What is saving faith?

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Ariel82 said:
Ariel82 said:
What kind of faith do people actually have?

1. ""that God is; that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him;" and that he is to be sought by glorifying him as God, by giving him thanks for all things, and by a careful practice of moral virtue, of justice, mercy, and truth, toward their fellow creatures. "

2. believes, not only that there is a wise and powerful God, gracious to reward, and just to punish; but also, that Jesus is the Son of God, the Christ, the Saviour of the world. So we find him declaring, in express terms, "I know Thee who Thou art; the Holy One of God" ....God was made manifest in the flesh; that he will "tread all enemies under his feet;" and that "all Scripture was given by inspiration of God."

3. believed on him (Jesus) as to "leave all and follow him;" although they had then power to work miracles, to "heal all manner of sickness, and all manner of disease;" yea, they had then "power and authority over all devils;" and, which is beyond all this, were sent by their Master to "preach the kingdom of God."

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Yet you can believe all of the above and still not have a saving faith.

The Wesley Center Online: Sermon 1 - Salvation By Faith
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Most people have one of the three types listed above. Very few have the saving Faith listed below:

Without saving Faith there is NO ETERNAL SECURITY.


Ariel82 said:
Saving faith is defined as

Christian faith is then, not only an assent to the whole gospel of Christ, but also a full reliance on the blood of Christ; a trust in the merits of his life, death, and resurrection; a recumbency upon him as our atonement and our life, as given for us, and living in us; and, in consequence hereof, a closing with him, and cleaving to him, as our "wisdom, righteousness, sanctification, and redemption," or, in one word, our salvation..

The Wesley Center Online: Sermon 1 - Salvation By Faith

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1. Faith in Jesus, so very unlike the heathen faith listed above.

2. Faith that is in our hearts and not just in our minds contrast that to the demonic faith described above.

3. Faith in Jesus death and resurrection,contrast that to the faith the Apostles had in Jesus before He was nailed to the cross.

Some people don't have a saving faith in Jesus, even though they attend church for years.
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What I was getting to I wanted to know how he thought obedience was produced. As stated above full reliance is the human response.

I wasnt sure if he believes even the full reliance is forced apon by God as some believe.
 
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