinions that do not meet the legal threshold for hate propaganda
Whether conduct crosses the line into a criminal offence would depend on the specific facts and the elements prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt. (Ministère de la Justice)

Overall, the Charter Statement's position is that Bill C-9 seeks to increase protection against hate-motivated intimidation, obstruction, and violence while preserving Charter-protected freedoms, subject to the limits that the government argues are reasonable and justified under section 1 of the Charter. (Ministère de la Justice)
 
2Christ said:
I asked AI to summarize the bill from the proper source and give examples of applications to I can understand as I Canadian.

Here's a plain-language summary of the Justice Canada Charter Statement for Bill C-9: An Act to amend the Criminal Code (hate propaganda, hate crime and access to religious or cultural places).

You can read the full Charter Statement here:
Justice Canada – Bill C-9 Charter Statement

Summary of Bill C-9​

Bill C-9 is intended to strengthen Canada's criminal laws against hate-motivated conduct while protecting people's Charter rights, particularly freedom of expression and freedom of religion. The Charter Statement explains how the government believes the proposed law balances these competing interests. (Ministère de la Justice)

The bill proposes four main changes:

  1. New offence: Intimidating people from accessing protected places
    • Makes it a crime to intentionally frighten or intimidate someone to prevent them from entering or using certain places, such as:
      • places of worship
      • schools
      • community centres
      • other specified public facilities
    • The focus is on conduct meant to create fear that interferes with lawful access. (Ministère de la Justice)
  2. New offence: Obstructing access
    • Makes it illegal to intentionally block or physically prevent people from lawfully entering these protected places. (Ministère de la Justice)
  3. New hate crime offence
    • Creates a Criminal Code offence specifically addressing crimes motivated by hatred toward identifiable groups.
    • The goal is to recognize and denounce crimes where hatred is a motivating factor. (Ministère de la Justice)
  4. Prohibiting public display of certain hate or terrorist symbols
    • Creates an offence for publicly displaying specified hate or terrorist symbols when the display amounts to the wilful promotion of hatred against an identifiable group. (Ministère de la Justice)

Charter rights discussed​

The Charter Statement identifies several rights that may be affected:

  • Freedom of religion (section 2(a))
    • The bill seeks to better protect people who want to attend religious services or access religious institutions without intimidation. (Ministère de la Justice)
  • Freedom of expression (section 2(b))
    • Because the bill regulates some forms of speech and symbolic expression (such as displaying hate symbols), it may limit expression.
    • The government argues these limits target only the most harmful forms of expression and are intended to protect vulnerable groups and public safety. (Ministère de la Justice)
  • Freedom of peaceful assembly (section 2(c))
    • The Charter Statement notes that protests remain protected, but conduct that intentionally intimidates or obstructs access to protected places may cross into criminal behaviour. (Ministère de la Justice)

Practical examples​

Here are a few hypothetical examples of how the proposed offences could apply.

Example 1 – Intimidation

  • A group surrounds the entrance to a synagogue and threatens worshippers so they are afraid to enter.
  • This could fall under the new intimidation offence because the conduct is intended to create fear and prevent access.
Example 2 – Blocking access

  • Protesters physically chain themselves across the entrance to a mosque, preventing people from entering for services.
  • The intentional obstruction of lawful access could constitute the new obstruction offence.
Example 3 – Hate-motivated assault

  • Someone assaults a person because they are Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Black, or another protected identifiable group, and the evidence shows hatred motivated the attack.
  • The new hate crime provisions could apply in addition to existing assault charges.
Example 4 – Public display of hate symbols

  • A person publicly displays a prohibited hate symbol in circumstances intended to wilfully promote hatred against an identifiable group.
  • Depending on the facts and the legal requirements, this could constitute the new offence.

What likely would​

The Charter Statement makes clear that the bill is not intended to criminalize lawful expression or peaceful protest merely because it is controversial. For example:

  • peacefully criticizing a religion
  • participating in a lawful demonstration without intimidating or blocking others
  • expressing political opinions that do not meet the legal threshold for hate propaganda
Whether conduct crosses the line into a criminal offence would depend on the specific facts and the elements prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt. (Ministère de la Justice)

Overall, the Charter Statement's position is that Bill C-9 seeks to increase protection against hate-motivated intimidation, obstruction, and violence while preserving Charter-protected freedoms, subject to the limits that the government argues are reasonable and justified under section 1 of the Charter. (Ministère de la Justice)
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Interesting....

So are people hating on Canadians now?
A lot of Canadians hating on each other?
Or just hatred in general?
 
Come on people you can do better.

Christians are called to love God, love one another, and even love their enemies.

What part of love is hard to understand?

I mean I try, sometimes its hard, but I can forgive, God helps me forgive.
 
Even if you are persecuted, like many Christians are, doesn't give you the right to HATE on others who don't share your views.
 
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Lanolin said:
Even if you are persecuted, like many Christians are, doesn't give you the right to HATE on others who don't share your views.
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You're adding hate where there is none. This is a free speech discussion of current events in Canada such as new laws, regulations, people sharing their experience, etc. You don't have to participate if you feel it's too "hateful". 🙄
 
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Lanolin said:
Crickets.

Usually what happens in Canada stays in Canada.

I guess people aren't ashamed of saying what happens in Las Vegas though.
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I have always heard the term Vegas not Canada.
Besides I had one pastor say that is a false teaching and he was right, when someone gets aids from a prostitute or they gamble away their house, it does not stay in vegas the effect of the sin follows them home or to the home they gambled away.
 
Lanolin said:
Interesting....

So are people hating on Canadians now?
A lot of Canadians hating on each other?
Or just hatred in general?
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I think it's mostly the muslims who have been harassing the jews at their temples.
People who hold pro palestine rallies on highway over passes distracting drivers and causing accidents with out proper road closure permits or notices.

The people who shoot up jewish temples in downtown Toronto.

I think that is the type of actions that motivated this.
 
watching a ballgame last night and an announcer mentioned the baltimore orioles had a drag queen, maybe tranny not sure, appear for gay day. with the cleveland name change from indians to guardians i guess i shouldnt have been surprised.
 
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DeanM said:
watching a ballgame last night and an announcer mentioned the baltimore orioles had a drag queen, maybe tranny not sure, appear for gay day. with the cleveland name change from indians to guardians i guess i shouldnt have been surprised.
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Drag Queen invited to Baltimore Orioles Pride Night takes a shot at the Trump Administration

www.foxnews.com

Drag Queen invited to Baltimore Orioles Pride Night takes a shot at the Trump Administration

The Orioles invited Heidi N Closet from "RuPaul's Drag Race" to Pride Night at Camden Yards, where the drag queen criticized Trump administration policies.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

Political indoctrination.
 
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